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Parents to be asked to solve school attendance crisis

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noblegiraffe · 07/01/2024 11:44

There is an article in the Times about the current school attendance crisis. It cannot be overstated how awful the attendance crisis is. Pupils, particularly disadvantaged pupils, are staying away from school in much larger numbers, and for more days than before covid.

It says that lockdowns broke the contract between parents and schools which said that school attendance was compulsory.

It blames parents for keeping their children home when they have a minor illness or are slightly anxious about school.

It quotes Bridget Phillipson, Shadow Education Secretary as saying "If I were secretary of state, I’d be sending a very clear message to parents that every day at school matters, and that irresponsible parents who don’t care about sending their kids to school are harming other kids’ life chances, not just their own"

(Whereas current Education Secretary Gillian) "Keegan will expand a programme that gives children skipping school an attendance mentor who could drive or walk youngsters from their home to school in the morning or negotiate with head teachers on their behalf. She said: “Persistent absence is a hangover from the pandemic affecting schools around the world. Schools and the government cannot do this alone.

“Families play a big part in attendance and parents have a legal duty to make sure their children are at school. I know it can be hard to get children out of the door, especially when they are feeling a bit anxious or have a mild cough or cold, so we must rebuild the social contract between parents and schools and make sure everyone plays their part.”

While lockdowns are brought up, what is not mentioned is the utter state schools were in between lockdowns and after lockdowns. Children were being supervised in halls rather than being taught due to lack of teachers who were ill (and this is still happening now due to inability to recruit). Lack of teachers meaning that kids get endless cover which can be largely a waste of time. Children who are anxious about attending school are expected to get on with it while teachers who are unable to cope with the poor behaviour of students are signed off with stress. The experience of children in schools during and since covid can be extraordinarily shit.

Attendance is much lower in pupils from disadvantaged backgrounds. Child poverty is not mentioned - I was reading about a child who couldn't attend school because her mother needed to use the one pair of shoes they shared. Other children are needed to look after younger siblings while parents work because they can't afford childcare. How will this be solved by sending a car around?

But we also know that schools in disadvantaged areas are more likely to struggle to hire staff. What is the point in a child attending school when they don't have teachers? How will Keegan and Phillipson argue that one?

This bit is the most worrying:

"A Labour government, Phillipson said, would place more emphasis on absenteeism as part of the Ofsted inspection framework, with schools compelled to produce an annual report on attendance, off-rolling (removing a pupil without using a permanent exclusion) and safeguarding. Schools are required to submit weekly attendance records to the Department for Education but absenteeism does not have its own Ofsted criteria, instead falling under a broader category of “behaviour and attitudes”.
These reports would affect the Ofsted rating given to schools, which would also take into account the progress they have made in shrinking the attainment gap between disadvantaged pupils and their more affluent peers"

Linking an Ofsted grading to attendance will just doom schools in disadvantaged areas to low Ofsted grades at a time when Ofsted had just started to recognise that grading a school based on disadvantage was a bad idea.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/1d7eb40d-c4c4-4dcc-85ea-ad6f62c65b9c?shareToken=6c4b865c0c1b8626f2761a5ad733b608

Bridget Phillipson: Parents must save lockdown’s lost generation

The shadow education secretary takes aim at absenteeism as a poll reveals that one in four parents don’t think their child has to go to school each day

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/1d7eb40d-c4c4-4dcc-85ea-ad6f62c65b9c?shareToken=6c4b865c0c1b8626f2761a5ad733b608

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Quartz2208 · 08/01/2024 10:44

TrashedSofa · 08/01/2024 10:19

Because it's easier to come out with this sort of embarrassingly stupid shit than it is to actually address the underlying factors relating to high absence. Tackling CAMHS underfunding, parental alienation, child poverty and school budgets would require actual effort and resources, so we get this instead.

Exactly.

shutting schools in March 2020 was the only and right decision to make. It doesn’t mean it didn’t cause huge damage. A decision can be right and still cause harm.

the Government made so many mistakes in covid it’s response to them all is it is all fine now.Rather than addressing the fact that even though shutting schools was unavoidable the harm it caused will ripple on for years. And that the approach of its over now let’s all go back to normal also caused damage.

