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Nearly in a serious car accident - hand hold please

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Usedandhurt · 24/10/2023 16:09

Im literally shaking. Just had a driver nearly kill me and my dc on the motorway. He/she must have not checked before they pulled onto the motorway from a slip road, I literally had to slam on the breaks to avoid crashing into them and thankfully the driver behind me and the one behind them etc etc were able to stop also. My dc would have been very badly hurt - it was a huge bus and I can only imagine the driver got distracted.

Im a nervous driver at the best of times and Im literally sick with nerves.

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EarringsandLipstick · 24/10/2023 19:16

Vehicles joining from a slip road, use the slip road to get up to speed and when a slip road is coming up, you should anticipate vehicles joining.

Exactly.

EarringsandLipstick · 24/10/2023 19:16

I don't think ive ever seen someone stop on a slip road to wait for a gap. What a bizarre concept. Those who suggest this, please tell me how one would get up to speed from a complete stop without causing the most horrendous pile up??? This would only be OK if traffic was at a standstill surely.
And also - this.

supersonicginandtonic · 24/10/2023 19:17

The police didn't tell her it wasn't her fault because they weren't there and they cannot give blame into an alleged offence until they have evidence to do so.

UnevenBalance · 24/10/2023 19:18

Waiting for a gap does NOT mean stopping the vehicle 😂😂 @EarringsandLipstick

Mrburnshound · 24/10/2023 19:18

@Crumpleton yes people often squeeze into braking distance spaces, so annoying!

Pleasebeafleabite · 24/10/2023 19:18

supersonicginandtonic · 24/10/2023 19:17

The police didn't tell her it wasn't her fault because they weren't there and they cannot give blame into an alleged offence until they have evidence to do so.

Gosh how very overinvested in this thread you are

IrresponsiblyCertainAboutSexualDimorphism · 24/10/2023 19:19

supersonicginandtonic · 24/10/2023 19:00

www.theaa.com/driving-advice/fear-of-motorway-driving

Says right here how dangerous it is to join a motorway at a slow speed. The OP should have reduced her speed slightly to let the bus in. Yes she had priority but she wasn't driving courteously and if the cars behind her had hit her for doing an emergency stop, she would have been at fault for the accident.

If the cars behind her had hit her she would most definitely not have been at fault.

Drfosters · 24/10/2023 19:19

ReturnOfTheRainMac · 24/10/2023 19:12

@Drfosters not obliged but better to brake than have a bus go into you. Logical!

But she probably only had mere seconds to make that assessment and then by the time she had realised the speed of the incoming vehicle she had to slam on the brakes. When I am going past a slip road and see cars joining sometimes I slow a bit but sometimes I carry on knowing they will be forced to go in behind me. I don’t always automatically let someone in ahead of me if it is 50:50 whether they go in before me or after me. I would assume the incoming car will be watching what I am doing and judging their entrance appropriately. And since I don’t think that many accidents happen on slip roads it would seem that most incoming vehicles focus on what is happening on the motorway as they join.

EarringsandLipstick · 24/10/2023 19:19

Have you never needed to access a gridlocked road or one that is very busy with stop-start traffic, so had to queue on the slip road to wait to join a motorway/dual carriageway?

I've seen this. But it's not what happened here, as OP explained.

supersonicginandtonic · 24/10/2023 19:20

@Pleasebeafleabite having a minute after dealing with proper crimes all day.

fedupandstuck · 24/10/2023 19:21

No one is suggesting the bus or anyone else should stop on the slip road. But as the Highway Code says, it may sometimes happen if there is heavy congestion. What the bus should have done is adjusted speed on the slip road to join safely. They did not and joined in an unsafe manner. The onus is on those joining from the slip road to join safely.

Of course those on the motorway are warned of an approaching slip road, because it's a potential hazard as clearly a lot of people seem to want to drive in a hazardous manner. The OP didn't crash, she avoided the collision as did those behind her. She should not have been forced into that by a vehicle merging into her.

VitoCorleoneOfMNMafia · 24/10/2023 19:21

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/the-highway-code/motorways-253-to-273

Read Rule 259. Then read it again.

The OP is in the right here. The victim-blamers shouldn't be behind the wheel themselves.

Nearly in a serious car accident - hand hold please
Raisinganiguana · 24/10/2023 19:21

If the bus had braked and come to a stop they would not be able to safely join the motorway. Is this genuinely what you believed they should have done? Buses take time to build up speed and that would have been dangerous.

you’ve not clarified how the bus ‘suddenly appeared’ nor how ‘you need to be telepathic’ to know that a vehicle on the slip road will be looking to join the motorway? This confuses me.

And, lastly, please tell me you don’t come to a stop on a slip road looking to join the motorway? A slip road is vehicles to build up speed and ‘slip in.’ You didn’t allow the bus to do that. Of course the bus should not have pulled out but it sounds like you were both driving poorly and without thinking.

supersonicginandtonic · 24/10/2023 19:22

@VitoCorleoneOfMNMafia read it all not just the bits you've posted. You will see drivers should anticipate those joining and also how dangerous it is to stop on a slip road.

