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Parents to be asked to solve school attendance crisis

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noblegiraffe · 07/01/2024 11:44

There is an article in the Times about the current school attendance crisis. It cannot be overstated how awful the attendance crisis is. Pupils, particularly disadvantaged pupils, are staying away from school in much larger numbers, and for more days than before covid.

It says that lockdowns broke the contract between parents and schools which said that school attendance was compulsory.

It blames parents for keeping their children home when they have a minor illness or are slightly anxious about school.

It quotes Bridget Phillipson, Shadow Education Secretary as saying "If I were secretary of state, I’d be sending a very clear message to parents that every day at school matters, and that irresponsible parents who don’t care about sending their kids to school are harming other kids’ life chances, not just their own"

(Whereas current Education Secretary Gillian) "Keegan will expand a programme that gives children skipping school an attendance mentor who could drive or walk youngsters from their home to school in the morning or negotiate with head teachers on their behalf. She said: “Persistent absence is a hangover from the pandemic affecting schools around the world. Schools and the government cannot do this alone.

“Families play a big part in attendance and parents have a legal duty to make sure their children are at school. I know it can be hard to get children out of the door, especially when they are feeling a bit anxious or have a mild cough or cold, so we must rebuild the social contract between parents and schools and make sure everyone plays their part.”

While lockdowns are brought up, what is not mentioned is the utter state schools were in between lockdowns and after lockdowns. Children were being supervised in halls rather than being taught due to lack of teachers who were ill (and this is still happening now due to inability to recruit). Lack of teachers meaning that kids get endless cover which can be largely a waste of time. Children who are anxious about attending school are expected to get on with it while teachers who are unable to cope with the poor behaviour of students are signed off with stress. The experience of children in schools during and since covid can be extraordinarily shit.

Attendance is much lower in pupils from disadvantaged backgrounds. Child poverty is not mentioned - I was reading about a child who couldn't attend school because her mother needed to use the one pair of shoes they shared. Other children are needed to look after younger siblings while parents work because they can't afford childcare. How will this be solved by sending a car around?

But we also know that schools in disadvantaged areas are more likely to struggle to hire staff. What is the point in a child attending school when they don't have teachers? How will Keegan and Phillipson argue that one?

This bit is the most worrying:

"A Labour government, Phillipson said, would place more emphasis on absenteeism as part of the Ofsted inspection framework, with schools compelled to produce an annual report on attendance, off-rolling (removing a pupil without using a permanent exclusion) and safeguarding. Schools are required to submit weekly attendance records to the Department for Education but absenteeism does not have its own Ofsted criteria, instead falling under a broader category of “behaviour and attitudes”.
These reports would affect the Ofsted rating given to schools, which would also take into account the progress they have made in shrinking the attainment gap between disadvantaged pupils and their more affluent peers"

Linking an Ofsted grading to attendance will just doom schools in disadvantaged areas to low Ofsted grades at a time when Ofsted had just started to recognise that grading a school based on disadvantage was a bad idea.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/1d7eb40d-c4c4-4dcc-85ea-ad6f62c65b9c?shareToken=6c4b865c0c1b8626f2761a5ad733b608

Bridget Phillipson: Parents must save lockdown’s lost generation

The shadow education secretary takes aim at absenteeism as a poll reveals that one in four parents don’t think their child has to go to school each day

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/1d7eb40d-c4c4-4dcc-85ea-ad6f62c65b9c?shareToken=6c4b865c0c1b8626f2761a5ad733b608

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Epidote · 08/01/2024 08:01

@noblegiraffe You are not allowed to strike about working conditions? I thought that was the main point of a strike to change them for better. Maybe is different here.

OneInEight · 08/01/2024 08:04

The only way you will improve school attendance is to put more money into schools - more teachers, smaller classes, smaller schools, up-to-date books and equipment, better SEN support. It is not exactly rocket science to see the correlation between reduced school funding and attendance issues.

stickygotstuck · 08/01/2024 08:08

Everywherieatsleepanddreamem · 08/01/2024 00:01

It’s interesting reading two threads atm, this one and the other one about draconian rules and uniform policies in secondary schools.
Just reading the documents from the DOE ‘Summary of responsibilities where a mental health issue is affecting attendance’
and they themselves recommend reasonable adjustments (comfort versions of uniforms etc).
So I wonder why so many schools haven’t received the memos on this type of thing.
My childs school is increasingly like a prison, in terms of restrictions and also in terms of the behaviour of the pupils.
After a period of very difficult school anxiety and refusal, camhs involvement, medication etc etc, the day my child returned to school she was directly diverted to the office for a day entirely without lessons for the crime of wearing fake (individual) eyelashes.I knew she was wearing them , the debilitating obsession and obsessive rigid routines about her appearance are one of the main reasons she is awaiting an assessment for asd, as the school are aware. I’d decided a day in lessons with barely noticeable false lashes was better than a day off. I pick my battles.
Apart from this it’s all masking. That said , her classmate who is trans and already has a nd diagnosis is permitted to wear rainbow items of clothing, headphones, pride badges and so on.
Honestly I sometimes feel my child won’t get the support she needs in school until she tells them she’s a cat.

