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Diagnose my sibling

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moneyMathy · 07/01/2024 08:43

I have an older brother who is 40. He studied for his phd until a few years ago and has done very well academically. He is now on a 6 figure salary and is liked at work. If relevant, DH and I are also on a 6 figure salary.

Our parents live abroad and are retired. They are asset-rich but cash poor as they now rely on their pension as their only source of income. Until this year, our parents have always paid for his tickets to come visit or for any holidays. For his last visit, his paid for his own tickets but took absolutely no money with him. He also refused to use his card locally. So, my parents paid for everything including his visit to the dentist, the doctor, blood tests etc.

Our parents gave both of us money for a house deposit. My brother has over £300k in savings. He lives is a house share with other men. He does not drive or own a car. He speaks to my father several times a day - when he wakes up, during his breaks, after work, before going to bed etc. He has no friends.

Why is it my issue? As my parents are getting older, there is more and more pressure on me to assume some "take care of him". A few years ago, I organised a holiday for the family and he was supposed to pay me back for his share. He never did as I "would not miss the money". Every time we go out for lunch, I have to pay the bill. My parents constantly ask me to buy him things.

If money was an issue, I would absolutely pay for things. However, money is not an issue for him. He has more disposable income than I do.

Is he just tight or does he have some undiagnosed issues?

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Yougetmoreofwhatyoufocuson · 07/01/2024 09:05

He needs telling, just because he’s clever doesn’t make him not stupid.

xyz111 · 07/01/2024 09:06

You and your parents need to learn the word no. No I will not pay for your lunch. You need to give me your share of the holiday money before I book it. You're not doing him any favours and stressing yourselves out unnecessarily.

MrsMariaReynolds · 07/01/2024 09:06

I'm curious as to the resident countries of your family, and whether there's a cultural expectation at play here. You say your brother seeks private medical and dental care when he visits your parents in their country.... Clearly you're parents are not resident in the UK. Are you?

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DinoRodney · 07/01/2024 09:07

Diagnosing him isn’t really the issue.

stop paying in restaurants.

start demanding your money back.

stop being a doormat.

MeMyBooksAndMyCats · 07/01/2024 09:08

He doesn't need a internet diagnosis.

He's been spoilt. You all need to Stop paying for him for goodness sake.

WASZPy · 07/01/2024 09:11

You can't change it for your parents. They are adults, they choose how they relate to their son.

But you can put in firm boundaries so it doesn't pass onto you when they are not around. Do not pay for anything for him. Do not buy things for him. Do not join in with 'poor Johnny needs help' when your parents talk like that. You need to make it crystal clear from now that you will never be his crutch.

FlamingoQueen · 07/01/2024 09:18

He sounds like an entitled arse who thinks he’s better than everyone else!

pickledandpuzzled · 07/01/2024 09:23

Tinkly laugh- don’t be silly, he’s all grown up now! He has a great job, he can cover his own bills!
Why? There’s no need.
I don’t understand. Why is it always my turn?

Stop doing the whole unspoken expectation thing and just wonder why/ask why/ say no need.

And encourage your parents to do the same.

moneyMathy · 07/01/2024 09:42

My brother and I are in the UK. My parents are abroad. They sold some assets and gave us both cash for a house deposit a while back. They still have a lot of assets just not as much cash. They are not poor and have a great lifestyle but private medical for my brother is an extra expense.

I have grown a backbone but my parents have not.

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MatildaTheCat · 07/01/2024 09:43

I had an aunt who was unbelievably tight despite having a reasonable income and later pension. After her death it became evident that this was part of a much bigger picture of hoarding/ depression and probably other issues.

Some of her behaviour was quite similar. She’d go round to her elderly mother’s house to make phone calls or do her laundry. Charge her for petrol on journeys she was going on anyway.

So I completely believe this is a thing but other than to create boundaries and sticking to them yourself I wouldn’t hope for much change. Your parents are likely to continue after so long.

GalileoHumpkins · 07/01/2024 09:46

He doesn't need a diagnosis he needs a kick up the arse.

moneyMathy · 07/01/2024 09:52

Oh and this one will make you laugh...

"You are better off financially than your brother because your DH and you earn twice as much jointly and the house you bought went up in value"

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dlago · 07/01/2024 10:15

Brother is a 40 year adult with a well paid job. He should be told he is taking advantage and it needs to stop.

TigerOnTour · 07/01/2024 10:24

I'm not sure you can do much in this situation. Your parents are either reaping what they have sown with their parenting or your brother genuinely needs more support than you do. Either way, you cannot change that dynamic. However, you cannot be expected to support him after your parents' deaths, don't feel guilty about not doing this.

I come from a family with a similar set up and for a long time felt jealous that my sibling hot special treatment. As a parent I can now see that my mum and dad just can't let my sibling 'drown' and the best I can do is just keep our of it and stand on my own two feet.

Paddleboarder · 07/01/2024 10:30

I'm no expert but immediately thought he might have undiagnosed autism. I work with similar people who cannot easily deviate from the expected routine, no matter what happens and how it affects the work day. That's what I thought when you said he calls your dad so much, and it seems to be at the same times every day? However, that's not a reason for him not to pay for anything - I would insist that he sends you the money over before you book anything up for him, and say very plainly that he has to step up.

coffeeisthebest · 07/01/2024 10:38

Stop talking to your parents about him. Allow them to live with their choices while you make your own. Refuse to pay for stuff for him and tell him you will not. Change the dynamics.

Falkenburg · 07/01/2024 11:55

People behave selfishly only if you allow them to.

AliceOlive · 07/01/2024 15:34

How does a lifelong student have £300K in savings?

I think you should let your parents just deal with him and resolve not to pay anything for him yourself, ever.

PTSDBarbiegirl · 07/01/2024 15:39

It sounds like he has little self awareness and is co-dependent with your DF. I don't think he's at an age where anything you do will change but you have the power to assert your own boundaries here. Think about pursuing your relationship with parents independently and let him do the same. Pull back a bit or confront him with your concerns and ask if he needs help. It's not your responsibility though focus on yourself.

AliceOlive · 07/01/2024 15:40

Also, he sounds like someone I know rather well who is highly intelligent and can be charming but also has very poor social understanding, and has a unique way of doing everything.

I think this person has OCD and undiagnosed ASD.

withthischoice · 07/01/2024 15:42

moneyMathy · 07/01/2024 09:52

Oh and this one will make you laugh...

"You are better off financially than your brother because your DH and you earn twice as much jointly and the house you bought went up in value"

how can you not see your parents are the cause of this situation and that your brother and you have been failed by their pretty poor parenting

Lovethatforyouhun · 07/01/2024 15:45

It doesnt matter what is issue is. You are responsible only for yourself. Learn to say NO. Learn boundaries. You don’t have to do what your parents say you are a grown adult! If he is babied by your parents that’s their look out. Not your problem.

Lovethatforyouhun · 07/01/2024 15:46

Lots of co-dependence and enmeshment going on in your family.

WmFnKdSg1234 · 07/01/2024 16:03

I think as regards diagnosis @AliceOlive has nailed the most likely.

And what to do:@coffeeisthebest said:
I would insist that he sends you the money over before you book anything up for him

Marynotsocontrary · 07/01/2024 16:27

Why do you think he has ocd specifically @AliceOlive ?
He does sound as if he may be neurodiverse OP.