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Camila Batmanghelidjh (Kids Company) has passed away

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TERFisTHEnewTREND · 02/01/2024 20:05

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2024/jan/02/kids-company-charity-founder-camila-batmanghelidjh-dies-aged-61

Oh bless! She seemed a good woman.

I always thought she was treated far worse than she should have been. Her heart was in the right place. Sad

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Patriciaspantry · 09/01/2024 22:09

BadSkiingMum · 09/01/2024 20:21

I have since read the full Public Accounts Committee report and most of the appended individual written evidence submitted to the committee.

It’s complex, but a few things that jumped out at me were:

  • The financial problems, by way of insufficient reserves and a very high risk operating model, went back many years. The committee was very critical of the auditors for not sufficiently flagging the risk to the charity as a going concern. Other professional services firms who conducted reviews (at least one review was commissioned by a government department) were also criticised for failing to identify the risks inherent in the KC model, having applied heavy caveats to the ‘assurance’ they were willing to provide.
  • Ministers absolutely fell over themselves to give KC cash, sometimes directly against civil service advice. This especially applies to the final payment, days before the collapse.
  • The written evidence submitted to the committee was utterly polarised, whether it was from staff, volunteers or service users, there was a highly disparate and varied view of CB and the work of KC.

I am far less sure of what to think now!

The financial problems, by way of insufficient reserves and a very high risk operating model, went back many years. The committee was very critical of the auditors for not sufficiently flagging the risk to the charity as a going concern. Other professional services firms who conducted reviews (at least one review was commissioned by a government department) were also criticised for failing to identify the risks inherent in the KC model, having applied heavy caveats to the ‘assurance’ they were willing to provide.

Unless you have worked at a community charity the above ^^ will seem surprising but it is honestly how most coal face charities operate.

It’s very rare nowadays for a charity to receive regular funding year on year. Most don’t know how they are going to fund the next six months. Well maybe the glossy ones do, but not those working with traumatised children, the homeless or the mentally ill. That may seem unprofessional but it is how it works if all of your funds are going to help people in need in the here and now. I’m always quite suspicious of charities that have reserves tbh!

The general public think that cheques and offers of business sponsorship roll in every month without much effort but that’s about as far from reality as it gets. Small charities are forced to apply for bid after bid and each of them have major strings attached. Honestly the process is tortuous and time wasting as most are turned down. It’s also a very precarious way to run a busy organisation and you spend more time stressing about finances and raising money and wondering where the next cheque is coming from, rather then spending that time with your clients!

I would say overall it’s a good sign that KC did not have a lot of reserves because it shows money was being directed to the end user as it should have been, and I think the official investigation revealed that the charity would have survived financially had the totally rigged and false allegations about sexual abuse not been publicised by dodgy journalists.

BadSkiingMum · 10/01/2024 07:03

I hear what you’re saying about very grassroots charities. However I have previously worked in several small and medium sized charities so do know the charity world and funding processes quite well. Each of those charities had reserves as per the Charity Commission guidance - surely it is irresponsible not to ensure that your services can survive a temporary gap in funding or a crisis? Or issue redundancy payments if needed?

Kids Company was no longer a small or ‘grassroots’ charity, it was employing hundreds of people in three different cities.

The report is quite an eyebrow-raising read.

2024andsobegins · 10/01/2024 19:34

Patriciaspantry · 09/01/2024 22:09

The financial problems, by way of insufficient reserves and a very high risk operating model, went back many years. The committee was very critical of the auditors for not sufficiently flagging the risk to the charity as a going concern. Other professional services firms who conducted reviews (at least one review was commissioned by a government department) were also criticised for failing to identify the risks inherent in the KC model, having applied heavy caveats to the ‘assurance’ they were willing to provide.

Unless you have worked at a community charity the above ^^ will seem surprising but it is honestly how most coal face charities operate.

It’s very rare nowadays for a charity to receive regular funding year on year. Most don’t know how they are going to fund the next six months. Well maybe the glossy ones do, but not those working with traumatised children, the homeless or the mentally ill. That may seem unprofessional but it is how it works if all of your funds are going to help people in need in the here and now. I’m always quite suspicious of charities that have reserves tbh!

The general public think that cheques and offers of business sponsorship roll in every month without much effort but that’s about as far from reality as it gets. Small charities are forced to apply for bid after bid and each of them have major strings attached. Honestly the process is tortuous and time wasting as most are turned down. It’s also a very precarious way to run a busy organisation and you spend more time stressing about finances and raising money and wondering where the next cheque is coming from, rather then spending that time with your clients!

I would say overall it’s a good sign that KC did not have a lot of reserves because it shows money was being directed to the end user as it should have been, and I think the official investigation revealed that the charity would have survived financially had the totally rigged and false allegations about sexual abuse not been publicised by dodgy journalists.

Edited

You have to have reserves, it’s good governance. 3-6 months operating costs are advisable. In fact, to be successful in most funding applications you need to evidence your reserves and submit your accounts. It’s extremely bad practice and a risk to have less than 3-6 months reserves. However, it is also true that you shouldn’t have too much reserves and again, if you do, then funders will question why you aren’t using them.

remember too that some funds are restricted, they can only be used for the purpose for which they are given so you need other income streams to ensure you can cover other costs which aren’t covered by grants

A robust charity will not be relying solely on one source of income, it will have a range of restricted funding ( grants, trusts), unrestricted (donations, marathons, cake sales) corporate funding of they’re lucky, legacies and some major donor.

Theinnocenteyeballsinthesky · 10/01/2024 19:47

kids Company had a large number of paid staff all of whom will have had their own rent/mortgages/bills to pay. The idea that a charity should operate without reserves is incredibly bad practice because it leaves both the people who use the services and the staff completely vulnerable

the trustees had a responsibility towards their own staff all of whom lost their jobs overnight as a result of some very poor decisions making around their reserves policy

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