This is us (substitute lashes for earrings). Down to the trans classmate being allowed stuff DC is not.

She's falling through the cracks, especially as does not upend tables, lashes out or identifies as whatever.

Thinking of changing to a different school, but this thread and the one about counterproductive draconian rules make me wonder I there's any point. It makes me want to cry....

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beeonmybonnett · 08/01/2024 08:09

How can covid even be brought into this ? The schools were closed for a few months by the government due to the emergency, that does not make school attendance optional

daffodilandtulip · 08/01/2024 08:11

DS struggled for a good 12 months after lockdowns to attend. He only managed it through teachers going above and beyond to get him back there. (Despite the council making unhelpful threats in the background.) I couldn't have done it alone.

withthischoice · 08/01/2024 08:17

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TrashedSofa · 08/01/2024 08:18

beeonmybonnett · 08/01/2024 08:09

How can covid even be brought into this ? The schools were closed for a few months by the government due to the emergency, that does not make school attendance optional

Because what you've written is a gross oversimplification.

Regular school attendance is a habit, and it was interfered with. This goes way beyond the period that schools were shut, we also had the bubbles in the 2020-1 school year and legal requirements to isolate persisted for most of the 2021-2 year also. This had an impact.

The experience of covid and lockdown and the government policy responses to these have also alienated lots of people, and while sometimes the reasons for that lack of trust are diametrically opposed to each other, the alienation still exists. A parent who is angry that their DC got no schooling for months on end and a parent who is angry because they think schools were shut too late will disagree personally with each other, but they both feel their DCs welfare was ignored. The wider landscape also makes this worse, factors like child poverty and shit CAMHS etc, and the outcome is that lots of parents simply don't recognise the state that's presided over all this as being fit to be listened to. It's about alienation.

TeenDivided · 08/01/2024 08:25

beeonmybonnett · 08/01/2024 08:09

How can covid even be brought into this ? The schools were closed for a few months by the government due to the emergency, that does not make school attendance optional

Residual MH issues, which if waiting for the NHS means they may not be being addressed.
General behaviour much poorer in schools post covid which means harder for other less robust children to cope.
Some children actually learned better at home, so may feel less bought in to school.
Parents of children whose schools coped less well have lost the feeling of 'social contract' with the school.

When you have a child who has or has had MH issues you become a lot more cautious with pushing them somewhere that to them seems to be a hostile environment. School/education is important, but not more so than MH.

Sirzy · 08/01/2024 08:27

beeonmybonnett · 08/01/2024 08:09

How can covid even be brought into this ? The schools were closed for a few months by the government due to the emergency, that does not make school attendance optional

The knock on for schools was over a lot longer than a few months though. Ds was in year 5 when it started and he still had a period of working from home when he was in year 7.

TrashedSofa · 08/01/2024 08:29

Parents of children whose schools coped less well have lost the feeling of 'social contract' with the school.

Such an important point.

I still feel a sense of social contract with ours, but I know a couple of the staff and understand how hard things were for them at the time my DC were denied access to school while others weren't. If I didn't happen to have that insider connection, I might feel completely alienated from school as well as the government on this one. Easy to see how it happens.

justasking111 · 08/01/2024 08:57

One knock on effect at our school is fundraising. After lockdown parents were disconnected the PTA never got going again. The old PTA volunteers had moved on. New parents never had the chance to get involved because of the COVID rules. Queues of parents made to stand six feet apart, pavement marked with footprints six feet apart. The chatter at the school gates gone. The police even turned up one afternoon to check on the queue.

The result raising money has collapsed on top of education cuts. Yes parents are disengaged our school community feeling broken.

DemBonesDemBones · 08/01/2024 08:57

Hahahaha. I'd love the government to actually provide some support for me and the school) to get my child to attend (and stay at) school. I've had to give up my job because there is absolutely no support available, the government have seen to that.

noblegiraffe · 08/01/2024 09:02

it’s about a trade dispute between workers and their employer (eg about your terms and conditions)

But thinking about national strikes it also has to be an issue that affects all members.

