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Sara Sharifs mother

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Boshi · 16/09/2023 11:30

Isn’t her oldest, the 13 year old boy still in pakistan? Is she not entitled to have the boy back in the UK with her as she would be the legal guardian? Just wondering why he is still out there with his siblings

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dinoice · 16/09/2023 11:35

I would guess because of where it is, no reciprocal enforcement of children to be returned

Britsy · 16/09/2023 11:56

Maybe he wants to stay with the rest of his siblings

mindutopia · 16/09/2023 12:07

I read the other day that all 5 children returned to the UK before the parents did. I suspect because they were found with family other than their parents and may be considered under the jurisdiction of the UK so I assume now in care here?

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tescocreditcard · 16/09/2023 12:10

I thought the mother and father had joint custody

Evieanne · 16/09/2023 12:15

Let’s pray there’s a good outcome for the children, one where they are safe and happy and have contact with each other. Nothing worse than separating siblings

Wishitsnows · 16/09/2023 12:19

They had joint custody but the father refused to allow the mum her time with the children is what I understood. The family court order should be reviewed as to why he had them and if the mum had raised concerns but was ignored

Ineedasitdown · 16/09/2023 12:22

@Wishitsnows given the state of the family courts and the recent reporting of their dubious decision making, I don’t think it can be assumed that children being in the care of the father was a just outcome. I hope the parental custody arrangements get reviewed, and if it proves that family court were involved and decided children were safer with father… then I hope there’s an enquiry with teeth into family courts.

IglesiasPiggl · 16/09/2023 12:24

I too wonder about what happened that the mum was clearly not having much contact with her children. Is she in some way unsuitable/unable or did the father push her out of the picture?

Approaching · 16/09/2023 12:24

She is not “entitled”, parents have responsibilities under UK law, not rights.

Right now the child is in Pakistan, so it’s up to the Pakistani authorities where he goes.

If they decide to return him to the UK, social services and the family court would have a view on where he would live.

The son hadn’t lived with her for a long time, and she doesn’t live in the UK which is his home. I don’t think sending him to her is a simple decision.

Ineedasitdown · 16/09/2023 12:27

Is it up to Pakistani authorities though? Depends on the citizenship status? I have no idea what this is but if they are not Pakistani citizens then you’d hope they would have to be returned to uk?

RachelGreensHair · 16/09/2023 12:32

The kids are safe and looked after where they are - and together. Am sure the authorities don't want to start moving them to pillar to post. How easy do you think it would be to find a Foster family willing to take on 5 kids with a range of ages who have all suffered trauma?! I for one am glad they're taking the slow soft approach with them. Even being on a plane without their parents will be a lot for them.

SchadenfreudeIstMeinMittelname · 16/09/2023 12:37

Evieanne · 16/09/2023 12:15

Let’s pray there’s a good outcome for the children, one where they are safe and happy and have contact with each other. Nothing worse than separating siblings

Er, yes there is. Being beaten to death, for example.

Thisismynewusername1 · 16/09/2023 12:38

Evieanne · 16/09/2023 12:15

Let’s pray there’s a good outcome for the children, one where they are safe and happy and have contact with each other. Nothing worse than separating siblings

It’s not the case that siblings are always better off together.

Anothershitusername · 16/09/2023 12:39

I read he only custody of them ,because he said they were at risk of being taken out of the country by her

Evieanne · 16/09/2023 12:39

Children who have been brought up together being kept together in a safe home are always better off together. It’s why the UK care system try their best to keep siblings together.

Janieforever · 16/09/2023 12:41

Can I ask why you’re only focused on the eldest and not the other three kids in Pakistan? You clearly know he’s one of the four there, so why do you feel she should have this one child back?

SallyWD · 16/09/2023 12:43

I thought the mother lived in Poland? But yes, of she is able to cate for the son she should have him. I don't know the background or why she lost custody of her children.

Evieanne · 16/09/2023 12:43

SchadenfreudeIstMeinMittelname · 16/09/2023 12:37

Er, yes there is. Being beaten to death, for example.

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Considering I said somewhere where they’re safe and happy and have contact. I don’t understand your objection.

Dotcheck · 16/09/2023 12:44

The father is a man who was complicit in the murder of his child. It’s not hard to imagine that he was abusive to his wife and punished her by not letting her see the children

BonnieLisbon · 16/09/2023 12:47

Janieforever · 16/09/2023 12:41

Can I ask why you’re only focused on the eldest and not the other three kids in Pakistan? You clearly know he’s one of the four there, so why do you feel she should have this one child back?

The others aren't hers

Evieanne · 16/09/2023 12:48

@Janieforever the other 4 aren’t hers, her son is one of 5

BonnieLisbon · 16/09/2023 12:49

Wishitsnows · 16/09/2023 12:19

They had joint custody but the father refused to allow the mum her time with the children is what I understood. The family court order should be reviewed as to why he had them and if the mum had raised concerns but was ignored

Where did you read she had joint custody? She said in the somerset live article the dad had sole custody decided by the courts?

AvocadotoastORahouse · 16/09/2023 12:51

Janieforever · 16/09/2023 12:41

Can I ask why you’re only focused on the eldest and not the other three kids in Pakistan? You clearly know he’s one of the four there, so why do you feel she should have this one child back?

Because the accused stepmother is the mother of the younger 3 children. The Polish mother is not responsible for them surely.