Has anyone registered as British by being born here as an adult?

[Zssn]

Hello,

I hope you are well and.

I may , as a last resort , need and be forced to register as British by birth in the UK as an adult, as I was born in the UK and lived here my whoke life.
This is as I have no contact with my mum to prove her status at the time of my birth in the UK.

Has anyone done this?

What evidence is required?

Any advice is greatly appreciated.

Thank you in advance

Allthegoodnamesarechosen,

Thank you for your response.

Yes, I have contacted my MP, and my MP and the team is lovely, so helpful and understanding.

As this has been going on since March then May this year, that is how long I have had help with this situation of mine.

I am glad your friend got it sorted.

I too am at my wits end, and it's starting to affect my sleep as of late too.

Silverbirchtwo,

Thank you for your response to my predicament.

I had to go all the way to the town hall where I was birn , to ask if the lady on my birth certificate that signed it was there and thankfully she was, and said it was her that recorded my birth . Then, I had to go to the gp my mother had pre-natal care with, who luckily is good friends with my dad, and he wrote a letter too.

I have no contact with my German relatives in Germany, as I understand it now, due to my mother's mental illness, she shut everyone out of her life.
Sadly, no contact with my father's relatives either, because my mum forbade it growing up.

MP is brilliant and CAB too.

I just am so frustrated of this situation, and I feel as of I am being punished for not being in contact with someone that abused me the way she did.

TheSquareMile,

Thank you for your reply.

I read only a few words in German, and only speak broken German- enough to have a small conversation and that's it.

I promised my son at the beginning of this year, for his birthday just gone, to go on our first holiday as a family. He was so excited, and only to let him down. I truly feel like I am such a bad mother, as I broke my promise to him. It really breaks my heart I did this. I literally an so upset every single night, and cannot sleep properly, as this unanticipated situation has reaked havoc.

Plus, the EUSS said if I get a German passport, I cannot register with them even as late, because in the British Nationality Act 1981 the law states I am a British national born citizen to an EU Settled mother prior my birth. Those that has kids between 1983-2000, in law are British citizens. This is my conundrum too.

I am lost as which way to turn .

Hi OP, sorry to hear you’re going through this.
I was born in the UK to non British parents, then grew up in their home country.
when I was 24 I moved to the UK for work.
I applied for my UK passport after Brexit, using my UK birth certificate. No issue with that. Not sure if that makes me British? I vote, pay tax etc!
maybe you can just apply for a passport with your birth cert?

Have UKVI ever put in writing to you, your MP or the CAB, that they consider you to be British by birth here?

Spookymormonhelldream

Thank you for your response.

I lived in the UK my whole life, studied, used NHS , worked, paid taxes, voted, set up mu own business, bought a house ect.... however they did not like only my British birth certificate, I needed to get my mother's and her history fir some reason.

GertrudeJekyllAndHyde,

No, only over the phone.

When the CAB rang them last week , they said yes I am in law under the British Nationality Act 1981 section 50 B the new practice Bill of June 2023 with the added insertion of all those born between1983-2000 in the remedial period to EU mothers /parents are British citizens , and all previous practices restrictions to be disregarded, I am a British national born citizen.

I applied at the end of May 2023 , the law was in the middle of being finalised in June 2023, but my application was still going on. Sometimes I think, this may because problem, as no one at HMPO knew which law to apply. I did ask them what law did they apply to my application, I have not heard from them at all.

Unless you're on the bones of your arse OP pay an immigration solicitor to look into this for you. You'll not only get nowhere but might be seriously set back following the advice of random strangers on the internet.

Even if you can't afford the management of your whole case. They can give you expert advice.

Being born here does not make you British. This changed about 1980 I think. Now it all depends on the nationality of your parents at the time of your birth. If your mother was British that should make you British too but if you have no contact with your mum, you may have to take expert advice on this.

If there's one thing which can be said for nationality and immigration law, it's that it's not simple.

psspsspssmrrowww,

Thank you for your reply.

Yes I have an immigration adviser, who said to get my father's immigration history, and see if anywhere on his visas or forms at the time it says the word/s settled or sponsor to my father in my mother's name.

This is a really complex case @Zssn and I would advise getting a MP on the case as they will have legal experts or know who to call on.

I think you are mistaken in thinking a British birth certificate makes you British or gives you citizenship or whatever. It doesn't. It's just the piece of paper to confirm the baby was born, time and date etc. With a German mother and Bangladeshi father that doesn't give you British nationality, even if you were born. The EU thing is added complication. You really need an expert on your case on this, OP.

It sounds like you are a British citizen and meet the requirements, but the issue is proving your mother had settled status in the UK at the time you were born.

If your father immigrated based on your mother's status, then his records will show that's the basis of the application, and the original application he made will have the proof of settled status you need.

Otherwise, proving settled status might have to go through your MP as I don't know how else you'd be able to get someone to access the relevant records & applications.

CoatOfArms,

Thank you for your response .

