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If you're worried about rising private school fees..

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CurlewKate · 28/09/2023 13:35

... why not just get a better paid job? It apparently works for poor people.

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OloOloOlo · 28/09/2023 17:05

@SafferUpNorth The VAT on fees money is to be spent on largely on disadvantaged students. There will be no wholesale investment/upgrade on education.

SueVineer · 28/09/2023 17:07

ChallengeAnneka · 28/09/2023 16:59

Ensuring that private health services charge VAT would be a vote winner too. A topic for another thread!

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You’re off your rocker. Many people can’t access the care they need on the nhs. Taxing private medical and dental care would only annoy people further.

bombastix · 28/09/2023 17:10

Tbh Labour aren't dim, it's not like the people who complain about this policy will ever vote for them anyway. What is more surprising is that they are actually surprised.

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SueVineer · 28/09/2023 17:10

DuncinToffee · 28/09/2023 17:03

https://ifs.org.uk/publications/tax-private-school-fees-and-state-school-spending

From the report

Combining estimated tax revenues and extra public spending needs, our view is that it would be reasonable to assume a net gain to the public finances of £1.3–1.5 billion per year in the medium to long run as a result of removing tax exemptions from private schools. This would allow for about a 2% increase in state school spending in England, which Labour has proposed would be targeted at disadvantaged students.

Finally, it is possible that the state sector could easily accommodate extra pupils given that overall pupil numbers across England are due to decline by at least 100,000 per year on average up to 2030 – i.e. a total drop of more than 700,000, which is bigger than the total number of children attending private schools

It cost 11bn last year just to update state pensions in line with the triple lock. A projected net gain of £1.5bn is insignificant in the realm of government spending.

needtofatoff · 28/09/2023 17:11

Funny, that is exactly what I have been doing this afternoon.

SueVineer · 28/09/2023 17:11

bombastix · 28/09/2023 17:10

Tbh Labour aren't dim, it's not like the people who complain about this policy will ever vote for them anyway. What is more surprising is that they are actually surprised.

I’ve voted Labour in the past and never conservative. But I’m worried about this policy because I have a daughter with sen.

OloOloOlo · 28/09/2023 17:11

@Iwishicouldflyhigh I am thinking the other way in that it would reinforce peoples intention to vote Labour without considering the impact to state schools properly.

The headline implies the only losers are parents who pay school fees and a big chunk of change will be invested in schools. It is just very misleading as state school pupils will be impacted too.

Iwishicouldflyhigh · 28/09/2023 17:16

bombastix · 28/09/2023 17:10

Tbh Labour aren't dim, it's not like the people who complain about this policy will ever vote for them anyway. What is more surprising is that they are actually surprised.

Eh? LOADS of Labour supporters send their children to private school (and loads of Labour politicians went to private school).

I have lots of Labour voting friends who will not be voting Labour due to this policy - loads! They won't vote Tory either though!

bombastix · 28/09/2023 17:18

People who complain about it. I send my children to private school. I have also voted Labour. I do not have a problem with this policy.

At the next election I am voting for whoever gets the Tories out. But complaining that Labour have a redistributive tax policy is like complaining water is wet.

ChocolateyBiccy · 28/09/2023 17:19

SafferUpNorth · 28/09/2023 17:04

Errrr, Labour is probably not going anywhere near that idea for the reason I mentioned - many NHS treatments are now being delivered privately, therefore blurring the lines between 'state' and 'private' provision. It would be an own goal to enforce a divide.

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Exactly. During the pandemic I actually got a partial rebate from my health insurer as I hadn't be able to use private healthcare as the local private facilities were being used by the NHS.

Btw, I no longer have private health insurance. Hopefully that will please some people 🙄

Highandlows · 28/09/2023 17:20

@BlurredEdges no I think you just feel entitled to other people’s money as many on this country.

UsernameChangedYetAgain · 28/09/2023 17:20

bombastix · 28/09/2023 17:18

People who complain about it. I send my children to private school. I have also voted Labour. I do not have a problem with this policy.

