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Message from beyond the grave

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fuffa · 17/10/2023 21:42

I do a lot of family history research. Through my interest I discovered a family member doesn't have the birth father they thought they did.

This family member is happy for me to help them discover their birth father and I have spent some time investigating this.

Today, I spoke to another family member who went to a spiritualist last night and had a message to pass onto me telling me to stop delving into the past. It is believed the message is from the man who we all thought was the birth father but isn't.

I'm not looking to discuss how I came to discover this about the claimed birth father, or how this family member now knows their father isn't their birth father. I'm looking to find out people's opinions or whether you would stop investigating based on the message received last night.

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HoppingPavlova · 17/10/2023 22:14

They didn't go for a one on one reading but were picked out of an audience because the spiritualist mentioned something specific about this situation that made my family member speak up that the message was specifically for them

ate you for real? And you believe this? A spiritualist with a live audience will say any number of things, quite generic and there will always be members of the audience who believe it applies to them. It doesn’t.

AppropriateAdult · 17/10/2023 22:16

Sorry OP, it's not clear from your replies whether you understand that it's your living, psychic-visiting relative who wants you to stop digging into the past, not some deceased family member. You do understand this, don't you? There's nothing paranormal going on.

caringcarer · 17/10/2023 22:18

Buggerthislove · 17/10/2023 21:47

I'd carry on the research, the suspicious part of my brain says the relative with the message via the spiritualist knows all about the history and doesn't think you should carry on.

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gotomomo · 17/10/2023 22:22

The relative obviously knows the truth! I don't believe in such things as beyond the grave, it's made up rubbish to con vulnerable people.

Dna is the best option at this point

Ladyof2022 · 17/10/2023 22:22

As the great James Randii once said, anyone can talk to the dead, it's really easy full stop the problem lies in trying to get them to reply.

OrderOfTheKookaburra · 17/10/2023 22:22

Given the number of people looking into the past with DNA testing kits through Ancestry.com etc if that was that hook, they were bound to find someone!

Quitelikeit · 17/10/2023 22:23

Is the family member the father? 🤣

Or if not what relation are they to the girl?

gotomomo · 17/10/2023 22:24

Also remember the "family member doesn't have the dad we thought" is really common, we found one in my extended family and so did a good friend, we find is amusing as my aunt was so prim and proper, didn't approve of me being unmarried yet her own sister was her half sister and her mum was unmarried when she was born

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fuffa · 17/10/2023 22:25

OK so I'm very fond of the dead person who apparently gave a message to someone else in the family after being dead for almost 30 years about something I'm doing right now to do with finding out they aren't actually the father of another family member.

I know it's ridiculous but the person who died means a lot to me.

I do know it sounds ridiculous. But you still stop and wonder.

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Missedmytoe · 17/10/2023 22:28

fuffa · 17/10/2023 22:04

They didn't go for a one on one reading but were picked out of an audience because the spiritualist mentioned something specific about this situation that made my family member speak up that the message was specifically for them.

That's just cold reading.
Person says something relatively ambiguous, and audience member reacts. Person picks up on reaction, and audience member then clarifies to make it fit their situation.

CurlewKate · 17/10/2023 22:32

How did your research show that your family member didn't have the father they thought they did? DNA testing? Letters? Confessions?

Incidentally, the only people who can stop the research is the family member concerned. Or you. Not a "psychic".

Circumferences · 17/10/2023 22:40

Today, I spoke to another family member who went to a spiritualist last night and had a message to pass onto me telling me to stop delving into the past

This struck me because spiritualists, psychics, reiki therapists, healers, all of them, they 99% of the time LOVE to tell you to "delve into the past".
These people LOVE the past. They love to tell you all about the past and their opinion of it, It's their modus operandi.

You've been duped. It all sound very suspicious.

TravelInHope · 17/10/2023 22:48

Do you get to vote in elections, about important things?

Thistlelass · 17/10/2023 22:49

Missedmytoe · 17/10/2023 22:28

That's just cold reading.
Person says something relatively ambiguous, and audience member reacts. Person picks up on reaction, and audience member then clarifies to make it fit their situation.

