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Was I in the wrong to have had a go at this woman?

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Bigpromotion · 24/11/2023 12:06

I have had my 3 year old rescue dog for just over a year. He is a very nervous dog due to being abused and locked away for the first year of his life.

With lots of love and patience and working with a behaviourist we are slowly helping him love life.

I am lucky to live semi-rural and walk every day over fields and woodlands. I purposely choose to walk most days around 10-11am and again at 3pm as I know less people are walking at that time. It’s a public accessed area so we do meet people and their dogs I know we can’t have the place to ourselves but in general it’s quite quiet. I keep him on a lead at all times with a bright yellow ‘Nervous Dog’ sign on the lead. Most people and dogs we meet are lovely, they will usually pop their dogs back on the lead if they see us or keep them off the lead if their dogs are very well trained and have good recall, which I have no issues with at all. We often chat and have had no issues with other dogs.

However, back in the summertime we were walking through the woods and a woman jogged passed me with her two dogs. One of her dogs, a young female Lab literally pounced on top of my dog as soon as she came into contact with me, with lots of yelping from my dog and growling from hers.
Thankfully, no broken skin but it left my dog cowering like Cringer in He-man (if anyone else is old enough to remember him? lol!).
Anyhow, the woman had jogged passed, when she heard the commotion she came back. I said ‘Your dog just attacked mine’. She looked bemused and said ‘No no, she wasn’t attacking him. She is female, he is male and she was just showing her dominance!’. I replied ‘Well tell that to him’ and pointed to my poor little dog who by now was trying to clamber up my leg. (Btw, my dog is a Yorkshire terrier/Jack Russell cross so much smaller than the Lab). She just Pfft’d and carried on her way.

Back to this morning, we were just coming out of the same woodland, onto the fields, minding our own business and loe and behold bounding out of the woods is the same lab. No collar, no sign of the owner and as soon as she reaches my dog she sets on him again. I shoved her out of the way and shouted at her to leave. She ran off back into the woods. I managed to see the owner through some bracken and shouted at her that her dog had just attacked mine. She started to give off the same spiel about dominance and I cut her short and told her this was the second time, it was not on and if she can not control her dog then it needs to be on a lead AND a collar.

My dog pulled all the way home and is now cowering in his crate.

It’s not in my nature to shout at random strangers and now I feel a bit bad but I was fuming at the time as it’s the second time. Surely it is simple responsible dog ownership to keep your dog on a leash if they are prone to attacking other dogs?

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Alargeoneplease89 · 24/11/2023 12:09

Show your dominance and jump on her. Honestly that is so horrible and I feel for your poor dog.

ErinAoife · 24/11/2023 12:12

No you were not wrong as it is the second time her dog himp on your dog as she cannot control it since not on leas. All dogs should be on lead to avoid this situation

Bigpromotion · 24/11/2023 12:15

Thanks. I have had dogs all my life and I’d never use this as an excuse if any of my dogs had attacked another, I would have been mortified.

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Purplecatshopaholic · 24/11/2023 12:21

I hate hearing about dog owners like this! She’s an idiot. Of course her dogs, and everyone else’s, should be on a lead if she can’t control them/they are not trained, etc. I feel for you op, one of mine is a very anxious boy (I have three rescues) - I would be apoplectic if some irresponsible daft bint let her dog do that to one of mine!

CandyCaneLane0 · 24/11/2023 12:31

She's an idiot, her dog could get seriously hurt if it decides to 'show her dominance' to the wrong dog

mycatsanutter · 24/11/2023 12:31

Stupid woman , if she can't control her dog it shouldn't be off the lead ! Sick of untrained dogs ! I was on the park yesterday and a bloke picked up my dogs ball and passed it to me and said ' you might want to keep hold of that ,my dogs got a thing for balls ' wtf!!!

JollyHostess101 · 24/11/2023 12:36

Bigpromotion · 24/11/2023 12:06

I have had my 3 year old rescue dog for just over a year. He is a very nervous dog due to being abused and locked away for the first year of his life.

With lots of love and patience and working with a behaviourist we are slowly helping him love life.

