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Parents to be asked to solve school attendance crisis

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noblegiraffe · 07/01/2024 11:44

There is an article in the Times about the current school attendance crisis. It cannot be overstated how awful the attendance crisis is. Pupils, particularly disadvantaged pupils, are staying away from school in much larger numbers, and for more days than before covid.

It says that lockdowns broke the contract between parents and schools which said that school attendance was compulsory.

It blames parents for keeping their children home when they have a minor illness or are slightly anxious about school.

It quotes Bridget Phillipson, Shadow Education Secretary as saying "If I were secretary of state, I’d be sending a very clear message to parents that every day at school matters, and that irresponsible parents who don’t care about sending their kids to school are harming other kids’ life chances, not just their own"

(Whereas current Education Secretary Gillian) "Keegan will expand a programme that gives children skipping school an attendance mentor who could drive or walk youngsters from their home to school in the morning or negotiate with head teachers on their behalf. She said: “Persistent absence is a hangover from the pandemic affecting schools around the world. Schools and the government cannot do this alone.

“Families play a big part in attendance and parents have a legal duty to make sure their children are at school. I know it can be hard to get children out of the door, especially when they are feeling a bit anxious or have a mild cough or cold, so we must rebuild the social contract between parents and schools and make sure everyone plays their part.”

While lockdowns are brought up, what is not mentioned is the utter state schools were in between lockdowns and after lockdowns. Children were being supervised in halls rather than being taught due to lack of teachers who were ill (and this is still happening now due to inability to recruit). Lack of teachers meaning that kids get endless cover which can be largely a waste of time. Children who are anxious about attending school are expected to get on with it while teachers who are unable to cope with the poor behaviour of students are signed off with stress. The experience of children in schools during and since covid can be extraordinarily shit.

Attendance is much lower in pupils from disadvantaged backgrounds. Child poverty is not mentioned - I was reading about a child who couldn't attend school because her mother needed to use the one pair of shoes they shared. Other children are needed to look after younger siblings while parents work because they can't afford childcare. How will this be solved by sending a car around?

But we also know that schools in disadvantaged areas are more likely to struggle to hire staff. What is the point in a child attending school when they don't have teachers? How will Keegan and Phillipson argue that one?

This bit is the most worrying:

"A Labour government, Phillipson said, would place more emphasis on absenteeism as part of the Ofsted inspection framework, with schools compelled to produce an annual report on attendance, off-rolling (removing a pupil without using a permanent exclusion) and safeguarding. Schools are required to submit weekly attendance records to the Department for Education but absenteeism does not have its own Ofsted criteria, instead falling under a broader category of “behaviour and attitudes”.
These reports would affect the Ofsted rating given to schools, which would also take into account the progress they have made in shrinking the attainment gap between disadvantaged pupils and their more affluent peers"

Linking an Ofsted grading to attendance will just doom schools in disadvantaged areas to low Ofsted grades at a time when Ofsted had just started to recognise that grading a school based on disadvantage was a bad idea.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/1d7eb40d-c4c4-4dcc-85ea-ad6f62c65b9c?shareToken=6c4b865c0c1b8626f2761a5ad733b608

Bridget Phillipson: Parents must save lockdown’s lost generation

The shadow education secretary takes aim at absenteeism as a poll reveals that one in four parents don’t think their child has to go to school each day

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/1d7eb40d-c4c4-4dcc-85ea-ad6f62c65b9c?shareToken=6c4b865c0c1b8626f2761a5ad733b608

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Mikimoto · 07/01/2024 20:49

Fine them 100 quid a day the first time. 1000 a day the second.
Obviously not for serious illness - thinking more of the cultural mid-term trips to Orlando.

greengreengrass25 · 07/01/2024 20:51

@Mikimoto

That is fairly unusual though

Most people have to have a mortgage

Perfectly normal

Crochetpenguin · 07/01/2024 21:01

We are counting down the days until dd finishes yr 11 in June. Her attendance is poor due to weekly camhs appointments plus orthodontist which we cannot get after school. At one point school said she wasn't mentally well enough to attend school and to get a gp note to confirm she could attend. This took a week. It wasn't until a few days later that we realised that this was when ofsted were in. Obviously didn't want dd answering any questions about non existent pastoral care. This still makes me so angry.

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roarrfeckingroar · 07/01/2024 21:27

I just don't buy it, I'm sorry. One pair of shoes? For a family? Come on. In the absence of serious MH / learning difficulties / addiction issues - all of which should have social services involvement.

Responsibility for a child sits with his or her parents.

roarrfeckingroar · 07/01/2024 21:36

It's pretty hard to argue that school attendance is compulsory and necessary when teachers continue to strike

Workworkandmoreworknow · 07/01/2024 21:44

Any government introducing the removal of passports from any British citizen would be a truly abhorrent measure

It's already a thing. You can lose your passport, albeit temporarily, if you persistently fail to pay child maintenance. Confused

noblegiraffe · 07/01/2024 21:48

roarrfeckingroar · 07/01/2024 21:36

It's pretty hard to argue that school attendance is compulsory and necessary when teachers continue to strike

And yet the things that teachers are striking over are also massively affecting pupils. We want the same things and yet the government is setting us against each other.

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echt · 07/01/2024 21:58

roarrfeckingroar · 07/01/2024 21:36

It's pretty hard to argue that school attendance is compulsory and necessary when teachers continue to strike

Compulsory education is a UK law, devised by the government.
Strikes by teachers are employment matters.

The two are entirely separate matters.

Fifteenth · 07/01/2024 22:21

Yes. But they say the law has a reason. And the teachers say they agree with that reason. The strikes show they don’t.

