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Honestly, do you judge people who live in council estates?

187 replies

Dotcheck · 11/11/2023 15:13

So, I live in my own home on a council estate. I’m well educated, and have always worked in a job which requires a degree + a post graduate qualification, but is poorly paid.
I’m grateful I own my own home. I’m divorced, never remarried so moving hasn’t been an option.
After my divorce, I bought my ex husband out, but qualified for a mortgage by the skin of my teeth. I believe I’m really lucky- many people can’t afford to buy their own home, and in many places in the world, people live in awful conditions.
However, I recently changed jobs and I’m now in a place which has more ‘middle class’ people. I hate those sorts of designations but there we are.
I’ve heard so many people make off handed comments about council estates and the people who live there. Although I do feel grateful to have my own home, I’m heartbroken/ furious that my children may be judged for where they come from.
So- do you judge? Or have you had those experiences?

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Smartiepants79 · 11/11/2023 16:46

If they take care of their property and are reasonably well behaved citizens then no, I don’t judge.

User0000009 · 11/11/2023 16:46

My sons grew up on a Council estate. One now runs his own business and one is working for a well-known corporation in London. It’s not where you live it’s how you live. The snobbery around who lives where is off the scale in certain circles at the moment. Just be happy ffs. Life is short

WrongSwanson · 11/11/2023 16:48

User0000009 · 11/11/2023 16:46

My sons grew up on a Council estate. One now runs his own business and one is working for a well-known corporation in London. It’s not where you live it’s how you live. The snobbery around who lives where is off the scale in certain circles at the moment. Just be happy ffs. Life is short

It's interesting though that you chose their professional status /success to indicate their worth?

Just being nice /kind /fun etc is what I value people for.

PinkyDinkyDoodle · 11/11/2023 16:49

I don’t judge people in social housing or council estates.

I judge our Government for not building enough of them.

Redebs · 11/11/2023 16:50

Saschka · 11/11/2023 16:14

Out of interest, why? You might judge the original tenants who bought them in the 80s, but by this point they are just part of the normal housing stock. It’s not like if you don’t buy it, the owner will hand it back to the council.

Once it's been bought, it's no longer a council house. I meant those actually buying them from the local authority.

gamerchick · 11/11/2023 16:52

Smartiepants79 · 11/11/2023 16:46

If they take care of their property and are reasonably well behaved citizens then no, I don’t judge.

If they owned and didn't 'behave' it would be a different set of feels would it?

I only find the weird feelz about council housing on here. People NEED to look down on something, it's fascinating. Even if they're paying double or triple in rents. They still think they're superior to SH people.... Until they can't afford it and think SH peeps should move aside for them that is.

User0000009 · 11/11/2023 16:53

WrongSwanson · 11/11/2023 16:48

It's interesting though that you chose their professional status /success to indicate their worth?

Just being nice /kind /fun etc is what I value people for.

It was in response to previous posters saying their kids are friends with “council house” kids. Wtf and who do they think they are

KittyKingdom · 11/11/2023 16:54

I don’t think there’s any such thing as a council estate anymore. Most of the old council properties have been sold and the new ones are built in new build estates I can’t remember exactly the percentage but I think it’s something like every ten new build properties there has to be one or two council or housing association. Mulberry homes were talking to us about it at least a year ago so it’s been going on for some time. Maybe you might get some snobbery from old people that don’t know how it works but do you really care about the people that judge people through snobbery born from lack of achievement in life.

FortunataTagnips · 11/11/2023 16:55

Not at all. I just feel outraged that so few families are able to access social housing these days.

hattie43 · 11/11/2023 16:57

For me it's not the housing it's the anti social behaviour and some of the tenants that are the problem . I work with a really nice guy at work and him and his wife are on the verge of nervous breakdown over the next door neighbours .

rockinginarockingchair · 11/11/2023 16:57

I live in a council home always have.
I once lived on the posh side of town in a council home and after 5 long years i finally got a move on to the local housing estate.
Its all mix some privet some own etc.
But i was soooo happy to move from the posh side new builds.
My neighbours were awful and looked down on anyone.

Its peaceful where i live now im surrounded with trees and birds it an old build
No one cares what you do no one sticking their hoot in being nosey it is bliss.
Every estate is different but i love mine i keep to myself i talk to my neighbours when i see them around here people just get on with life.
Been here years now i dont judge anyone where they live.

vernatheraven · 11/11/2023 16:59

I grew up on a council estate.

I live on one now.

Everywhere has council tenants these days, even if you don't know who they are.

I don't judge anyone who lives in one for living there.

Except the people who live on them and don't give a shit. And by this I mean we have one women who is a nuisance in that she has parties all the time, drug dealers pulling up at all hours (I can hear the conversations so I know it's Coke) and her fucking guests vomiting in the street and into her front garden.

Do what you like but be considerate of others in your street.

So yeah I judge people like that who live on them but not for living there, for being a fucking nuisance to all of us who have to listen to it.

Oblomov23 · 11/11/2023 17:03

In our town there are many many ex council houses now privately owned. They are well built and good, so not to be scorned at.