I have a school anxious/school refuses and it’s tough. But every step of the way rather than positive reinforcement of what he has managed to achieve it’s always do better tomorrow which is completely demoralising. Yes full time education is important, yes I want more than anything for him to do this and be able to go to parties and to the park with his friends and have family outings and meals out. But it takes time and painfully incremently slow steps that if pushed could cause a huge step back. Abd I do not want to go back to the day he wanted to die, wanted to destroy everything with a hammer before taking a knife to himself. And if that means mornings only for he to cope for now that so be it. At least he is leaving the house and in school

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 08/01/2024 11:49

I have a DIL who works it CAMhS.

Its not unfortunately just about underfunding.

Thete are 25k vacancies across the country. Which they can’t fill.

MrsHamlet · 08/01/2024 11:51

noblegiraffe · 07/01/2024 22:28

This will sort it.

Those images are crass. I expected nothing less of our government though.

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TrashedSofa · 08/01/2024 11:58

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 08/01/2024 11:49

I have a DIL who works it CAMhS.

Its not unfortunately just about underfunding.

Thete are 25k vacancies across the country. Which they can’t fill.

You're right, but part of the reason the vacancies remain unfilled is that they don't pay enough. I'm not saying adequate wages would solve everything, but there'll be no improvement without them. Same is true of schools. Pay rises aren't enough by themselves, but they're necessary nonetheless.

Jellycatspyjamas · 08/01/2024 12:06

Those images are crass. I expected nothing less of our government though.

When I was in school I remember my mum saying “just walk to the bus stop and if you’re still feeling unwell come home again”, knowing full well that I was feeling a bit under the weather and that by the time I met my friends, got chatting etc I’d be completely fine and would get on with it. She knew me and knew I sometimes just needed a bit of distraction etc to get to school.

That was fine, for me. It’s not an appropriate strategy to base a national campaign on particularly given the social and emotional difficulties young people now face.

porridgeisbae · 08/01/2024 12:30

I'm one of these dreadful parents with a non attender. My child is autistic. They masked very well until year 9 (1 year ago) and then went into autistic burnout. Basically a mental breakdown.

@Lindy2 I'm sure no one is saying a child with a marked disability etc who can't attend school, or their parents, are being lax or anything like that.

Araminta1003 · 08/01/2024 12:38

DC’s cousins are at one of the well known private boarding schools. They have far longer holidays and go on school trips during the last few days of term quite regularly and they still get great grades. It is not necessary to be in school this much if kids are properly streamed and there are enough adults to teach them and look after them pastorally. It is about each child getting enough attention. They need not all be qualified teachers. If you want everyone to work mum and dad then kids need more attention during the day in school, especially in the younger years.
What amazes me most as well is that the boarding school seems to have no problem getting GP appointments from the NHS in their school. As well as the school counsellor. They are fed properly, educated properly, mentally looked after etc and exercised, all at school.
And this well known school is far softer on uniform and discipline than my DC’s school.

greengreengrass25 · 08/01/2024 13:11

Tartantatooes · 08/01/2024 00:10

Bring the school leaving age back down to 16 and let them go to work. 18 is a ridiculous age to be in compulsory education

Yes it is ridiculous

TeenDivided · 08/01/2024 14:07

@Araminta1003 one of the well known private boarding schools

40 years ago I was at one of these. The school day was massively longer, including some lessons on Saturday. All the pupils had had to pass an academic test to be allowed into the school. By definition all or almost all also have to pass a wealth test. They have to have committed informed parents. They will have been selected for not having any form of disruptive SN.

You cannot compare the £££ and triple selective education at a boarding school to a £ funded state comp.

Lindy2 · 08/01/2024 14:11

porridgeisbae · 08/01/2024 12:30

I'm one of these dreadful parents with a non attender. My child is autistic. They masked very well until year 9 (1 year ago) and then went into autistic burnout. Basically a mental breakdown.

@Lindy2 I'm sure no one is saying a child with a marked disability etc who can't attend school, or their parents, are being lax or anything like that.