At the next election I am voting for whoever gets the Tories out. But complaining that Labour have a redistributive tax policy is like complaining water is wet.

That's because you evidently can afford to not complain about it. It's another labour policy designed to gain votes but will actually significantly disadvantage their core voting demographic for the reasons already outlined earlier in the thread

EasternStandard · 28/09/2023 17:20

bombastix · 28/09/2023 17:10

Tbh Labour aren't dim, it's not like the people who complain about this policy will ever vote for them anyway. What is more surprising is that they are actually surprised.

Actually I think Keir is a bit dimmer than Blair

The latter didn’t really go for the ‘get the rich’ policies and did well

Usernamehell · 28/09/2023 17:20

CurlewKate · 28/09/2023 16:36

@Usernamehell "Do you think that justifies starting this nasty thread?"

Why is it nasty? It's said to people struggling financially on here all the time. And by conservative politicians. "Cut back" "Get a better job" "Eat lentils" "Feed your family for a tenner a week." "Give up the internet." How come it's sensible advice then but suddenly nasty if it's said to privileged people?

What they say is also nasty and not sensible advice by any stretch. Unfortunately, British politicians are renown for being out of touch with reality.

Not only are you sinking to their level, you have started a thread to goad parents who may be struggling (and have not asked for your advice or opinion). Nasty is the best description.

Will definitely put all posts I see from you in a different light going forward

PowerVandhana1986 · 28/09/2023 17:22

Good source.

PattyDukeAstin · 28/09/2023 17:25

Saying a thread is 'nasty' is often used on here when posters don't want to discuss something and want to silence the OP. It's a shield.

Usernamehell · 28/09/2023 17:30

PattyDukeAstin · 28/09/2023 17:25

Saying a thread is 'nasty' is often used on here when posters don't want to discuss something and want to silence the OP. It's a shield.

Had someone started a thread saying
‘If you’re struggling to heat your home and put food on the table because of CoL rises, get a new job and earn more’
when no one had asked for advice, they would rightly be told they are goady and nasty. This is no different.

The OP is not encouraging discussion - there are plenty of other threads on the topic currently active where she can (and has) engage in discussion. The only reason for starting the thread was to goad and so yes, it is nasty

bombastix · 28/09/2023 17:34

Come on, the number of people who might vote Labour who also send their children to private schools and will struggle is a very small figure. I would not expect them to not do something on the basis it may affect a small aspirational class.

BlurredEdges · 28/09/2023 17:35

Toobear · 28/09/2023 16:11

Ha ha, you’ve got to be kidding.

We work all hours God sends and still can’t afford the extra VAT on school fees. So are in the process of moving house to the catchment area of an outstanding state school.

As we won’t be paying £60,000 a year on school fees, I’m planning on taking early retirement 👍.

Feels good to know that I’ll get to enjoy my kids AND no longer be paying the government £50,000+ a year in tax AND will actually get something in return for all the tax we’ve paid over the last 25 years.

I hope labour’s got deep pockets; my family alone will cost the government over £500,000 in lost tax and educating my kids 🤷

God, you must feel very silly to have been wasting all that money all those years!

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CurlewKate · 28/09/2023 17:37

For clarity. If you can afford to send your child to private school, you are not"scrimping and saving". And it is seriously offensive to suggest you are.

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bombastix · 28/09/2023 17:37

Yes indeed; apparently the state did provide a reasonable education after all

Tinklyheadtilt · 28/09/2023 17:38

Head wobble needed OP.

RoseandVioletCreams · 28/09/2023 17:39

@SisterMichaelsHabit

Here here.

UsernameChangedYetAgain · 28/09/2023 17:41

CurlewKate · 28/09/2023 17:37

For clarity. If you can afford to send your child to private school, you are not"scrimping and saving". And it is seriously offensive to suggest you are.

The scholarship families probably are

usernother · 28/09/2023 17:43

What a horrible thread. Seems like the OP resents people who have more money than her.

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