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Failed degree and am a complete failure

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loseridiot · 10/09/2023 21:24

Hi,

Failed an OU open degree after failing the final EMA. Thought it would just mean a lower classification but it'll be a diploma. When it comes it's going straight in the bin.

Can't stop crying. Everybody always said I was useless, stupid and would never amount to anything. Wanted to prove they were wrong. They weren't. Always had minimum wage jobs as no better for anything else. Thought it might improve prospects and help others.

Hope nobody is in this position. What a waste of time and money.

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loseridiot · 11/09/2023 23:31

Just come back to this thread after work to say thanks so much again for your comments that have been so touching and incredibly kind. That complete strangers would be so supportive to each other in a way that few people irl seem to be.

To answer the points:

To not be allowed to resit IS very harsh and a shame for people who might have just got a bit lost somewhere.

There was no help or feedback prior to submitting. The OU gives you module materials and the option of booking tutorials for assignments. I attended them obviously for guidance and online studies are very isolating. There's the option of emailing the tutor if needed but didn't as there wasn't the need before.

FAIL = First Attempt In Learning. What a lovely way to look at things and great young people. They're lucky to have you.

There was a tutorial at the start of the year about writing assignments, referencing and such but not EMA's. In hindsight that would have been helpful as that's most of your marks!

Sometimes it's not confidence that motivates but wanting to do better, wanting to help others, proving the doubters wrong, even if they haven't been around for years. These people have their own problems and it's sad they don't recognise, work on or even admit them so they remain stuck. By the time they do, if at all, they haven't got the best out of the people around them. Even if those people stick around.

People with hard lives go one of two ways in my experience. Either they take it out on others or they use it as a benchmark to do better and try to spread a bit of kindness.

The ex-parents were very unhappy people who blamed me. It must have been horrible for them and I wasn't perfect but couldn't win. Really wish things had been different but there was no relationship. It has been liberating not dealing with constant unkindness, nit picking and hostility but it left its scars. It wasn't just them but some managers and colleagues as well. When enough people tell you something you believe them even though it's very painful, and sometimes they have their own agendas so you're unsure if it's you or them. Hope nobody reading can relate.

Yes, sometimes you are better off on your own although that's not always easy either!

Starting therapy next week to try and unpick before it's too late. Please consider doing the same if this applies and The Stately Homes thread in Relationships describes difficult family dynamics that might be of some help. It's true you can't please everybody.

"FAIL = First Attempt In Learning". What a lovely way to look at things and children like that can only succeed. They're lucky to have you for support.

Sorry to hear of others being disappointed with results or not feeling they can try in the first place. Keep going until you find something that works for you.

Where things are up to now is I called Student Support crying and spoke to a lovely advisor who also lives in the real world and understood. He talked through the options which have been said already on here. There's nothing in the way of ongoing tutor support. There was one support session I've already had.

Will rework what is possible before resubmitting then wait and see as the deadline's looming. Not at all confident but when there's nothing to lose might as well.

I agree this way of studying is the hardest yet it was presented as easier at the time as you can fit it around other commitments. A brick uni sounds more supportive.

Thanks again so much to you all for your generosity and suggestions. Hope this thread has helped others. Never give up or be afraid to reach out.

Flowers
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DaisyDreaming · 11/09/2023 23:44

I’ve heard the OU is the hardest way to do it and yet here you are. You’ve worked so hard and passed all the other units. Don’t give up now and don’t put all your self worth on 7 points. It’s horrible you were 7 points away from pasting but try and shut out the voices in your head which are saying mean things and repeating horrid things that have been said to you as a child. You came through that.

if you had a child and they had worked so hard with no support to do an OU degree and then on their last module they were 7 marks short. Would you think they were all those horrid useless things? No you wouldn’t, and you speak kindly to them. Try and be kind to yourself

loseridiot · 11/09/2023 23:51

Thanks a lot Daisy and glad saw this message before going to bed.

No and you wouldn't either. Unkindness is so unnecessary and does nobody any good.

Hope you're kind to yourself as well!

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Folicky · 11/09/2023 23:55

Almost impossible to pass with that narrative going on in your head. I hope you can get some help with that. Student services?

Indiacalling · 12/09/2023 07:10

Did you get any written feedback? I have re-read your comments and all I can see is that the essay did not flow (you had an argument/counter argument structure) and there were not enough references. By not enough references, do you mean poor citation practice (that is, you need to make sure and provide citations for all the arguments and data you use) or do you mean insufficient content informing the dissertation?
I don’t know about psychology or the OU, but what kind of data were you using? Did you get any feedback on whether your sources were sufficient?
The OU website is not very clear on what academic learning support there is beyond tutors - is there a general writing/learning support team? Where I am we have an academic learning unit where students can go if they need advice on structure and citations etc.

christinarossetti19 · 12/09/2023 07:44

Is there anyone who you could ask to read and comment on what you submitted?

Or a few people to help you review

  • the strength of the arguments you made and your understanding and explanation of them
  • overall presentation and use of citations (the OU PG I'd doing has very, very specifhc ways to set things out)
  • overall structure and flow
-anything that could be added/taken out/made more or less of?

IMVHE by the time you've completed an EMA, you can't see the wood for the trees in terms of how it might come across to someone else.

A new pair of eyes might be able to identify some quick wins from a marking pov.

loseridiot · 12/09/2023 14:56

Thanks again for replies.

Yes, spoke to Student Support.

No to written feedback. The OU doesn't for EMA's weirdly yet gives them for other assignments which is unhelpful. The feedback was given by a different OU tutor when I arranged a support session over Teams and she gave verbal pointers while I took notes. One was I didn't give enough citations on one part of the essay. The sources are relevant.