Education should have nothing to do with Govt. Govt destroys everything it touches. You can’t fix this by Govt imposing more burdens either on teachers or parents.

noblegiraffe · 07/01/2024 22:23

Would you rather teachers quit or went on strike?

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noblegiraffe · 07/01/2024 22:28

This will sort it.

Parents to be asked to solve school attendance crisis
Parents to be asked to solve school attendance crisis
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Resilience · 07/01/2024 22:38

Having met many families where school attendance is an issue, I think the idea we can punish parents who don't get their children to school and that will solve the crisis is laughably simplistic and doomed to failure.

The majority of parents who don't send their DC in do so for what in their eyes are perfectly valid reasons. Others may disagree but the ones who just don't care are a small minority and failing their children in other ways that will have likely resulted in social services involvement anyway. Poor attendance is a symptom not a cause.

What's needed is an investment in schools to make them work better for more pupils, along with an invest into families that support them to do the right thing by children.

Fifteenth · 07/01/2024 22:39

Quit. And set up their own independent tuition centres/ courses for home schoolers.

Getting Govt out of education matters. It should never be possible for them to do again what they did in 2020.

TrashedSofa · 07/01/2024 22:44

noblegiraffe · 07/01/2024 22:28

This will sort it.

Those are so shit, they make me want to keep my DC off tomorrow out of spite.

SoIRejoined · 07/01/2024 22:48

They need another poster saying "he's fine when he's here", just to make clear how utterly ignorant they are.

StillWantingADog · 07/01/2024 22:53

I am certain that the combination of school not happening for two extended periods in 2020-2021 and since then closures due to strikes, and raac, have an impact on families struggling to get their kids to school

I don’t agree with the logic but I do hear parents parroting “how can they fine us when they strike whenever they like” etc. I support teacher strikes generally but it certainly doesn’t help.

TrashedSofa · 07/01/2024 22:54

The majority of parents who don't send their DC in do so for what in their eyes are perfectly valid reasons

Yep, and in addition I think parents are less likely now than pre 2020 to entertain the views of official bodies on what is and isn't valid.

HalloweenIsDone · 07/01/2024 22:57

Redlarge · 07/01/2024 12:10

I do hear it a lot from certain other parents at the school. One keeps her child off a lot because they were tired (never went to sleep till 12) and she repeats.. its my child, its ok when the teachers wanted to strike wasn't it 😐

Am so hear similar from mother parents to. So many were taken out in December to see Santa or do some other Christmas themed thing. Loads going on holiday or just "life's too short to got to school everyday" type comments.

There will be legitimate reasons for some kids. Others there really are not.

solsticelove · 07/01/2024 23:14

noblegiraffe · 07/01/2024 22:28

This will sort it.

Those images are an insult to children and their families. Especially those who struggle with MH/ASD etc.
What a bunch of cocks our govt are.

solsticelove · 07/01/2024 23:23

The entire system has been going down the pan for years, lockdowns just shone a very bright light on the issues. Interesting how the article describes it as having ‘broken the contract’.

Im an ex teacher who resigned to home educate my own DC and I see the absurdity of it all having stepped right back.

The whole thing needs an overhaul. It needs funding properly and bringing up to date for the 21st century/our digital world.

The article about attendance is the government blaming parents and as usual pitting schools/teachers against parents/families and taking NO responsibility for their part in this whole sham.

FixItUpChappie · 07/01/2024 23:52

It's also feelings of entitlement to cheaper and longer long haul holidays where the amount of any fine is less than the amount saved

From a government pov, I think you have to ask yourself what you are really trying to solve though. I seriously doubt the parents taking their kids out of school for a week or 2 in term 1/year are the group for whom school attendance is an issue. So many of the penalties are only affecting parents already care about school attendance broadly. I doubt they have much reach to the target group of kids who are vulnerable, whose families have lower socio-economic status, less resources, less upward mobility and who statistically are more likely to be disproportionately impacted by issues at home.

Everywherieatsleepanddreamem · 08/01/2024 00:01

It’s interesting reading two threads atm, this one and the other one about draconian rules and uniform policies in secondary schools.
Just reading the documents from the DOE ‘Summary of responsibilities where a mental health issue is affecting attendance’
and they themselves recommend reasonable adjustments (comfort versions of uniforms etc).
So I wonder why so many schools haven’t received the memos on this type of thing.
My childs school is increasingly like a prison, in terms of restrictions and also in terms of the behaviour of the pupils.
After a period of very difficult school anxiety and refusal, camhs involvement, medication etc etc, the day my child returned to school she was directly diverted to the office for a day entirely without lessons for the crime of wearing fake (individual) eyelashes.I knew she was wearing them , the debilitating obsession and obsessive rigid routines about her appearance are one of the main reasons she is awaiting an assessment for asd, as the school are aware. I’d decided a day in lessons with barely noticeable false lashes was better than a day off. I pick my battles.
Apart from this it’s all masking. That said , her classmate who is trans and already has a nd diagnosis is permitted to wear rainbow items of clothing, headphones, pride badges and so on.
Honestly I sometimes feel my child won’t get the support she needs in school until she tells them she’s a cat.

Trilateralcommission · 08/01/2024 00:02

In the modern age with the internet, etc why are schools needed the way they are currently ? or are they just a means of creating the workers for the capitalist system ?

noblegiraffe · 08/01/2024 00:03

We tried doing school by Internet and it didn’t work.

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Trilateralcommission · 08/01/2024 00:04

noblegiraffe · 08/01/2024 00:03

We tried doing school by Internet and it didn’t work.

id argue it semi worked,