ToBeOrNotToBee · 11/11/2023 17:04

No I don't. I live on one and have done my whole life. I work full time, have a masters, work in the public sector and would not be able to afford to live alone without my social housing.

Hilariously, people think I'm not 'one of those' and will quite happily slag off council estate residents until I interject and tell them I'm one of those they are looking down on.

Not even a fortnight ago I was on a residential course with around 9 other colleagues, all similar jobs and income to me so not exactly loaded but they all were older, homeowners etc, and in different parts of the country. They were talking about the athletes who were stopped by the police, and the police officers were found to have lied and were basically racist. One of the colleagues was very supportive of the 2 police officers and said that the stop was perfectly fine because what on earth were they doing driving around Hackney in an expensive car. Colleague wasn't best pleased when I had to remind him that most of Hackey houses now go for 1 mill plus and even ex councils are 500,000, so why would he not expect to see a BMW?
Queue smirks, and uncomfortable silences, but I don't care, these idiots need to feel uncomfortable with their prejudices.

ShinyAppleDreamingOfTheSea · 11/11/2023 17:04

There are some rough estates (tower blocks) near me where I wouldn't want to live myself but I can't say I would judge the people who live there . In fact I don't quite understand why people would do that .

My own house is ex-council on a nice estate which is now part owned / part council - but I wouldn't think differently about the people who live as council tenants. My friend's daughter was lucky enough to get a two bedroom council house with her daughter - and that is literally how I see it. Previously she and her partner lived in a rented run down flat, she moved back home when they split and then applied to the council - how lucky was she to obtain a secure tenancy in a two bedroom home .

We could have afforded to have graded up years ago but we prefer to have the luxury of extra cash for non-essentials. There is a brilliant community feel to where I live as well .

Escapetofrance · 11/11/2023 17:04

I don’t judge people who live in council housing. I wish there was more to house people in who need it.

SirChenjins · 11/11/2023 17:10

No, I don’t judge people who live on council estates at all - although I do get a bit Hmm at some posts on a regional women’s Facebook group I’m on from people who are incensed that the council not housing them in the same village or town as their family. There’s usually a lot agreeing about how terrible the council is for not providing them with such a house and suggestions for who they should take it to (local councillors usually) and why (say you’ve got mental health issues as a result of having to get a bus to see your mum). There’s a massive shortage of council houses, but apparently the council can magic them out of thin air. I probably do judge that a bit if I’m honest.

The problem is they’re not building anything like the number of council houses that are needed and the private developers have far too much power.

Baffledandalarmed · 11/11/2023 17:14

I grew up in an ex-council house - lots of houses were and are still council houses on that road.

Tbh the majority of people who lived there were lovely. Just a few of the typical 'scummy' types...but then I know plenty of people who own their own homes who I think are scum.

So no, I wouldn't judge. But I think people would assume I would judge (based off my life now) and would also assume I didn't grow up in an ex-council house.

Vettrianofan · 11/11/2023 17:16

Ex council house, mortgage cleared ages ago so mortgage free. No I don't notice any stigma.

Stroopwaffels · 11/11/2023 17:17

Judge no.

Choose to live there when I had the option to live in another place, also no.

WrongSwanson · 11/11/2023 17:22

User0000009 · 11/11/2023 16:53

It was in response to previous posters saying their kids are friends with “council house” kids. Wtf and who do they think they are

Ah, I see why that got your back up!

Lesina · 11/11/2023 17:23

No because I am not a judgemental twat.

Museum1066 · 11/11/2023 17:24

It varied some would some don't

ALongHardWinter · 11/11/2023 17:24

I have definitely noticed snobbery towards council tenants. I've lived in a council property for 40 years now,and the first time I encountered this attitude was when we'd been living here for about 3 years. A friend of mine had just got engaged,and they were discussing buying a property. She said 'Maybe we could apply for a council place?' He replied 'Over my dead body am I living in a council house', obviously forgetting that I was a council tenant. More recently,a friend of mine was going on about his mum's awful neighbours. He said "Oh well,I suppose it's to be expected on a council estate'. When I reminded him that I lived on a council estate',he said 'Well,there are always exceptions'. 🤔

LearnFromMyMistakes · 11/11/2023 17:26

When l was younger l lived on a council estate.
I'll never forget when l was about 18 years old we were driving home from somewhere and a friend of my boyfriends pipes up about a girl he liked living on a council estate, he seemed really surprised by it and made some negative comments and l felt so embarrassed and ashamed. My boyfriend at that time was trying to shut him up, his friend didn't realise l also lived on a council estate.
I went on to work in an office where most had been privately educated and had a different accent to me, one of the ladies in the office was kind enough to give me a lift home and l always used to say drop me off at the corner shop please as l didn't want her to know where l lived and l hate that about myself when l look back.
Now it wouldn't bother me and if it bothered others l wouldn't want to associate with them.
But l know not everyone judges, my sister is a postwoman and delivers to a very nice village where the houses are really expensive, she said that one of the women said something along the lines that although they can afford cleaners, gardeners, Nannies etc, you tend to find most people on council estates seem happier.

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