Will we look back on programmes like Naked Attraction and Love Island and think wtf?

[VeloVixen]

at the risk of sounding like Mary Whitehouse I think that now to be honest.

in the Russell Brand fall out I saw a clip yesterday of him and Alan Carr getting the female, single audience members of Alan Carr’s show to stand up while Russell walked round deciding which ones were “nice”. The theme been that Russell was picking who he was going to take back and shag after the show. That went out on channel 4 with everyone laughing and thinking it was ok.

Will we look back at current shows which objectify women and men, judge them on their looks, their penis size, their pubic hair, whether they are in a couple or not and think what the hell were we doing letting stuff like that be broadcast? Remember stuff like Kanga on Big Brother masturbating while drunk with a beer bottle in the garden. What on earth were the tv executives doing letting stuff like that happen to drunk, vulnerable youngsters? We had Jeremy Kyle exploiting vulnerable people and look what happened. But it continues to some extent.

Practically anything he’s in thumbs down 👎

You're all absolutely right. Especially about this generation and younger thinking the only way they've made it in life is if they are famous. My 12 year old has asked to watch Love Island as I'd imagine some of her peers do, I asked her if she wanted to watch a program about people walking around half naked competing to have sex with other other. She declined.

I also think it's really important to keep teaching our girls and boys that they can say no. I totally agree that girls are conditioned to be people pleasers. In my late 40s I'm now getting much better at saying no when things don't work for me and asking other people for help, rather than people assuming I'll do everything as I have a vagina.

It's about an American teenager before he goes off to college, his parents bribe JL's character to have sex with him as they think he's a shy virgin and want to boost his confidence. I'm really surprised she agreed to be in it as it definitely wouldn't be seen as acceptable the other way round! It's called no hard feelings

Can we also add things like Married At First Sight to this list?

I cannot stand these types of shows. Love Island in particular is disgusting, and don't get me started on the 'games' they make the contestants play. It's foul. That's without even beginning to talk to the terrible body image ideals these shows portray, and for teens they are bombarded with this every night and then all over social media. It's toxic.

Anyone also remember Ulrika Johnson being called 4x4 routinely, including on Shooting Stars. I don't even see how that is remotely funny?

I thought Shooting Stars as well earlier. Vic used to rub his legs at Ulrika, was all a bit grim.

I'm afraid I always have. But I am a humourless 1970s feminist who doesn't believe a choice is feminist because a woman makes it.

I'm already in the WTF camp, too. I've no idea how these programmes ever got the green light.

I stumbled upon Naked Attraction once and couldn't quite believe it!

Yes, the people are on there voluntarily, but the more programmes like this there are, the stronger the message is that this behaviour is normal/expected/admirable/desirable.

Horrible.

Can I add Keith Lemon's Bo Selecta to that list. Nasty little shit

Dh was having a rant about creepy Lemon only yesterday.

I don’t watch any of this sort of shit. I certainly used to watch some trash in the 90s and 00s when I was young and frequently pissed, and bought into ‘ladette culture’ and girl power and all that nonsense. Can’t stand ‘reality’ TV now (reality it is anything but) and can’t believe how invested people get in it and how it can dominate some people’s conversations. It’s depressing. I hope it’ll all be looked back on with dismay, but I do worry it’ll be replaced with something worse before it gets better.

I’m afraid I’m just about old enough to remember Channel 4’s highly questionable Minipops. 🫣

I don't need to look back, I'm already there!

But in answer to your question about society. I hope we will very soon get to a point when we look back at think wtf! Get these programmes off air.

I don't really understand how Naked Attraction was ever made or considered a good idea. Cattle market level 'entertainment' that debases human beings entirely.

I think this is a difficult line to walk. We can be dismissive about the trash we used to watch when we were younger on with older eyes and more experience we can cringe, or be horrified. But…I’m also wary of being an old fart who starts telling young adults what they can and can’t watch, or what they are allowed to find amusing.

There should absolutely be a level of safeguarding for participants of programmes, and I think in the past people have been failed woefully. But condemning people for being participants in 90’s style “ladette culture”…it feels that there is a point you can interfere too much. Most of what youngsters enjoy feels increasingly alien to me, but is it my place to start dictating?

I've been thinking WTF about prime time UK TV since Big Brother.

And Big Brother's coming back...

Same!

I think they should never have been considered as acceptable for broadcast. Ditto the various tv shows that have people talking in very intimate detail about sex - even showing them actually 'doing the deed' almost. Ugh.

It's already WTF but to be honest there's been freak shows since the days of.....well let's just say watching people die on a cross was a day out with entertainment 2000 odd years ago.

As others have said, I think that now, especially Married at First Sight - when I first heard about it I couldn't believe it was allowed.
However, I don't know if we will "look back in horror" as the trend seems to be more and more of this kind of thing.
I remember watching Clive James in the 1980s showing clips from foreign TV game shows where people had to eat disgusting things, get locked in small spaces etc, and it seemed absolutely alien and barbaric - now it's mainstream TV in this country, I'm a Celeb etc.
I can't see it changing any time soon.

I think 'WTF' and that they are scraping the bottom of a rather unpleasant barrel as it is.

So glad to read same minded comments. Tuned into NA once by mistake. The question is what can we do about it? Apart from not watching.

Haven't watched TV for several years now - the constant diet of violence towards women dressed up as entertainment sickens me. No thanks

hardcoreladytype has it
*Look back?

I already think WTF about those shows. 🤷‍♀️*

I can’t believe people actually watch and enjoy these shows.

I honestly thought I was beyond being 'shocked' by TV til I flicked onto naked attraction one time and am so appalled by it.

I watched goggle box the Irish version the other day, don't know if it was a re run, but they were watching a US show called 'MILF Manor'. As the name suggests it was matching 20 something love island types with 40/50 something women, which is bad enough but they were their mothers. So yeah basically they were all chatting about what their mums / sons were doing with their housemates. They had a challenge where the mums had to smell dirty underpants to identify which was their sons. It was sickening, I couldn't even watch people watching it.

Bring back public decency and morality standards I say.