Striking about hours is tricky because it affects members differently depending on school policy. Our contract also says we have to work as many hours reasonably required to discharge our professional duties.

We can’t strike about cuts to SEN services or CAMHs which increase workload because that’s not our job. We can’t strike about school funding because that’s political. We can’t strike nationally about behaviour because again that varies by school.

Individual schools can strike against their own school for individual policies affecting teachers in that school, but I couldn’t go on strike over something happening in a different school.

So national strikes are generally called on the basis of pay/pensions because that’s a national policy.

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Lindy2 · 08/01/2024 09:02

I'm one of these dreadful parents with a non attender.

My child is autistic. They masked very well until year 9 (1 year ago) and then went into autistic burnout. Basically a mental breakdown.

Attendance went from 99% to around 30%.

For us there are many factors.

  • 2 years ago when I could see the cracks appearing I asked CAMHs and the school for help with self esteem, self confidence etc. I was told nothing was available.
  • An EHCP should take 20 weeks from start to finish. We now have 1 but it's taken a year. It's too little too late. Their needs are now too much.
  • The school is too big. 2000 + pupils. It's more like a factory than the schools I remember from my education. For an ASD child the size, noise, numbers of pupils etc is simply too overwhelming.
  • There are constant changes everyday. Supply teachers, change of timetable, unannounced tests. Absolute agony for an ASD child.
  • My child is not academic. They have memory difficulties. The GCSE syllabus is beyond their academic ability, particularly trying to do so many subjects at once. The previous O'levels or more vocational CSE options according to ability would have suited so much better. Imagine sitting for hours everyday not understanding what you are expected to do or not being able to do it.
  • In the olden days they would probably have been able to leave at 15 to work. That would actually suit them better.
  • The school is getting stricter and stricter. Detentions for forgetting a pencil, detentions for spending more than 5 minutes going to the toilet, detentions for not good enough homework (even if it's been done) etc. Detentions of over 3 hours and isolations are standard punishment. The ones that misbehave don't care. The ones that do behave are constantly terrified of making a mistake.

My child needs a specialist school. It's extremely difficult to get that type of placement. They'll be over 16 by the time a SEN place would be available for them.

I'm heartbroken they aren't coping. I'm heartbroken there's not more I can do to help.

I tried the being strict and doing what i could to force my child in. They either fled from the site during the day and went missing or they self harmed to the extent their life was at risk.

I'm far from the only parent in this situation. The SEN/school attendance situation, particularly for teenage, autistic girls is in absolute crisis. It's not the parents' fault.

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noblegiraffe · 08/01/2024 09:12

Illegal to strike nationally about things that do not affect all workers nationally.

It was a conversation about national strikes, so do you concede that we can’t strike nationally about things parents might be cross that we weren’t striking about?

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LittleMyTopKnot · 08/01/2024 09:21

Passingthethyme · 08/01/2024 06:32

Honestly if you can't be bothered to do the bare minimum and take your kids to school you really shouldn't have children, it's not fair on them

It is not that simple I think. In addition to SEN, some schools are awful. We had no help with academics when my DC was at the bottom of the class. We have no help with stretching now when at the top of the class.

I have mapped out the curriculum and bought the relevant books. We use these for extra work. I occasionally set my own mocks to check progress. I do send mine to school but if there is a sore throat or a cough, I will keep them home. If well enough, I will set my own work in the text books I have bought and go through that. I will set independent work and let DC check themselves if I am busy, I will go through difficult concepts if I am not busy. They learn more at home than in school.

I do send them to school but I feel the social contract irrevocably broke down during COVID and during the strikes. I will come down like a ton of bricks on bad behaviour so supporting school in that way. But mainly because that is manners and a life skill.

Attendance? I really couldn’t care less. Strikes? I just work from home and teach them myself.

I feel done with the schools.

TheThingIsYeah · 08/01/2024 09:50

justasking111 · 08/01/2024 08:57

One knock on effect at our school is fundraising. After lockdown parents were disconnected the PTA never got going again. The old PTA volunteers had moved on. New parents never had the chance to get involved because of the COVID rules. Queues of parents made to stand six feet apart, pavement marked with footprints six feet apart. The chatter at the school gates gone. The police even turned up one afternoon to check on the queue.

The result raising money has collapsed on top of education cuts. Yes parents are disengaged our school community feeling broken.

This is a very good point actually.

Not just PTAs but other activities that young people benefitted from such as scout groups and community centres. Run a lot of time by stoic volunteers in their 50s/60s that thought nah, I'm done with this once COVID hit. See also the workplace.

Things haven't really got back to the way they were, it's hard to put a finger on it, I dunno I feel the country seems a bit more "useless" at stuff if that's the right word.