@porridgeisbae

I wish that was the case. Unfortunately there's a lot of judgement and not a lot of real understanding, even from people who should know better.

greengreengrass25 · 08/01/2024 14:19

TeenDivided · 08/01/2024 14:07

@Araminta1003 one of the well known private boarding schools

40 years ago I was at one of these. The school day was massively longer, including some lessons on Saturday. All the pupils had had to pass an academic test to be allowed into the school. By definition all or almost all also have to pass a wealth test. They have to have committed informed parents. They will have been selected for not having any form of disruptive SN.

You cannot compare the £££ and triple selective education at a boarding school to a £ funded state comp.

I think some did have dyslexia but slipped through the net.

I suspect it was easier to get in in infants and then stay the duration

plumberdrain · 08/01/2024 15:36

Where do you find all the time balancing being a teacher with all the thousands and thousands of long and detailed posts on mumsnet OP?!

plumberdrain · 08/01/2024 15:36

during the school day no less! 😂

plumberdrain · 08/01/2024 15:46

noblegiraffe · 07/01/2024 22:28

This will sort it.

pretty sure, but someone more knowledgeable could confirm, that the DofE mistakenly inserted a comma after “This morning” in this ad?!

Araminta1003 · 08/01/2024 15:58

@TeenDivided - my point is simply that it really is all about having enough funding. Schools have been significantly underfunded in real terms in the last 15 years. They need more staff and teachers across the board and better facilities. Kids need to exercise in a wholesome way and eat a proper lunch. These are basics. If they are not met, the whole thing falls apart. Teenage girls who have just started their periods and cannot easily use the WC - it is traumatising.
Neither Labour or Tories want to put Education or our children first. That is a real problem. Especially now that people are not having enough children anymore. Labour are pretending to care about education by taxing a white elephant.

It is not true that there are no children with SEN at top private schools. Lots of high functioning autistics and ADHD and dyslexics go to these types of school. Many dyslexic children are very intelligent. These schools know how to get them extra time and help. A lot of the top schools have boarding houses for geniuses who are often gifted and on the spectrum.

Sherrystrull · 08/01/2024 15:59

plumberdrain · 08/01/2024 15:36

Where do you find all the time balancing being a teacher with all the thousands and thousands of long and detailed posts on mumsnet OP?!

Plenty of people have jobs and post on mumsnet. What a catty comment.

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 08/01/2024 15:59

greengreengrass25 · 08/01/2024 13:11

Yes it is ridiculous

No it isn’t. Everywhere else has students in education until 18

My Dd wouldn’t go to school. Stopped in year 12. She still wants to do her A levels. And now we have an EHCP to help her.

plumberdrain · 08/01/2024 16:03

Sherrystrull · 08/01/2024 15:59

Plenty of people have jobs and post on mumsnet. What a catty comment.

indeed they do

greengreengrass25 · 08/01/2024 16:20

@ArseInTheCoOpWindow

For the ones who don't want to continue studying

Not for the ones who do

noblegiraffe · 08/01/2024 16:23

plumberdrain · 08/01/2024 15:36

Where do you find all the time balancing being a teacher with all the thousands and thousands of long and detailed posts on mumsnet OP?!

I type really fast and I’m part time. HTH.

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ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 08/01/2024 16:24

greengreengrass25 · 08/01/2024 16:20

@ArseInTheCoOpWindow

For the ones who don't want to continue studying

Not for the ones who do

I was teaching when the leaving age was raised to 18. It was to bring us in line with the rest of the developed world. Most countries leave at 18.

greengreengrass25 · 08/01/2024 16:31

But some of the dc don't want to be there

What's the point in all honesty

SilkFloss · 08/01/2024 16:32

@plumberdrain Have you never come across part-time workers before?
Of course you have but chose instead to try and discredit the OP.

Igmum · 08/01/2024 16:42

That article doesn't mention the disaster of SEN provision. My DD was without a physical school place for 16 months (yes, that is illegal). She only has one now because I'm an educated middle class mum who speaks bureaucracy, got her an EHCP and kicked up one hell of a fuss. For parents who can't or don't do that their kids are simply failed because local authorities don't have the money to fund proper provision. SEN kids are disproportionately represented in those missing school.

plumberdrain · 08/01/2024 16:45

noblegiraffe · 08/01/2024 16:23

I type really fast and I’m part time. HTH.

it does

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