I am lucky to live semi-rural and walk every day over fields and woodlands. I purposely choose to walk most days around 10-11am and again at 3pm as I know less people are walking at that time. It’s a public accessed area so we do meet people and their dogs I know we can’t have the place to ourselves but in general it’s quite quiet. I keep him on a lead at all times with a bright yellow ‘Nervous Dog’ sign on the lead. Most people and dogs we meet are lovely, they will usually pop their dogs back on the lead if they see us or keep them off the lead if their dogs are very well trained and have good recall, which I have no issues with at all. We often chat and have had no issues with other dogs.

However, back in the summertime we were walking through the woods and a woman jogged passed me with her two dogs. One of her dogs, a young female Lab literally pounced on top of my dog as soon as she came into contact with me, with lots of yelping from my dog and growling from hers.
Thankfully, no broken skin but it left my dog cowering like Cringer in He-man (if anyone else is old enough to remember him? lol!).
Anyhow, the woman had jogged passed, when she heard the commotion she came back. I said ‘Your dog just attacked mine’. She looked bemused and said ‘No no, she wasn’t attacking him. She is female, he is male and she was just showing her dominance!’. I replied ‘Well tell that to him’ and pointed to my poor little dog who by now was trying to clamber up my leg. (Btw, my dog is a Yorkshire terrier/Jack Russell cross so much smaller than the Lab). She just Pfft’d and carried on her way.

Back to this morning, we were just coming out of the same woodland, onto the fields, minding our own business and loe and behold bounding out of the woods is the same lab. No collar, no sign of the owner and as soon as she reaches my dog she sets on him again. I shoved her out of the way and shouted at her to leave. She ran off back into the woods. I managed to see the owner through some bracken and shouted at her that her dog had just attacked mine. She started to give off the same spiel about dominance and I cut her short and told her this was the second time, it was not on and if she can not control her dog then it needs to be on a lead AND a collar.

My dog pulled all the way home and is now cowering in his crate.

It’s not in my nature to shout at random strangers and now I feel a bit bad but I was fuming at the time as it’s the second time. Surely it is simple responsible dog ownership to keep your dog on a leash if they are prone to attacking other dogs?

Your poor dog I hope he’s feeling better now!

we have this all the time- our rescue is rubbish with other dogs so I try an avoid them if out by myself but there’s ONE owner who never has her dog on a lead and always in her phone…… I was 8 month pregnant when this dog jump on our dog and our (on lead) and our dog nipped the other dog…. She then decided she’d come get her dog- and went batshit crazy at me threatening to call the police and followed me for the rest of our walk- I was shouting at her as she’s just not watching her dog and if someone jump on my face I’d lash out too!

Just because their dog is friendly doesn’t mean other dogs are!!

Mrsjayy · 24/11/2023 12:36

Alargeoneplease89 · 24/11/2023 12:09

Show your dominance and jump on her. Honestly that is so horrible and I feel for your poor dog.

this made me laugh. 😂 .People can be a total nightmare regarding their dogs they remind me of "those " parents who think their children can do no wrong.

Whiskeypowers · 24/11/2023 12:37

you absolutely did nothing wrong. I cannot stand dog owners like this they are completely ignorant and have zero control over their dogs.

CatamaranViper · 24/11/2023 12:40

Yikes YANBU OP.

Though perhaps it might be better to actually talk to her next time because she is never going to listen to a random person yelling at her through bracken.
That said, it's not your responsibility to educate people like her.

She definitely is a shite dog owner and she's very lucky her dog hasn't tried to dominate the wrong dog. My dog is incredibly reactive and would have bitten a dog that jumped on him like that, he's very big and strong so I'd say he would win.

If you see her dog again, shout "not friendly" at the top of your lungs, she'll probably react more if she thinks her dog is in danger.

CalistoNoSolo · 24/11/2023 12:43

Are you in the cotswolds? There is a twattish woman near me with labs who fits that description. She's entitled and rude and I once saw her in the local pub reducing her pre-teen daughter to tears over something totally minor. You definitely were not being U, your poor pup. Can you carry some kind of noxious smelling spray (liquid fox shit or similar) so the horrible woman has to put up with her dog stinking the house out for a few days?

momager1 · 24/11/2023 12:47

I cannot stand dog owners like this! I have two soppy standard poodles but honestly their recall could be alot better. They never would go far but another dog would be like a beacon to them, So what we do, what all responsible dog owners SHOULD do, is keep them on leash. Our only exception is on one very remote beach that we have never seen anyone else on. We let them run to their little hearts content there. We moved to the Dominican Republic 8 months ago and brought them here, it is for their own safety that they stay on leash. (street and beach dogs everywhere, and crazy moto drivers)

WonderingAboutBabies · 24/11/2023 13:02

Argh, what an irresponsible owner. It's also illegal to have dogs in public without a collar some sort of identity tag on as well!

