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New Research suggest Prep machines NOT safe

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TheLastParty · 05/10/2023 15:31

www.swansea.ac.uk/press-office/news-events/news/2023/10/study-raises-concerns-over-powdered-infant-formula-preparation-machines.php

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Snugdrink · 30/05/2024 23:56

CarolHath · 07/10/2023 14:16

@megletthesecond

iris.who.int/bitstream/handle/10665/43659/9789241595414_eng.pdf?sequence=1

WHO guidance re:making formula does advise that pre making formula, flash cooling and storing in the fridge for no more than 24hrs is safe.

The NHS probably don't tell ppl this as lots can't be trusted to do it correctly.

The WHO doesn't tell you to pre make. They said to make fresh, but if you cant... Basically ots just allowing germs to breed, so avoid it.

Snugdrink · 30/05/2024 23:58

TulipsTulipTulips · 06/10/2023 13:58

I always find it horrifying that formula powder is so prone to growing bacteria that it needs sterilising in the first place.

It's not being sterilised. I don't know why powdered milk say doesn't need hot water, but the milk isn't being sterlised, just being heated to kill germs... Which is much the same thing lol

Snugdrink · 30/05/2024 23:59

Frith2013 · 06/10/2023 13:35

It's one of those things that was so obvious that the research wasn't necessary.

NHS doesn't tell you not to use it.

NHS doesn't state that it's against WHO guidelines. NHS doesn't state there perhaps isn't enough hot water to kill germs in the milk.

For seven scoops 30ml of water is dispensed.

Not enough.

Snugdrink · 31/05/2024 00:00

Summermeadowflowers · 06/10/2023 14:04

I don’t think it is common knowledge - everyone uses them. It’s possible that they might be using them in full knowledge that there are safety concerns but I don’t think they are.

Yeah sadly the NHS is promoting them

Snugdrink · 31/05/2024 00:01

Discwriter · 06/10/2023 13:36

We used one with DC1, clear as day that shot of hot water is not enough to sterilise the powder added. It also made him very gassy - so lovely idea in theory, terrible in practice. Im glad to see it's not so widely recommended as 7 years ago.

All that shaking or the bottle?

Yep I have no idea why people don't see that there isn't enough water.

Issue is america doesn't even use hot water lol

Snugdrink · 31/05/2024 00:06

Devilsmommy · 06/10/2023 14:51

I ended up buying a hot water dispenser for £60 on Amazon. Always set at 70°c. So knew I'd always have perfect temp water. You can't always guarantee it's going to be dead on 30 mins since you boiled the kettle 😁

You don't wait 30 minutes! The water (1 litre I think) will stay hot for up to 30 minutes..... So you can let the water cool a little whilst you nappy change or whatever

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