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What was England like in late 1998/early 1999?

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breaksinthedayforyou · 07/11/2023 00:38

Interested to know.

I am a late 90s baby and can't believe that was now over 25 years ago Smile

One of my earliest memories is going into Woolworths in Poplar. I was in a buggy and remember feeling cold

It randomly occurred to me that 1998, my birth year, is going to sound ancient to my own grandchildren/great grandchildren. Much like my great grandmother shocking my mum years ago by being born 'in the 1800s' 😃

OP posts:
OlderandwiserMaybe · 07/11/2023 10:05

I'd just got married in 1998.
I didn't have a mobile phone - but my husband had a Nokia 3210.
He played games using dial up internet. No such thing as Wifi or social media. Photos still had to be developed from a camera.
I think a few years earlier SKY + had revolutionised the way we watched TV by being able to pause and rewind and record series so easily.
Everyone was panicking thinking planes would fall out the sky due to the "Millennium Bug"

Mrburnshound · 07/11/2023 10:08

sen provision was really bad. I remember a police man came in to do a talk and the teacher picked a 9 ish yo boy who in retrospect had ASD, got the policeman to handcuff him to a table leg and everyone laughed as he cried (inc the teachers!!!!) This was more 1995 😥

GonnaGetGoingReturns · 07/11/2023 10:09

I was mid to late 20s.

Work was easier to find.

We had mobiles but only for texts/ringing people. Email was fairly new too.

It did seem much happier, relaxed and safer.

CesareBorgia · 07/11/2023 10:12

Photos still had to be developed from a camera

There were digital cameras but they were in their infancy - very low-resolution. and super-expensive, and associated software was also in its infancy so you couldn't do much with the pictures other than print them.

Manadou · 07/11/2023 10:13

HilaryThorpe · 07/11/2023 10:04

My first memory of the internet was as an IT Advisory Teacher in 1988. We had TTNS (The Times Network System) and managed to connect one of our secondary schools with a secondary school in France, who I think must have been using Minitel.
We had internet at home from the early part of the decade, but it was very slow dial-up until we got cable with NTL by the late 1990s. We were both working in IT, DH since 1972.

@HilaryThorpe

We had internet at home from the early part of the decade, but it was very slow dial-up until we got cable with NTL by the late 1990s. We were both working in IT, DH since 1972.

Had Telewest cable installed Feb 2001 as soon as it was available in our area. My first computer was an Acorn Atom in 1981 and then a Sinclair ZX81 in 1983 followed by a QL of very fond memory in 1985. I was the only woman I knew (still am!) that taught herself to write 6502 assembly language.

The first computer I ever actually saw was a Leo III/19 on a school trip.

madeinmanc · 07/11/2023 10:13

Sending a text was expensive as I recall, 30 or 50p, but as teenagers that didn't stop us! I think I found one of my old mobile bills once and it was astronomical!

GonnaGetGoingReturns · 07/11/2023 10:14

Magicpaintbrush · 07/11/2023 07:56

I was 20/21 at the time and maybe it's rose tinted glasses talking but my God it was better. Notably because although we had mobile phones they were only used for texting and calls, there was no internet on them. No social media or apps. It was simpler, better, happier. Public services were in better shape, there were more post offices and libraries. Music was great, pubs and bars were absolutely buzzing and full to the brim from thurs-sun. I was getting lots of lovely clothes from Bay Trading, Jane Norman and Topshop. We still had shops like Allders, The Pier, Woolworths, Athena...I could go on and on, the high street was brilliant. It was the hey day of rom coms, Sandra Bullock movies, and Friends was at its peak. The world felt simpler and happier and more hopeful. The Naughties felt similar to begin with. I genuinely believe that without the internet/mobile phones and social media we would all be happier and the geberation of kids we have now wouldn't be ridden with anxiety and mental health problems and/or feral and giving their teachers hell. We opened Pandora's box and can't close it now. I would go back to 1998 in a heartbeat - it was cheaper to live back then too.

I’ve just saw you mentioned Allders so you must have lived or known where I’m from in Kent/Surrey.

Shopping was much more of a thing but we had lots of independent shops too.

madeinmanc · 07/11/2023 10:18

If you wanted to see a doctor you just phoned, they would answer it (no message or phone tree) and offer you a time without even asking why, and that appointment time would usually be within the week or so! 😲😔

Idratherbepaddleboarding · 07/11/2023 10:18

In 1998, I was 12 and was at boarding school while my dad worked abroad. I had posters of Aaron Carter (RIP), Matthew Perry (RIP) and the Backstreet boys all over my notice board and the obligatory Groovy Chick duvet cover.

