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Will you be wearing a poppy?

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thingsthatmakeyougohmmmmmmmm · 29/10/2023 20:00

To support the work that the Royal British Legion do.

Nobody around here seems to be wearing one.

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ImNotReallySpartacus · 30/10/2023 09:59

thingsthatmakeyougohmmmmmmmm · 29/10/2023 20:00

To support the work that the Royal British Legion do.

Nobody around here seems to be wearing one.

It's not even November yet!

AGovernmentOfLawsAndNotMen · 30/10/2023 10:02

wesurecouldstandgladioli · 30/10/2023 07:45

Actually, if you scroll back, @Canthave2manycats has has has several posts deleted. She has been very offensive on the thread.

It did get very heated. I agree,
Thats not the issue.
The issue is that she was accused of suicide comments.
She made no reference or inference of suicide.

Thats why PP was baffled and upset at the accusation

Mouse82 · 30/10/2023 10:15

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 30/10/2023 09:48

Neither do l. I don’t know anyone who does.

Plenty still stand in Australia.

Twillow · 30/10/2023 10:19

SnapdragonToadflax · 29/10/2023 20:14

No, I don't believe in wearing a poppy. I feel the campaign glorifies war and those who (choose to) fight now, rather than adhering to the original feeling of 'Never again'.

I would wear a white poppy but I can't be arsed to have arguments.

Edited

Same here, the whole thing makes me very uncomfortable. 'Never again' worked well, didn't it...

SerafinasGoose · 30/10/2023 10:23

Well. This thread (predictably) disintegrated fast. There are a lot of interesting, considered comments but as to the more vehement posters who have been monopolosing the later part of the thread, a novel suggestion. Why not live and let live? If you want to wear a poppy, wear one. If you don't, don't.

Demanding of absteiners in morally indignant tones 'What is fucking wrong with you?', as at least one particularly aggressive poster does above, or accusations of conformist virtue-signalling from the poppy-wearers on the other side, are not going to convince anyone around to your point of view. People have minds of their own. The suggestion that environmental concerns are a 'pathetic excuse' is also particularly ignorant and inflammatory. This is a legitimate concern and no one needs 'excuses' to justify their personal decisions to anyone.

So someone's made a different decision to our own for whatever reason. What of it? They're simply exercising their entitlement to that choice.

It isn't a personal affront.

SunlightOverBamburgh · 30/10/2023 10:28

Yes. I bought a knitted one the other day I don't get on with the paper ones that never stay on, no matter how hard I try pinning them.

I do respect the rights of people to not wear them though. The wonderful thing is we live in a free land where we don't have to wear them if we don't want to.

3dogsandarabbit · 30/10/2023 10:30

I wear a poppy every year. Why do people think it's been taken over by the Far Right? I don't think it has.

Remembering1944 · 30/10/2023 10:31

I will because to me, it's about remembrance. I don't mind if people don't want to wear one, but I would hope it's a conscious and well informed choice either way. I'm a saddened if it's seen as jumping on some sort of bandwagon and I'm equally saddened if it's not seen as relevant today.

I've recently received copies of the war records of a relative who died in WW2. Can you imagine sitting at home for four years whilst your husband is away with these letters intermittently arriving out of the blue onto the doormat. And then the final, dreadful letter. This is why I choose to remember, not just those that died, but everyone who lived through it too.

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Grumpyoldpersonwithcats · 30/10/2023 10:32

My parents both served in the RAF in WW2. My father was captured at the fall of Singapore and was a POW for the rest of the war. My grandfathers both fought in the trenches in WW1.
I wear a poppy mainly because it makes me think about their lives, (and partly because I sing in a church choir at the annual Remembrance service where a poppy is expected.)
I don't judge anyone who does or doesn't wear one.

Petrine · 30/10/2023 10:34

Parker231 · 30/10/2023 08:42

You don’t need to wear a poppy for a couple of weeks a year to remember their deaths

I don't need a poppy to remember them which is why I can write here on mumsnet testifying to the fact that they're there... not a poppy in sight.

They are not related to me nor are the hundreds of thousands of other young men who perished... I remember them because I am grateful for their sacrifice.

I will be wearing a poppy

ismu · 30/10/2023 10:34

Well @3dogsandarabbit you're maybe fortunate enough to live somewhere where this isn't an issue, but a look at our local Facebook group would tell you otherwise.

SunlightOverBamburgh · 30/10/2023 10:38

I must admit I have never seen the far right connection and I am currently living in an area where there are some EDL activists. That isn't to say it isn't there.

Glenthebattleostrich · 30/10/2023 10:39

Of course I will. It's not glorifying war, it's remembering those who have given their lives so people can spout such rubbish freely.

