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Aboriginal Australians

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Beachwaves127 · 10/01/2024 12:36

I’ve tried learning a bit more about the Aboriginal Australians but I’ve found google quite limited. Wondered if anyone knew the history or had real life experience from Aus.

Particularly keen to understand if Aboriginal Australians live in Aus society, or if many still live in their own society (in the outback?)

My knowledge is limited so I will apologise in advance if any of the above is incorrect.

I like expanding my knowledge so there is no particular reason why I am asking these questions, other than I’ve realised my knowledge is virtually nil

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MaisyAndTallulah · 11/01/2024 20:20

spottygymbag · 11/01/2024 20:17

@MaisyAndTallulah
I do wonder if it's going backwards instead of progressing.
And yo be clear I never said holding full conversations- I was talking about the basics.

It'll be interesting to see what happens. I feel like Trump unleashed the ugly in the world and people now feel entitled to say whatever horrible racist thought pops onto their head. But there is already resistance so we'll see.

MrsTerryPratchett · 11/01/2024 20:22

Hubblebubble · 11/01/2024 17:47

@Ozgirl75 but children are taught minority British languages, Welsh and Gaelic.

This is very specific. Some places, like NZ and the UK have few languages. And so it's easier to integrate into schools. Some places, like Canada and Australia have hundreds of indigenous languages, making it very very difficult to integrate. Yes, everyone should make an effort with the languages near them. I've lived places where you'd have to learn about five to travel in just the local area. Some places are incredibly linguistically diverse.

DrJump · 11/01/2024 20:41

StartupRepair · 11/01/2024 19:41

And yes, modern, urban Australia was built since 1788. We have no buildings older than that. However there is rock art which is 40,000 years old. First Nations people have incredibly ancient spiritual stories and cultural practices embedded in the landscape .

That is incorrect. There are stone houses near Portland in Victoria that predate white settlement.

Boomboomshakeshaketheroom · 11/01/2024 20:54

garlictwist · 11/01/2024 06:16

Wait, so you çan be white and indigenous? How does that work?

Mixed race, and identifying with their indigenous ancestry, but fair skinned. It's not uncommon. The reasons why are outlined above - there has been consensual and non-consensual mixed race relationships over the generations since white settlement. As mentioned upthread, it would be incredibly hypocritical and offensive to deny people the opportunity to identify as First Nations because there's also white people in their family tree.

StartupRepair · 11/01/2024 21:07

@DrJump yes, sorry you are right.

DrJump · 11/01/2024 21:13

StartupRepair · 11/01/2024 21:07

@DrJump yes, sorry you are right.

I get a bit prickly about it because I’ve worked with community down. Lots of other area would have housing too but they were destroyed by settlers.

Other areas along the coast have permanent fish traps which are quite extensive and prove inheritable rights and things.

Neodymium · 11/01/2024 21:27

I work in a school, and we now sing the national anthem first in the local language of our area and then in English. But this is uncommon, I think we are the first school to do it. We recently had a First Nations man come and speak about his mother, who was stolen. 2 men on horses turned up to her community and dragged her and her sister away when she was about 8. Such a heartbreaking story. They were put in residential schools and abused. They were not allowed to speak their language and were beaten if they did.

A great book I’ve read is called fatal shore. It’s a long read but really interesting. The FNP were transient in their territory. They would live and hunt in one location and then move to another, and so on eventually coming back to the first place in a year or so. This allowed the land to regenerate ect. The attitude by the colonisers was that they could just take the land and they could go to somewhere else, because they didn’t have permanent structures.

SirSamVimesCityWatch · 11/01/2024 21:28

Codlingmoths · 10/01/2024 22:19

Dark emu by Bruce Pascoe has been a much lauded book covering some of the issues. It has also been much criticised by aboriginal and Torres Strait islander people, so I would also read the reviews of it to understand the controversy and conflicted topics. It has been strongly recommended by young indigenous Australians interning with us so it is not solely recommended by white Australia, which is an impression you can get from some reviews.

Bruce Pascoe's claim to be aboriginal has been called into question (putting it mildly). Basically, it seems that he's been faking it.

slapdashsusie · 11/01/2024 21:49

There is a fantastic documentary released a few years ago, following a charming 10 year old boy and his family in the NT. It is watchable from the website, and used as a teaching tool in schools here.
https://inmyblooditruns.com/

In My Blood It Runs

In My Blood It Runs is an observational feature documentary following 10-yr-old Arrernte Aboriginal boy Dujuan as he grows up Alice Springs, Australia.

https://inmyblooditruns.com/

Cornishmumofone · 11/01/2024 21:53

My ex-SIL is 1/4 Kalkadoon, but she also has Scottish ancestry. She has very fair skin and ginger hair, but typical aboriginal features. My nephew is similar, but with blonde hair like my brother.

ghislaine · 11/01/2024 22:11

Contact is a fascinating documentary about a group of the Martu people in Western Australia who first encountered white people in 1964.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contact_(2009_film)

Contact (2009 film) - Wikipedia

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contact_(2009_film)

Codlingmoths · 11/01/2024 22:24

SirSamVimesCityWatch · 11/01/2024 21:28

Bruce Pascoe's claim to be aboriginal has been called into question (putting it mildly). Basically, it seems that he's been faking it.

Yes. I wasn’t going to go into the detail, and thought I probably wouldn’t read it. Until the indigenous intern at work strongly recommended it. Then I thought whatever he’s done it’s clearly got insights to offer and who am I to argue against that?

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