We’d rush back from lessons to watch Neighbours and Home and Away before supper and I was introduced to Friends which I think was at the end of series 4/ beginning of series 5 (so at its peak). We’d also watch SMTV on Saturday mornings.

I got my first CD player that year but only had about 3 CDs as they were expensive for an album (£10-£12) and we’d tape other songs off the radio and dance around our dorm. We were obsessed with Baby One More Time and trying to dance like Britney 😂.

I’d communicate with my parents by letter or they’d call the matrons office occasionally. There was a pay phone in the basement but I’d rather spend my pocket money on 10p mixes and Panda Pops so we used the pay phone to make prank calls to Childline 🙈 and ring the talking clock 🤷‍♀️.

In 1999, my dad took voluntary redundancy and my family returned home so I had to go to the local school where I was bullied relentlessly for having a ‘weird’ accent.

My dad bought my mum her first mobile phone that summer from a stand at an air show. Having been abroad and at boarding school, I’d had no idea such things existed! My mum wasn’t sure she’d use one but my dad told her she could keep it in the car in case of an emergency 😂. At my new school, mobile phones were all the rage and I got my first Nokia 3210 for Christmas that year.

My mum bought a gold mini and would put my little brother’s car seat in the front and then the other 3 of us children would squish into the back with a seat belt round 2 of us and one for the lucky child 😂. If my grandma was travelling with us (in the bigger car), she could never figure out the ‘click’ as she called it so would hold the seat belt in place around her 😂🙈.

Days out included taking Grandma for “a drive” and “going visiting” where we’d go around my Dad’s family’s houses and he’d get out and knock on to see if they were in. If they were, we’d all go in. You couldn’t do that nowadays due to the price of petrol! There was no calling in advance. Primark has just rebranded itself as cheap but fashionable (instead of just cheap!) and it was very exciting to go to the city to visit Primark. I got a pair of baggy combat pants and a teeny vest top which was the coolest thing ever!

We did have a computer in the living room with dial up internet that you had to turn off if someone needed to make a phone call. Phone calls were free for an hour after 6pm, so you’d wait til then and hang up after 59 mins and redial. Computer lessons involved using search engines (Yahoo or Ask Jeeves) to look for whatever you wanted and it opened up a whole new world of information.

It was good, much simpler times except for the school situation.

StiffyByngsDogBartholomew · 07/11/2023 10:24

Estermay · 07/11/2023 09:42

Sp most people did not use the Internet in 1998. The majority did not.

There was also barely anything on the internet in 1998. It was unrecognisable from the internet we have today where everything is online

madeinmanc · 07/11/2023 10:27

Older women looked different too, they often had set hairdos ("set" means it was fixed by the hairdresser with a solution into tight curls that didn't move) that were all very similar and they wore similar clothes, I can't remember exactly but long skirts etc. This would have been the look for women that we would consider relatively young/not old these days! I don't know why that was the case 🤔

InAndOutOfTheRedBalloon · 07/11/2023 10:29

From a personal point of view, it was glorious. I met DH at the end of 1997 and moved from Middlesex to Gloucestershire when we got engaged in 1998, aged 24. Previously, I'd been living in a house share with 4 schoolfriends, we were all working / training in professional jobs and thought we were living This Life.

When I moved to be with DH, I took a paycut of 1/3 to move to a regional office of an accountancy firm, and could still afford to live and save for a wedding. We went to France without even thinking about it, really, that summer. So easy.

We got married in 1999 and bought a 2 bed flat while I was still earning £13k, our mortgage was £340 a month. DH was part of the dot com bubble and had home internet from when I met him, albeit dialup. Our first joint computer cost £1,000.

It was brilliant partly because we were young, in love, solvent with disposable income and only had ourselves to please.

On the other hand, the world had felt so hopeful since the labour landslide in 1997. You could see things were genuinely getting better for the poorest and most disavdantaged in society, there were fewer rough sleepers, more support for early childhood. Whatever one thinks of Gordon Brown as a PM, as Chancellor I felt we had someone who knew how ecomonies worked, rather than just funnelling money where it has always gone i.e. into private fat cats' pockets. There was a Democrat in the White House, with every expectation of another one at the next Presidential Election; the Good Friday Peace Agreement was brokered and the need to be watchful in public areas in cities was gone. The Twenty First Century was coming, and it was going to be GREAT.

StiffyByngsDogBartholomew · 07/11/2023 10:29

madeinmanc · 07/11/2023 10:02

I think a good analogy would be with apps; you might expect a much older person to not be au fait with using apps now (but then again they might be but just relying on a stereotype here), but young people are immersed in them. Similarly, in the late 90s young people used the internet all the time but it was a mystery world for others, especially older people.

