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Was I in the wrong to have had a go at this woman?

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Bigpromotion · 24/11/2023 12:06

I have had my 3 year old rescue dog for just over a year. He is a very nervous dog due to being abused and locked away for the first year of his life.

With lots of love and patience and working with a behaviourist we are slowly helping him love life.

I am lucky to live semi-rural and walk every day over fields and woodlands. I purposely choose to walk most days around 10-11am and again at 3pm as I know less people are walking at that time. It’s a public accessed area so we do meet people and their dogs I know we can’t have the place to ourselves but in general it’s quite quiet. I keep him on a lead at all times with a bright yellow ‘Nervous Dog’ sign on the lead. Most people and dogs we meet are lovely, they will usually pop their dogs back on the lead if they see us or keep them off the lead if their dogs are very well trained and have good recall, which I have no issues with at all. We often chat and have had no issues with other dogs.

However, back in the summertime we were walking through the woods and a woman jogged passed me with her two dogs. One of her dogs, a young female Lab literally pounced on top of my dog as soon as she came into contact with me, with lots of yelping from my dog and growling from hers.
Thankfully, no broken skin but it left my dog cowering like Cringer in He-man (if anyone else is old enough to remember him? lol!).
Anyhow, the woman had jogged passed, when she heard the commotion she came back. I said ‘Your dog just attacked mine’. She looked bemused and said ‘No no, she wasn’t attacking him. She is female, he is male and she was just showing her dominance!’. I replied ‘Well tell that to him’ and pointed to my poor little dog who by now was trying to clamber up my leg. (Btw, my dog is a Yorkshire terrier/Jack Russell cross so much smaller than the Lab). She just Pfft’d and carried on her way.

Back to this morning, we were just coming out of the same woodland, onto the fields, minding our own business and loe and behold bounding out of the woods is the same lab. No collar, no sign of the owner and as soon as she reaches my dog she sets on him again. I shoved her out of the way and shouted at her to leave. She ran off back into the woods. I managed to see the owner through some bracken and shouted at her that her dog had just attacked mine. She started to give off the same spiel about dominance and I cut her short and told her this was the second time, it was not on and if she can not control her dog then it needs to be on a lead AND a collar.

My dog pulled all the way home and is now cowering in his crate.

It’s not in my nature to shout at random strangers and now I feel a bit bad but I was fuming at the time as it’s the second time. Surely it is simple responsible dog ownership to keep your dog on a leash if they are prone to attacking other dogs?

OP posts:
Bigpromotion · 24/11/2023 14:27

sixteenfurryfeet ffs! What the hell is going on with some dog owners, people were never this stupid, I’m sure of it.

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Mothership4two · 24/11/2023 14:34

I'd be tempted to walk dog with a water pistol full of harmless but unpleasant liquid to spray at dog's head in future.

Sartre · 24/11/2023 14:40

YANBU. The other woman should have her dogs on leads if they’re pouncing on other dogs. She also shouldn’t be letting them roam off out of sight.

CrotchetyQuaver · 24/11/2023 14:52

No YWNBU. I've had to speak to someone about similar with their dog before. Having chatted with other dog walkers I had learnt her dog went for theirs as well, it definitely wasn't a one off. So the next time it happened to my little rescue, I had words and firmly told her if it happened again and her dog was off the lead I wouldn't hesitate to take whatever action I felt was necessary. Nobody ever saw her again, I guess she started taking it somewhere else.

Delatron · 24/11/2023 15:01

This seems to be par for the course now unfortunately. I have a reactive/fearful dog on a lead with a bright yellow sign. The amount of out of control dogs that come up and bother him (and he invariably growls and reacts) is increasing all the time.

Sets him right back after all the work I do with him. I shout ‘call your dog’ but the bottom line is dog owners just don’t care these days. It’s rare if any even put their dogs back on lead when they see mine. They are usually paying zero attention. Keep shouting and advocating for your dog but it’s such a pain.

DreamingofGinoclock · 24/11/2023 15:08

I'm guessing she is also the type of dog owner who doesn't pick up her dogs poo.... I'm fed up of how much is left on the pavements round here ...I've had to clean dog poo off of the bottom of my daughter's shoes twice this week despite doing our best to keep an eye out! 😡

Frasers · 24/11/2023 15:11

I dunno op. You knew what the answers would be when you wrote this, it’s clear in the way you wrote it, so why the need for validation?