Many in my family have served in various wars so I see the work our amazing military charities do firsthand unfortunately. For example, the therapy for my friend who helped clear mass graves in the Balkans as part of his peace keeping duties.

CuntRYMusicStar · 30/10/2023 10:43

I always do, I buy an enamel pin badge every year and wear it with pride from November 1st.

At the going down of the sun. And in the morning. We will remember them.

We attend church for the Remembrance Day service too, the children have attended since they were 2.

BIossomtoes · 30/10/2023 10:44

We’re a military family. It would never occur to me not to wear a poppy.

muchalover · 30/10/2023 10:45

No. I am a veteran but don't agree with the RBL. It seems to exist for it's own benefit and pays enormous wages for some but relies on volunteers and fund raising. It has huge amounts of money in property and I don't think it supports people enough or fights the causes of war and poverty. Far too many veterans homeless and RBL could easily afford hostels across the country.

rcat74 · 30/10/2023 10:50

You might be glad of the British Military one day! Fast approaching by the looks of things. Army wife, grandchild of people who served in World War One and ex service person myself so yes I will absolutely be wearing one.

Tessisme · 30/10/2023 10:52

Thank you for sharing those letters @Remembering1944. They are both fascinating and heartbreaking to read. It must have been truly awful to receive such devastating news in the form of a short, factual letter. Not that there is ever a pleasant way to receive such news.

SerafinasGoose · 30/10/2023 10:53

Glenthebattleostrich · 30/10/2023 10:39

Of course I will. It's not glorifying war, it's remembering those who have given their lives so people can spout such rubbish freely.

Many in my family have served in various wars so I see the work our amazing military charities do firsthand unfortunately. For example, the therapy for my friend who helped clear mass graves in the Balkans as part of his peace keeping duties.

They are not 'spouting rubbish'. They've come to a different conclusion from your own, that's all.

My grandfather saw active service in WW2. He had a huge hole in his leg caused by falling shrapnel - it only just missed a major artery - and it was his comrades whose deaths he witnessed. He also happened to be a working-class tradesman from a Yorkshire regiment, who was by no means a member of the officer class.

In retrospect it's now clear to me that a major bout of 'depression' he suffered during my mother's childhood was a form of post-traumatic stress syndrome (easier for me to recognise as I also have cPTSD, obviously for quite other reasons). But by the standards of that day and age, it wasn't 'manly' to talk about mental health issues. Society is much more comfortable sticking with the hero myth.

My grandfather would never, ever talk about it. I never saw him wear a poppy. He also detected a certain mawkishness and glorifying of a conflict he only wished to forget. That was his right. An intelligent, cerebral man, he was the last person in the world who could be accused of 'spouting rubbish'.

Such offensive posts coming from a position of apparent moral superiority. Strangely enough, wearing a piece of folded red paper does not give you first dibs on this.

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 30/10/2023 10:53

rcat74 · 30/10/2023 10:50

You might be glad of the British Military one day! Fast approaching by the looks of things. Army wife, grandchild of people who served in World War One and ex service person myself so yes I will absolutely be wearing one.

And what are the British Military going to do exactly?

It’ll be over in seconds

MrsSkylerWhite · 30/10/2023 10:53

Yes, in memory of my lovely grandfather.

Tessisme · 30/10/2023 10:59

It is lovely to read that some people are wearing a poppy very specifically in memory of a family member who died. Here in NI many people are very specifically NOT wearing one - in memory of a loved one who died. We should all try to understand one another. I haven't time for militant, pompous eejits telling other people what they should or shouldn't do. It's a matter of personal choice.

MrsSkylerWhite · 30/10/2023 11:01

Tessisme · Today 10:59
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It is lovely to read that some people are wearing a poppy very specifically in memory of a family member who died. Here in NI many people are very specifically NOT wearing one - in memory of a loved one who died. We should all try to understand one another. I haven't time for militant, pompous eejits telling other people what they should or shouldn't do. It's a matter of personal choice

Well said.

Lessstressedhemum · 30/10/2023 11:03

My papa was injured in WW1 and never fully recovered, my uncles served in WW2 and my aunts were in the Wrens and the Wraf. None of them ever talked about it because it was too traumatic.
I wear a white poppy and a purple poppy. Lessons haven't been learned and "never again" has been completely forgotten about.

SerafinasGoose · 30/10/2023 11:11

Tessisme · 30/10/2023 10:59

It is lovely to read that some people are wearing a poppy very specifically in memory of a family member who died. Here in NI many people are very specifically NOT wearing one - in memory of a loved one who died. We should all try to understand one another. I haven't time for militant, pompous eejits telling other people what they should or shouldn't do. It's a matter of personal choice.

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