A parking one, with a note!

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I know the rules, there's a diagram.

My parents have lived in their house for more than 20 years. The two neighbours opposite them moved in about 5 years ago after that block of land was divided in two and two bungalows built.

My mother has had a horrible day at work, went to get her hair done as they're going on holiday in a few days and got home at 7:30pm and was approached by Red neighbour who complained about their car parked outside her property. She also had left this note. She was waiting for my mum to get home, and seeing as she was home two hours later than she normally would be due to her hair appointment she must've been waiting a long time

The rant included 'when I moved in I told you you weren't allowed to park there!'

Red neighbour lives alone, parks in her garage and has a space on her driveway too. There is one parking space directly outside her house (the one she is Very Cross about) and three more outside Blue neighbour's house, and lots around the corner on the other road.

My mother did in fact move the car, and parked it outside their own house directly opposite Red Neighbour's driveway, making it still entirely possible but a bit annoying to get out of.

I'm very tempted to move the car back outside Red Neighbour's house once my parents head off on their holiday... we're staying with them at the moment, hence why I'm privy to all of the neighbourhood excitement.

Also, not U.K., hence why this has just happened.

Do not escalate neighbour dispute that isn't even yours behind your mothers back.

It's important to remember that you can't reason with people who behave like your parents neighbour. They aren't going to suddenly see the error of their ways.

You can't 'win' because they are thinking in a different way from you.

Obviously your mother can park where she likes on a public road.

The neighbour is batshit but please don't put your mum's car in that spot when they go on holiday in case neighbour does something stupid and damages it.

Top marks for the diagram op!

The neighbour is being a twat and it's odd y see to be annoyed now after 5 years. She's obviously being unreasonable too.

Your mum could talk to her to try and find out what she's actually angry about in order to maintain a good relationship. Or if that doesn't matter move a car to outside her house!

So on your diagram where was your mum's car

Does ‘not UK’ mean your parents and this parking issue are abroad somewhere?

If so I can’t see how comments can help: who knows what the parking laws or established conventions are in an unknown place in an anonymous country?

Why doesn't your mum park outside her own house?

Agree - only 7/10 for the diagram, because whilst it's extremely neat and appropriately colour coded, it doesn't show where tf the car was parked or moved to.

Im assuming OP’s mum parked at the small grey rectangle outside red neighbour’s house.

Where does your mum normally park OP?
Her opposite neighbours both have garages and driveway but your mum’s house does not?

Don't escalate the situation by moving the car.

Advise your DM to ignore the red house lady, not to attempt to wind her up by parking across from the driveway. You're not going to win this one. So if I were your DM I'd just ignore the batshittery and continue to park like a normal considerate neighbour.

Op I will send you 70 quid to hire a skip and have it parked there for a week. Deny all knowledge of the skip..

Ah, I've let myself down with the diagram. My mum normally parks her work vehicle on the big main road around the corner, and my dad parks his work vehicle on the main road outside their own house. Their personal use car is sometimes parked in that grey spot outside red neighbour's house. Otherwise it's taken up by schoolboys from the high school around the corner.

Not actually going to antagonise red neighbour, don't worry

And no parking spaces on my parents' side of the street, and they have a driveway but it's gated and very narrow so isn't day-to-day. No garage.

Not in the UK so is it possible that your neighbour has rights to the space?

Obv in UK neighbour would be in the wrong.

As enjoyable as it would be I don't think you should continue the dispute while parents are away

They should just keep the gate open and park on their own drive. Especially if parking in the area is limited.

They are CFs

Well obviously she can park wherever she likes as long as it legal so it really depends on how much she cares about antagonising her batshit neighbour. It does seem like she has other parking options (outside blue house, round the corner) so she might feel it’s not worth it. Up to her!

No point in trying to change the mind of the neighbour.

What does ‘permanent park’ mean on the note?

'not a permanent parking space' - it's an Australian way of saying things.

I got a good park = I found a good parking space.

The red parking and the grey outside the Red House all look close to the junction. Is this what the complaint is?

So your mum & dad have three vehicles between them, all of which they want to park as close to their home as physically possible, at the inconvenience of their neighbours? Its not illegal but its definitely annoying AF. I think they are equally as CF as the neighbour, personally.

So was the Red neighbour’s note referring to your mum parking on the grey spot outside her drive, or on the red bit around the corner from her house?
Sorry so many questions OP, I’m easily confused 😅

Edited to ask - does anyone use the parking spaces outside Blue neighbour’s house?

The neighbour never uses the park though, even if it's empty she'll park in her garage. If she's ever had a visitor they park on her drive. The only time I've ever seen anyone else use that spot it's a school kid.
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The car isn't always parked there, it's just been there over the weekend. It's usually parked outside blue neighbour's house, who also lives alone and uses her garage and doesn't mind people parking outside her house.^

Your Mum needs to calmly explain to Red Mist neighbour that it is a public road and she is allowed to park there. Surely if your Mum doesn’t park there someone else does?

But it does seem perverse to use a road parking space and keep her drive gated off.

But then Ms Red Mist does the same if she wants the space outside her house instead of using her drive.

@NorthernLiner the grey bit. I thought I did an alright job at the diagram but the next one will need some work I think.

My parents have a dog, and their driveway is very tricky to get in and out of, it requires someone standing there and making sure you don't knock the walls as it's so tight. . It never used to be so bad but an earthquake ten years ago badly damaged the house and property and sort of shifted everything.

Obviously your parents are free to park anywhere they can legally park.
But it's very annoying to neighbours to have people who have a driveway they never use and then park various vehicles in the street. That means visitors can't use those spaces and meanwhile there's a empty drive!

Your parents need to do something about making there driveway more accessible. My in-laws moved into a house with very narrow driveway and they took down part of the wall at each side. Could this be an option?

Parking thread with added complication that earthquake damage has moved and rendered useless previously delineated parking options. Blimey; there's a new twist.
Fuck knows, but if there are enough options I'd just avoid the contentious one. A quiet non-confrontational life seems possible, why not opt for it? Arsey neighbour can get arsey with someone else.