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Starved to mean cold

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stopmefeelingsick · 01/12/2023 19:04

Anyone knowledgeable about the origins of the English language know if this is a regional thing?

Growing up I remember my Grandmother coming in on a cold day and saying she was starved. She meant with cold but I'd grown up (as did everyone else I knew) knowing starved meaning hungry.

Anyone else heard it said meaning this?

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harriethoyle · 01/12/2023 20:13

My cumbrian mother and GM would use this expression. You've made me feel very nostalgic @stopmefeelingsick 😊

Butteredtoast55 · 01/12/2023 20:16

It was used a lot when I was growing up in Derbyshire. Also 'clammed to death' which meant hungry and cold.

FloozingThePlot · 01/12/2023 20:25

@ImNunTheWiser - same - I was surrounded by Ulster Irish growing up. Starved with the cold was the go to description!

Pollyparkin · 01/12/2023 21:05

kiwibrit1965 · 01/12/2023 19:59

Yup. Starved was definitely a word I remember being used. My dad was from Blackburn and I guessed it was from there. It meant cold right down to the marrow

Blackburn parents here too and starved is well known way of saying you're extremely cold

Gatekeeper · 01/12/2023 21:08

In my parts we would say 'nithered'

CesareBorgia · 01/12/2023 21:12

Gatekeeper · 01/12/2023 21:08

In my parts we would say 'nithered'

Is that to rhyme with 'withered' or 'mithered' (to quote another northern word)?

LeakyPipes · 01/12/2023 21:16

I've always thought it was a Scottish expression.

XpelairHamPortal · 01/12/2023 21:18

North Staffordshire saying: "it's starvation out", meaning it's bloody cold outside.

Gatekeeper · 01/12/2023 21:18

CesareBorgia · 01/12/2023 21:12

Is that to rhyme with 'withered' or 'mithered' (to quote another northern word)?

To rhyme with 'withered'. S.W Durham pit village

CesareBorgia · 01/12/2023 21:20

Gatekeeper · 01/12/2023 21:18

To rhyme with 'withered'. S.W Durham pit village

I like that - it sounds like you'd shudder when you said it.

ThursdayRandomness · 01/12/2023 21:25

My gran used to say it, Derbyshire born.

IWanderedLonely · 01/12/2023 21:48

Peak District here, yes, I still say I'm starved to death when I'm very cold.

tatyr · 01/12/2023 21:55

Famished is similar I suppose, famished with the cold is something my Irish mum would have said

senua · 01/12/2023 22:01

I can never remember if the old wives' saying is "starve a fever, feed a cold" or "feed a fever, starve a cold".
It's the former and perhaps it does make sense if 'starve' means 'make cold' - you want to starve the temperature of a fever.

Calendargirly · 01/12/2023 22:07

Yes, starved of heat.

Similarly 'perished' was also used to mean cold in the north where I'm from.

bruffin · 01/12/2023 22:10

My Nan used to say it. She was Welsh

Findapath · 01/12/2023 22:11

Yep was used in Lancashire when I was growing up ‘Im starving I’ve just put the hens in and it’s brassic tonight ‘ - something my grandmother would have said

Findapath · 01/12/2023 22:12

Also ‘it’s cold enough for a walking stick. Its cold enough for 2 tonight.’

cunningartificer · 01/12/2023 22:14

Starf is the old and middle English word for die. The f becomes v in modern English (like fox and vixen, originally fixen = little fox) so you get starve. Often you would die from lack of food hence the association with the modern sense, but you can also be starved with the cold, i.e. killed by it.

cunningartificer · 01/12/2023 22:16

The original old English word is steorfan... the development is quite interesting

PrincessHoneysuckle · 01/12/2023 22:18

Never heard this in 43 years.south Yorkshire.

Saz12 · 01/12/2023 22:18

My mum used to say "dont worry, youre just a bit starved" meaning its cold, late and youre hungry, rather than "you feel horrible because the worlds against you"

MaidOfSteel · 01/12/2023 22:20

I'm from the north east and I've never heard that phrase in my 50+ years.

KrisKringlee · 01/12/2023 22:20

Cumbria