Lecc · 24/10/2023 19:23

Hope you are ok.
If you are joining a motorway and there is no gap, you must stop. Traffic already on the motorway has right of way.
If you drive into the back of someone, it's almost always your fault.

EarringsandLipstick · 24/10/2023 19:24

@CurlyhairedAssassin

Excellent points re spacing.

supersonicginandtonic · 24/10/2023 19:24

The bus wasn't speeding as it can't go over 70 miles an hour. The OP wasn't paying attention so she is as bad as the bus driver. How do you not see a bus ffs? Even my 90 year old, partially sighted nana can see a bus coming.

EarringsandLipstick · 24/10/2023 19:25

UnevenBalance · 24/10/2023 19:18

Waiting for a gap does NOT mean stopping the vehicle 😂😂 @EarringsandLipstick

Sorry I'm probably being thick but not getting this point?

VitoCorleoneOfMNMafia · 24/10/2023 19:25

supersonicginandtonic · 24/10/2023 19:22

@VitoCorleoneOfMNMafia read it all not just the bits you've posted. You will see drivers should anticipate those joining and also how dangerous it is to stop on a slip road.

What rule number says that?

supersonicginandtonic · 24/10/2023 19:26

@VitoCorleoneOfMNMafia I'm on about the AA one I posted. It's illegal to stop in a slip road unless it's an emergency

limitedperiodonly · 24/10/2023 19:27

A lot of people here will be buried with their Highway Code.

I know what you should do when joining a motorway but I also know lots of drivers do things they shouldn't and you have to keep an eye out for them especially if they're driving lorries and buses and you are in a small car.

That's why I agree with PP who've suggested moving safely over to the middle lane after passing an off-ramp (mirror, signal, glance over the right shoulder, manoeuvre) which will give you plenty of time before the slip for drivers who want to join and then I'd get back over if it was convenient. But if traffic was moving more slowly than I wanted to travel I would continue driving in the middle at the same rate as others but within the speed limit until there was a decent stretch on the left.

If I wasn't paying attention; none of us does all the time; and there wasn't space I might take my foot off the accelerator anticipating that the other car might barge in front of me. It would depend on the situation but I would try not to use my brakes unnecessarily on a motorway to avoid alarming people behind me and causing bunching or worse, a pile up, from which I drove away scot-free shaking my head at people's terrible driving in my rear view mirror.

I know it is your right of way but that's no comfort when you're in the graveyard, though they could put it on your headstone.

OP we have all had scary experiences when driving. Sometimes it's something we have done and sometimes it's the fault of others and sometimes it is road rage which is sobering when you realise: "This man actually wanted to kill me because I was driving a nicer car than him and was in front."

Normal people like you and me think about it and sometimes we cry. After one incident I drove home in less than 10 minutes calmly, I think. I got indoors and my heart started beating like a bunny rabbit. You know those Bugs Bunny cartoons where his heart is punching out of his chest? It was almost like that. It didn't help that at that moment the phone rang and when I explained my near death experience the person on the other end said: "I wouldn't have done that. DH always says..." It was not the time for a lecture. That was 30 years ago and I hadn't done anything wrong except not realising I was in front of a nutter who quite possibly has caused death and disability and may be dead himself now.

So I'd follow the advice of people who tell you that they anticipate all other road users to be twats and take avoiding action where possible over the advice of people who tell you what the Highway Code says.

Oh, the other thing I've learned is you have to stop apologising for yourself. You have a driving licence and you have the right to be on the road. You should literally steer of nutters but should try not to be so intimidated by them that you make a stupid swerve that endangers some other completely innocent person.

Just get out of their way when it's safe and fgs stop saying you're a nervous driver. If you are, get extra practice or stop doing it.

Lecc · 24/10/2023 19:27

Raisinganiguana · 24/10/2023 19:21

If the bus had braked and come to a stop they would not be able to safely join the motorway. Is this genuinely what you believed they should have done? Buses take time to build up speed and that would have been dangerous.

you’ve not clarified how the bus ‘suddenly appeared’ nor how ‘you need to be telepathic’ to know that a vehicle on the slip road will be looking to join the motorway? This confuses me.

And, lastly, please tell me you don’t come to a stop on a slip road looking to join the motorway? A slip road is vehicles to build up speed and ‘slip in.’ You didn’t allow the bus to do that. Of course the bus should not have pulled out but it sounds like you were both driving poorly and without thinking.

Rubbish

PassageDEnfer · 24/10/2023 19:27

Bloddy terrifying how many people haven't understood they need to give way.

ThirdDressStress · 24/10/2023 19:27

I have never seen anyone stopped at the end of the slip road when motorway traffic is free flowing. This thread sounds like it is a common occurrence!

I am glad you are all ok OP near misses are scary so treat yourself kindly tonight.

LoreleiG · 24/10/2023 19:28

stayflufft · 24/10/2023 18:45

Some real prize specimens on here - could none of the earliest posters be at all kind to the OP, who was clearly shaken and upset?

This - what a horribly unkind thread.

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