On the other hand there were older people who were forced into use of the internet through their jobs so my Grandad was very familiar with it right from the beginning, for example, which doesn't happen these days with TikTok, for example.

Edited

You do realise that the vast majority of us were young in the late 1990s. I was in my early 20s, young, free, single and living in staff accommodation with other early 20 somethings. We all had plenty of cash. The internet was definitely not on our radar.

Usernamen · 07/11/2023 10:29

madeinmanc · 07/11/2023 10:13

Sending a text was expensive as I recall, 30 or 50p, but as teenagers that didn't stop us! I think I found one of my old mobile bills once and it was astronomical!

I cringe when I think of how much I spent on CDs, £10-12 for an album and I had hundreds!

Now I pay £10 a month for unlimited streaming on Spotify. So some things are better now, I suppose!

CloudPop · 07/11/2023 10:31

VivienneDelacroix · 07/11/2023 00:53

They were the glory days OP. New Labour (before Blair became a war mongering puppet to America), Cool Brittania, YBAs - it was the best of times (not at all biased due to the fact I was 22 with the world at my feet and no responsibilities other than to myself).

Completely agree

madeinmanc · 07/11/2023 10:32

There was not "nothing on the internet" and I'm not wrong, if you personally came to it late that's just you. Here is proof:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/archive/christmas_internet_shopping/zj9shbk

Internet Christmas shopping, 1999

BBC, Christmas, shopping, commerce, internet, Amazon

https://www.bbc.co.uk/archive/christmas_internet_shopping/zj9shbk

MrsSkylerWhite · 07/11/2023 10:32

Optimistic and hopeful.

CesareBorgia · 07/11/2023 10:35

StiffyByngsDogBartholomew · 07/11/2023 10:24

There was also barely anything on the internet in 1998. It was unrecognisable from the internet we have today where everything is online

Relatively speaking, but things like the MSN chatrooms were extremely lively nonetheless. America was ahead of the UK in internet adoption, and they had 'toll free' local calls so they could stay online via dial-up for as long as they liked in an era when this would have run up a phone bill in the UK - so there was a higher proportion of Americans relative to other nationalities.

EBay and Amazon were also up and running by 1998. Folk like me suddenly finding obscure books and music we'd scoured shops/fairs/paper catalogues for for years was available at the press of a button.

GunpowderGuido · 07/11/2023 10:37

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 07/11/2023 09:41

Really? https://www.statista.com/statistics/289201/household-internet-connection-in-the-uk/

I'm casting my mind back to that time and the majority of people we knew did not have the internet at home. As mentioned by many on this thread, some jobs involved using the internet, many didn't. Smartphones hadn't been invented.

How interesting!

I had home internet in 1999 and it's odd to see I was just one of 19% of home with it.

In around 2003/4 I remember drilling a hole in the ceiling so I could pass the ethernet cable up through to upstairs and get internet upstairs! I felt very posh! Grin

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 07/11/2023 10:38

Estermay · 07/11/2023 09:38

Agree there was no minimum wage. In real terms the lowest wages were less than today. No working tax credit for childless people.
It was a better time because of the hope. But remember a lot of MN come from well off families with good jobs.

Blair and Brown brought in the minimum wage.

DrCoconut · 07/11/2023 10:38

It's good to see that other people remember optimism and hope as the vibe of that era. It was a very bleak time in my life due to a bad relationship but I had DS and the general feeling socially was far less negative than now. Things were better for ordinary people without a lot of money.

GunpowderGuido · 07/11/2023 10:42

Yes - the optimisim was a big thing. I came from a family that definately wasn't well off, but it just seemed like everything was OK and would only get better from then on.

I also agree with PP: the 9/11 attacks stand out in my mind as the point at which that really started to change. Suddenly the world felt much more dangerous.

CesareBorgia · 07/11/2023 10:42

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 07/11/2023 10:38

Blair and Brown brought in the minimum wage.

I was on £3.50 an hour in my first job in the mid-90s - equivalent to about £7 today, so considerably less than the equivalent of min-wage today.

Its5656 · 07/11/2023 10:56

I was 19, worked and went to college in Greenwich London.
The music was great and the clubs/raves were amazing.
Hardly anyone used a mobile but some of my friends used pagers.
I knew a few people still living in poverty but it seemed to be better in regards to social housing ect than the 80s
I remember the misogyny being really bad.. it seemed common place to let 16 year olds into pubs and clubs (which I thought was brilliant) but the downside to that was it was also the norm for middle aged men to have a crack.
Also don't know if this has changed but I also remember as a teen in the 90s that Ecstasy and Coke were everywhere.
The thing I miss most though... My wash board stomach and Cadbury spira bars.

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