Yes, my mum had no immigration restrictions as she was able to sponsor my dad to get his visas and the pathway to naturalise.

In the 1980's German EU citizens ,from what I was informed by my immigration advisor, didn't require stamps or certificates of anything in the passports due to freedom of movement to stay here, live here, work not work ect.... This is what makes it tricky. The word settled only has been required since Brexit, and the connotations surrounding it changes dramatically between 1980s and 2000s onwards. Perhaps that the problem for me.

gwenneh,

Thank you for your response.

That is what my immigration advisor is hoping, as am I. That somewhere it states her name, and the word settled, sponsor, spouse or something equivalent back then. As well as a letter her employer sent to the homeoffice for my dad at the time. Hopefully, due to how much time has elapsed, nothing has been destroyed- this is what I fear.

My amazing MP is helping too.

Worst expensive case scenario, I need to register as British from birth.

Exactly, in the 90s we had freedom of movement and Germans could come here and we could go there. How that freedom of movement extended to sponsoring people from outside the EU, I have no idea. This is why you need specialist advice.

Good luck!

Is the Immigration Advisor a qualified solicitor, OP?

CoatOfArms,

My immigration advisor said it's really difficult , as a case was heard this year where a man in my position, but with a French mother had the same problem. In the case, my immigration advisor stated that the judge ruled kids like me born in the UK in 1983-2000 to an EU parent, were free from immigration controls and previous practices, but from year 2000+ then the word settled was required. So making kids born in 1983-2000 Brtisih national born citizens. The law was passed in June 2023, and that should've apparently fixed my problem too, but it did not sadly.

Unless, my immigration advisor thinks as I was applying in the middle of the case being heard, this could have affected my application, because nothing was law yet.

That's why we have requested to get my father's immigration history records, and see what it says on his history about my mother or not.

If nothing , then I will wait for my MP , then if that doesn't work either, I will need to register as British from birth - this is so expensive though

Ask your father if he has his old Bangladeshi passport. In the back, either inside the cover or on the last page will be a Home Office reference number. It often has HO written before the number. If he has his ILR letter or letter when he got British nationality, this will also have the number. The Home Office should be able to trace him and your mother with this number. She will also have a HO number and they should be able to cross reference it.

Getting your MP involved is a very good idea, as civil servants have to respond to these, and quickly.

Aydel,.

Thank you, thank you so much.

I just found a number on my father's old Bangladeshi passports that is the same in all his passports that says leave to enter , no visa required until a certain year then the number in pen onto of those stamps.

I will contact the Home office to see if they can help me with cross referencing numbers , or ask my Mp or immigration advisor if I am unable to do it.

Thank you again for this suggestion. I sincerely appreciate it.

It might take them a while but they should be able to find his file with this reference number. Where did he apply for his original visa? Sometimes Embassies and High Commissions keep records as well. Immigration records are supposed to be kept for eighty years.

You say your mum was not very well mentally when you were young OP, did you have any contact with services (social, visiting support services, etc) or was it manageable without intervention/not picked up? Just trying to think what other sources of records might be accessible to you to prove you’ve always been here.

rrrrrreatt,

No, it was all behind closed doors so to speak. My dad was always working , and when he was off , I usually stayed with him in whatever room he was in. Only when my dad was home, it was okay , but when he was at work it was a whole different story.
We daren't talk about this at school, otherwise my mum would ensure that we wouldn't see the light day. It wasn't picked up at school either, even though I was off multiple times. I remember one week to recover from belt bruises on my fingers for eating hubba bubba gum aged 6. My fingers were bandaged by my mum, who said I just got my hand caught in a door.

Aydel,

Thank you again.

I will get on this after the holiday closures , as I have already asked the Home office for my father's detailed immigration history records.

I hope this will be of some use .

Thank you again , I sincerely appreciate it

Being born in the UK and having a British birth cert does not guarantee citizenship.

The rules vary depending when born - it’s all detailed online - if born in the UK between 1 January 1983 and 1 October 2000 then you are automatically a British citizen if when you were born at least one of your parents was both:

• a citizen of a country that was in the EU or the EEA at the time
• living in the UK with free movement rights

If the parent that meets these conditions is your father, he must have been married to your mother when you were born.

It sounds like you need to be able to evidence your mother meets these requirements.

Shopgirl1,

Thank you for your response.

Yes my mum had both.

1st part easy to prove due to her birth certificate.

2nd part is difficult to prove, as I have no contact with her. Freedom of movement is the onky easy part , as Germany had it. It's her working i need to prove, as i have no contact with her. However she was in the UK without immigration restrictions, as she sponsored my commonwealth father to stay, live and work in the UK. My immigration advisor said, sponsors usually worked between 1983-2000, and had no immigration controls and well as must've been settled. So I am hoping in my father's immigration history records, it says my biological mother's name , with her sponsoring him and with her working or settled.
Just awaiting his file which could take upto 6 weeks.
Hopefully, something good comes put of it 🙏