DevonMum2Be · 24/11/2023 15:45

We get this all the time unfortunately. DDog is quite a nervous girl, although she loves a bounce around with other dogs she’s got to know.

We were out on a walk with her on her lead, and an off-lead dog charged up to her, barking and snapping. Its owner ambled along behind it and said ‘oh sorry, he’s a rescue so he gives other dogs a hard time’ 😮😖

When I pointed out that, in that case, he should be on a lead and that DDog and I had been on a training walk, she also had the cheek to ask if I could train hers too.

thequeenoftarts · 24/11/2023 15:56

I don't usually suggest this but since it has happened more than once I would carry a stick on walks and next time it happens give the dog a smack on the bum with it, and if other dog lady complains, tell her you are just showing your dominance to her dog, and she will be next if she doesn't control her blooming dog. Silly mare that she is, she might just take the hint then

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 24/11/2023 16:08

YANBU. She's not fit to have a dog. She clearly can't control it or I think the correct statement is She can't be arsed to control it.
My dog absolutely adores people but she hates other dogs.
Therefore she's on a lead at all times and never out of my sight.

Its not only about what she could do it also about what they could do to her.

NewbieTwentyFour · 24/11/2023 16:38

YANBU at all, OP. I hope your dog is OK now!

CormorantStrikesBack · 24/11/2023 16:50

She is a totally irresponsible owner and her dog should not be behaving like this.

however as the owner of an ex nervous dog who used to literally scream in fright I’d say you need to try and change the situation. You can’t sadly prevent such approach but try and change your reaction. So I started getting myself between my dog and the approaching one and make a real fuss of it. Greet it like a long lost friend in proper high pitched excited voice. Try and physically grab if possible but giving it lots of fuss rather than just holding it. It takes the dog’s attention from your dog to you. Slows the whole situation down, making it less scary for your dog. Your dog will eventually take its lead from you.

I agree you shouldn’t have to but I decided it was the best method to reassure my dog.

Bigpromotion · 24/11/2023 19:24

Delatron · 24/11/2023 15:01

This seems to be par for the course now unfortunately. I have a reactive/fearful dog on a lead with a bright yellow sign. The amount of out of control dogs that come up and bother him (and he invariably growls and reacts) is increasing all the time.

Sets him right back after all the work I do with him. I shout ‘call your dog’ but the bottom line is dog owners just don’t care these days. It’s rare if any even put their dogs back on lead when they see mine. They are usually paying zero attention. Keep shouting and advocating for your dog but it’s such a pain.

It is beyond frustrating isn’t it? It has set my dog back today, he’s been very subdued and clingy, all because some idiot couldn’t be arsed to control her dog.

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Bigpromotion · 24/11/2023 19:34

CormorantStrikesBack · 24/11/2023 16:50

She is a totally irresponsible owner and her dog should not be behaving like this.

however as the owner of an ex nervous dog who used to literally scream in fright I’d say you need to try and change the situation. You can’t sadly prevent such approach but try and change your reaction. So I started getting myself between my dog and the approaching one and make a real fuss of it. Greet it like a long lost friend in proper high pitched excited voice. Try and physically grab if possible but giving it lots of fuss rather than just holding it. It takes the dog’s attention from your dog to you. Slows the whole situation down, making it less scary for your dog. Your dog will eventually take its lead from you.

I agree you shouldn’t have to but I decided it was the best method to reassure my dog.

To date, my dog has had no issues with other dogs because most other dog owners we meet are responsible owners and either have good recall or have their dogs on leads and can control them. This is the only dog we have had a problem with. Of course he is going to scream in fright with a larger dog charging towards him, pushing him onto the ground, standing over him and sinking it’s teeth into his back. Not only once but twice within a few months!
And I couldn’t grab the dog even if I wanted to because the dog never wears a collar.
Carry on with your approach if you wish but I’m certainly not going to risk getting bitten thank you very much, that’s a no from me.

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Moonlightdust · 24/11/2023 20:07

She sounds like an entitled idiot OP.

mathanxiety · 24/11/2023 20:11

YANBU

Her dog is not under any sort of control and if she feels the need to 'show her dominance' to every dog she encounters (which is likely the case) then she has a massive behaviour problem.

CormorantStrikesBack · 24/11/2023 20:41

Sure was only a suggestion, only trying to help. If you don’t think it will work then don’t do it. My dog also wasn’t nervous until after one such incident and then she became nervous.

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