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That is actually the Medium establishing the link, ie that he/she is with the correct person who recognises who the person in spirit may be. This is not done 'blindly' either as each Medium has a Spirit Guide whose role is to gate-keep access to the Medium and to assist them with the process. Once the link has been established more evidence is drawn down from Spirit and a specific important message is generally forthcoming. It is really not smart to mock a process and movement you know nothing about. You are not the only one doing it.

Guesswho88 · 17/10/2023 22:51

It depends...does this other family member (the one who went to a Spiritualist) know that you have been investigating?

KilgoreTrouts · 17/10/2023 22:53

fuffa · 17/10/2023 22:25

OK so I'm very fond of the dead person who apparently gave a message to someone else in the family after being dead for almost 30 years about something I'm doing right now to do with finding out they aren't actually the father of another family member.

I know it's ridiculous but the person who died means a lot to me.

I do know it sounds ridiculous. But you still stop and wonder.

OP, this is ridiculous. Your beloved, deceased relative is not communicating displeasure at your ancestry research via Psychic Betty down the town hall. This is the disapproving living relative trying to put a spanner in the works.

KilgoreTrouts · 17/10/2023 22:54

Thistlelass · 17/10/2023 22:49

That is actually the Medium establishing the link, ie that he/she is with the correct person who recognises who the person in spirit may be. This is not done 'blindly' either as each Medium has a Spirit Guide whose role is to gate-keep access to the Medium and to assist them with the process. Once the link has been established more evidence is drawn down from Spirit and a specific important message is generally forthcoming. It is really not smart to mock a process and movement you know nothing about. You are not the only one doing it.

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This is one of the silliest things I’ve ever read on here, which is saying something. It’s a ‘process’ of fraudulent nonsense that deserves mocking.

LastNightIDreamtIWasAtManderleyAgain · 17/10/2023 22:56

Ok, assuming it's not fake (which it could be), you have no proof that a voice from beyond the grave is who they say they are, or even is/was human rather than some other kind of spirit, or knows best, or is telling the truth. Use your own heart and reason. Don't bother with 'voices'!

Awrite · 17/10/2023 22:56

It just means you are getting close and someone is trying to emotionally manipulate you to stop.

LastNightIDreamtIWasAtManderleyAgain · 17/10/2023 22:56

Yup

baroqueandblue · 17/10/2023 23:05

Your relative is making the whole thing up in the hope that you'll be superstitious and misinformed enough to believe it and be 'scared off' investigating the birth father any further. Relative is doing this for their own obstructive reasons, it's so obvious.

Forgottenmypasswordagain · 17/10/2023 23:07

No, I would laugh it off.

Stroopwaffels · 17/10/2023 23:10

Come on.

Messages from beyond the grave are nonsense. There is no dead person out there telling to to leave things alone.

The living however are a different matter, and I always tread very carefully when exploring these sorts of situations as you just have no idea what you're going to uncover.

Mydahliasareshit · 17/10/2023 23:11

I have been through the 'heir hunting' process quite by surprise from a relative by adoption I never met. A lot came to light during that process, and so my first question for you to consider is, could someone lose a lot of money or an inheritance be challenged, if this person was their child?

blacksax · 17/10/2023 23:13

Thistlelass · 17/10/2023 22:49

That is actually the Medium establishing the link, ie that he/she is with the correct person who recognises who the person in spirit may be. This is not done 'blindly' either as each Medium has a Spirit Guide whose role is to gate-keep access to the Medium and to assist them with the process. Once the link has been established more evidence is drawn down from Spirit and a specific important message is generally forthcoming. It is really not smart to mock a process and movement you know nothing about. You are not the only one doing it.

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Oh come off it. I'm a spiritual person, but that's nonsense.

There's a whole theatre full of highly suggestible people waiting for the medium to say something meaningful to them, and confirmation bias ensures that it is bound to find one or two targets. It is statistically highly likely.

You only need 23 people in a room for there to be a better than 50/50 chance that two of them will share a birthday.

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