Mothership4two · 24/11/2023 13:03

No you were totally in the right. Not surprised you were very upset.

I don't let my (passive) dog approach any dogs that are on a lead and always check with the owners of dogs off lead just in case. She is friendly and likes to greet and play with dogs. I would call her to heal if I saw a dog with a yellow lead.

EvilElsa · 24/11/2023 13:09

Well, you were much more polite than I would have been about it! Especially the second time it happened.

Bigpromotion · 24/11/2023 13:11

CatamaranViper · 24/11/2023 12:40

Yikes YANBU OP.

Though perhaps it might be better to actually talk to her next time because she is never going to listen to a random person yelling at her through bracken.
That said, it's not your responsibility to educate people like her.

She definitely is a shite dog owner and she's very lucky her dog hasn't tried to dominate the wrong dog. My dog is incredibly reactive and would have bitten a dog that jumped on him like that, he's very big and strong so I'd say he would win.

If you see her dog again, shout "not friendly" at the top of your lungs, she'll probably react more if she thinks her dog is in danger.

I did try talking to her the first time but she just talked over me the whole time as though she was some top dog behaviourist and knew it all. Hence the reason for my exasperation today. I’m not usually that volatile but she started talking over me again with the same crap about the dominance thing and I just saw red.

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Bigpromotion · 24/11/2023 13:13

No, I’m in Essex but would much pref to be in the Cotswolds right now.

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Auntiedear · 24/11/2023 13:15

You were not wrong and so what if her dog was "just showing dominance" - I doubt she would be happy if a dog significantly larger than a lab jumped on hers in such a way!

I think the only thing you can do is be hyper vigilant on walks and if you see hers try and intercept before she reaches your dog.

If this had happened with me I doubt I would have been as polite as you!

Bigpromotion · 24/11/2023 13:17

WonderingAboutBabies · 24/11/2023 13:02

Argh, what an irresponsible owner. It's also illegal to have dogs in public without a collar some sort of identity tag on as well!

I thought so, I was going to say that to her but didn’t want to look an idiot if it wasn’t the case but Google tells me that it is indeed an offence not to collar your dog in public. I’ll remember that for next time (although hoping there won’t be a next time).

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Mothership4two · 24/11/2023 13:35

She is clearly an idiot to blather on about dominance to you when your dog is wearing a Nervous Dog warning. Well she is clearly an idiot for a number of reasons not least letting her dog run out of sight and without a collar.

Elastica23 · 24/11/2023 13:42

She should have her dog on a lead and socialise it not to jump on other dogs. You can get leads and belts for running with dogs. I've no problems with people walking or running with well-controlled dogs in the right areas but if they are going to be a problem with other dogs they should not be off the lead.

Strawberrycheesecake7 · 24/11/2023 14:00

You did nothing wrong. My dog loves 90% of other dogs. But he is afraid of very large ones and is reactive to them because he feels he needs to protect himself and me. I always keep him on the lead on walks and we cross the road or go a different way if I see a dog he’s likely to have a problem with. It’s totally inexcusable for this woman to be allowing her dog to approach other dogs when she’s knows the dog might do something like this. Not only is her dog scaring other dogs, she’s going to get hurt when she inevitably jumps on a reactive dog who will fight back.

MargotBamborough · 24/11/2023 14:03

You were not wrong to have a go at her.

sixteenfurryfeet · 24/11/2023 14:12

DH was out for a walk a few years ago and totally unprovoked, a black lab (not on a lead) bit him on the thigh as he walked past. He had to see a doctor, have a course of antibiotics and it was reported to the police as well. The owner shouted at DH and told him it was his fault as her dog didn't like men!

YANBU OP.

Devilsmommy · 24/11/2023 14:26

Alargeoneplease89 · 24/11/2023 12:09

Show your dominance and jump on her. Honestly that is so horrible and I feel for your poor dog.

Definitely this😆 if that was me I'd have given her dog a big kick, you know, to show my dominance. She's a useless twat who shouldn't have dogs if she can't control them

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