Schools demand national campaign against parents who are abusive to school staff

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A survey suggests that 30% of classroom teachers and 75% of headteachers have received verbal abuse from parents this year, a marked increase on before the pandemic.

The North East Schools network would like to see a national NHS-style campaign to highlight the issue and to say that abuse against school staff is never appropriate. Given that there are many public places that have signs up saying 'abuse against staff will not be tolerated' it always surprises me that this is not already a thing in schools.

Interestingly the article notes "While most interactions with parents were positive, there were small groups of parents “willing to be abusive towards school staff” – including complaints straight to external government agencies.
These bodies, such as Ofsted, the Department for Education and the Education and Skills Funding Agency “should only get involved once the school has completed their complaints procedure”."

Perhaps all those on here who rush to write 'complain to Ofsted' about some school incident should take note that they are part of the problem.

https://schoolsweek.co.uk/schools-demand-national-campaign-against-abusive-parents/

Indeed @MrsHamlet a whole space not being used while we try to persuade mum that he is a danger to other students and try to collect evidence for the police about his drug dealing in school.

Parents scream about toilet visits. They probably would be so keen for their kids to be there is they knew what some kids were attempting to do in them during lessons.

I really haven't. Please do post them.

Perhaps teachers should give some examples of when parents have been abusive to them and the posters who are insistent that it is because schools are terrible places might have to reassess their opinions.

Was verbally abused by a parent because I phoned home to see if the pupil was OK.

Was threatened with loosing my job because I gave a child a detention and he was down for playing for the school football team.

Was threatened with having my house burnt down because of a fight their child was in.

Had a parent get in my face and threaten to punch me in a meeting about how to improve a relationship with their child.

I posted with the bit where you referred to me in bold, Rappell

😁 I'd like to see any evidence that I treat teachers like emotional punch bags. That's ridiculous.

What a spurious, baseless accusation.

I'll wait.

The quote was clearly a comment about the campaign and said precisely nothing about you. Do you not see the difference?

The OP has already put one to you. You have also accused her of swearing at you.

Rappelletoi

You have accused several posters of being against complaining, yet no-one has posted that they are against legitimate complaints.

Abuse is never acceptable.

I do remember though getting an abusive phone call once when I rang up about a really naughty kid in my year 8 class, and halfway through shouting his mum burst into tears and admitted she was under a lot of pressure. I’m not trying to suggest that pressure excuses abuse but I have to admit I’ve snapped or behaved out of character when stressed about something else and it does happen.

Not talking about me here, are you?

It's usually to do with capacity. What job do you do?

@Desecratedcoconut

Every one of your posts drips with distain for teachers. It would take too long to add it all up

But lucky for me the real world consequences are coming. Don’t come crying to us when your kids has cover staff for every lesson because your behaviour drive away so many staff.

I myself am getting out next year because parent behaviour is so bad. Bad luck for my groups. After 19 years as an outstanding teacher there are now very few people training in my subject. I suspect the yr12 group I pick up next year will have to have a non-specialist for their final year. I’m sure parents will complain but school can’t magic up a member of staff. Perhaps they should have thought of that before they were so vile.

This is all fabrication. Of course it's the tone 🙄

I have pointed out the original post contains the following:

Perhaps all those on here who rush to write 'complain to Ofsted' about some school incident should take note that they are part of the problem.

There is a large difference between just approaching a teacher and shouting at them or threatening them. There is also a difference between accepting a child may misbehave and never accepting your DC can do wrong. Or choosing to accept what may be a lie from your DC or an account with things missed out so they can blame a teacher.

That should never be acceptable, and is very different from someone bypassing a school complaints procedure.

Which she has.

I've now posted two posts where you say things about me despite your claim

"I am interested in the public policy issues raised by this thread and have engaged exclusively on those points, saying precisely NOTHING about OP."

And you have posted several times that posters are trying to remove avenues of complaint ([araphrased), which is incorrect.

Thw quote she included was clearly about the campaign. Which I am entitled to hold views on.

And because you're ignoring it.

I have commented on the campaign and quoted the orignal post. Why that should attract this level of drama is a puzzle?

I haven't said anything about other posters.

You do know that its all written in the thread?

You said "I am interested in the public policy issues raised by this thread and have engaged exclusively on those points, saying precisely NOTHING about OP."

And I've just posted a post where you say exactly something about me and what you think I have 'sought' to do.

What's that word for when someone insists to you that you haven't just experienced something that you experienced?