Jellycatspyjamas · 08/01/2024 09:52

How can covid even be brought into this ? The schools were closed for a few months by the government due to the emergency, that does not make school attendance optional

When schools did open the landscape changed hugely. No group work, no singing or drama, no school shows, no communal playtime - if your friends were in a different class you literally didn’t see them because break times were staggered. These things make a big difference to children who may struggle with formal education, the different types of activities break up the school day, allow time to decompress, provide much needed physical movement and engagement.

Both my children found the return post Covid very difficult because school wasn’t the friendly, familiar environment they were used to. The rules changed, social contact was lost, creative and collaborative activities were non-existent. It wasn’t a few months off school, it was 2 years disruption to their school lives with things that made school manageable for them significantly changed and reduced.

There was also a huge reduction in contact with teachers so they couldn’t informally check in if your child had a bad day. You couldn’t mention something to the teacher that might help them with your child. The close, collaborative teacher/parent relationship was damaged and hasn’t really been recovered.

daffodilandtulip · 08/01/2024 10:07

I've just seen a bizarre advert from DfE saying "this morning he had a runny nose, but look at him now" then "attendance counts". Why aren't kids allowed time to recover from being sick, instead of being forced to spread it around?

BridasShieldWall · 08/01/2024 10:18

WillBeatJanuaryBlues · 07/01/2024 13:12

@BridasShieldWall

Any little understanding would go an extremely long way in sen knowledge.
As little as a pp saying her child needs to doodle to regulate emotions and help the dc concentrate.

There are plenty of free courses out there in the basic of sen they don't take long to complete.
There are many sen consultants who could change a school around in a few hours of understanding, tips and stragety.

The head teachers I refer to are really experienced, including SEN and we have a Trust Primary Lead who will also supports the Heads. The children have a range of needs but the numbers of children with complex language, medical and educational needs has increased.

The schools bring outside consultants including LA support. Whilst the advice is helpful it adds to the teachers already heavy workload in teaching the class and supporting all the children. ‘You can just do this (insert helpful suggestion) as well as teach the rest of the class etc etc.

There are several reception classes with children with ‘lower’ SEN needs and two or three children with complex medical, language and emotional etc needs. There are children who are unable to communicate with their parents, who are flight risks and have climbing over fences to leave the school, have life limiting illnesses.

I think it is quite patronising to think that a couple of free online courses or some tips or strategies will solve these problems. Trust me, if a child needed to doodle or have a calm place to go to regulate their emotions that would be in place. If it was that simple we would have solved the problem but it isn’t and these children require more support than the school is able to provide on their own.

TrashedSofa · 08/01/2024 10:19

daffodilandtulip · 08/01/2024 10:07

I've just seen a bizarre advert from DfE saying "this morning he had a runny nose, but look at him now" then "attendance counts". Why aren't kids allowed time to recover from being sick, instead of being forced to spread it around?

Because it's easier to come out with this sort of embarrassingly stupid shit than it is to actually address the underlying factors relating to high absence. Tackling CAMHS underfunding, parental alienation, child poverty and school budgets would require actual effort and resources, so we get this instead.

WillBeatJanuaryBlues · 08/01/2024 10:20

@BridasShieldWall

It is that simple.

peevedindeed · 08/01/2024 10:28

noblegiraffe · 07/01/2024 12:04

Covid lockdowns were 3 years ago and fuck-all was done to help children recover from the impacts. What is also not acknowledged is the impact of children catching covid on attendance. A £15 billion recovery programme was proposed and rejected. The only thing implemented was an academic tutoring programme which was a complete failure because of a govt procurement scandal.

The National Tutoring Programme has led to a cover crisis for schools because so many former cover-agency staff are now working as tutors. Our teaching staff have been getting very disgruntled at the amount of extra cover they're having to do because agency cover either isn't available or is shockingly expensive due to increased demand versus supply.

justasking111 · 08/01/2024 10:42

My grandson had just started in reception, when everything shut down he wasn't too bad mentally. It was when he went back the over use of hand sanitizer his teacher shouting a lot, windows and doors to the playground open. They were so cold. He now has an odd germ phobia.

He wasn't the only one who couldn't settle playing up. They called in Senco who were very thorough but said they weren't SEN children but traumatized.

Thankfully my grandson has turned a corner as have the others in no small part to a wonderful new young teacher who did her degree and pgce through turmoil too. His confidence is back he's a funny happy little guy again.

But his parents haven't forgotten their faith in a couple of teachers, one who should have been on sick leave her terror of COVID was so great it trickled down to the reception children for two years.

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