The OU website does mention how to write essays. I'm thinking more and more from posting it was a mistake to go with the OU when there seems to be far more support at a brick uni.

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YoSof · 12/09/2023 15:21

i just read your post and I’m SO please you’re going to resit! Psychology is so difficult, I’m only doing a diploma at the moment and hoping to go on to Uni next year but there are some psychology modules and I find them really difficult.

You are obviously not stupid - 7 marks is not massive and you are starting to see where you could improve with the essay writing, which is brilliant. You are just as capable and just as worthy as everyone else, remember that.

Now deep breath, go again. Keep moving forward you will get there I promise. Maybe there are people around like tutors who could help with the essay writing?

loseridiot · 12/09/2023 16:33

Thanks so much. It is hard and you're wise to do a course first and build up. Should have done that in hindsight!

Thanks a lot. Need to resubmit this week so not much time. Will just do best then wait and see. Really hope yours goes well. It's hard but very interesting!

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Inthisspace · 12/09/2023 17:14

It's lovely to see you will resit. Good luck.

I nearly failed a couple of modules at the start of my degree. I was so worried about my scores whilst waiting and it took over my life. Well the whole degree took over my life. I also had a very difficult set of circumstances and background and felt the ou was my last chance.

I ended up getting a first (I don't say that to be smug). I am saying it because I thought getting a degree would change my life and unlock new doors. I look back now and it never actually changed anything. Well it hasn't so far. There is still far too much going on if my life and the practicalities of my life didn't go a way because I got a degree. Also, what I wanted when I first started changed over such a long period of time. I have no idea what I would even use it for now.

In some ways it is nice to have, especially when you have put so much time and money in. I really hope you get there. Sadly, please don't pin all your hopes on your degree being the answer. A large part of me wishes I wouldn't have been so worked up about it, the stress it caused me was awful. I hate to think of anyone else in difficult circumstances putting themselves through that thinking their life depends on it.

Moral of the story. Do your best but either way you will be OK x

Moodwill · 12/09/2023 17:32

OP, I can help you. Send me a PM. I'm happy to look through what you've done and make suggestions on where you can improve.

itsmyp4rty · 12/09/2023 17:45

Well done OP for having a complete hissy fit and then pulling yourself together and realising that you bloody well can do this! That right there shows resilience and strength to not give in to the horrible people who made you feel a failure. You've taken the notes, you know where you've gone wrong, you've worked hard. Just put in that final effort to pull your marks up. You can do it!

OooohAhhhh · 12/09/2023 17:54

I'm doing OU degree, Forensic Psychology, I start level 3 in October. Was it the research project?
Sorry to hear. I know by re doing the EMA your score is capped.
So would you not consider re doing the year? Total arse I know, re doing those assignments, they are tough.

Oblomov23 · 12/09/2023 18:00

Can nothing else be done? Nothing at all? No resit? No resubmission of dissertation. No resit the year. Do anything to get your degree.

OooohAhhhh · 12/09/2023 18:04

Sorry, just seen your update.
All the best!

x2boys · 12/09/2023 18:05

loseridiot · 10/09/2023 21:49

Thank you all for being so kind and your time even though don't deserve either.

Can resit and had a tutor session but no further forward. Still struggling to know where to improve. There's also the option to resit the year and do same or different subject but it was Psychology. Always wanted to do that. Stupid useless idiot. Won't pass either way. Got diplomas and not having another. It was the degree to prove something. Going to tell them not to post it.

Lot's of people fail.an assignment if there is an option of retaking it why not ?
I remember failing my final assignment when I did my nursing dip!one many years ago ,I resat and passed ,what's the point in wasting all.this time and effort?

x2boys · 12/09/2023 18:07

loseridiot · 12/09/2023 16:33

Thanks so much. It is hard and you're wise to do a course first and build up. Should have done that in hindsight!

Thanks a lot. Need to resubmit this week so not much time. Will just do best then wait and see. Really hope yours goes well. It's hard but very interesting!

Ah well.done should have rtft!😂

loseridiot · 12/09/2023 18:18

@Inthisspace thanks so much and I'm so sorry you had the same. It's so hard and yes it might not always be the answer but well done on getting a first despite everything. Just shows what an intelligent and hard worker you are. Hope you got want you wanted in any case :)

Thanks for all the extremely kind comments. It's so appreciated.

@OooohAhhhh Yes, the research project where you have to get two outside sources in the last year. It was difficult to fit it all together and that's where it didn't flow. Wish you all the best on your course.

Just to clarify, the resit will be done. Still unsure about it all but nothing to lose.

Thanks again and will go quiet for a while as there's clearly lots of work to be done. Please take care of yourselves Flowers

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Gemma273 · 12/09/2023 21:08

Hi I've not read all replies but didn't want to read and run, I done a course through OU many years ago and it was such a struggle - mine was through work and hardly anyone passed it and the tutors were highly unhelpful and quite frankly downright rude but what really really helped me was joining a FB group for the particular course and there was so many helpful pointers if this is an option for you. You may have done this already but just didn't want to not put it out there if you didn't know about it.

aintnothinbutagstring · 12/09/2023 21:36

Hi OP - seasoned OU student here, have done a degree and masters with them. My degree is in psychology. Which module did you fail? Was this the first level 3 psychology course for you or did you do others at level 2? I would definitely consider a resit and reaching out for tutor support with this. Did you have to submit any drafts of your EMA to your tutor or have any supervision meetings prior to submission?
You've gotten this far, you just need to get a few more marks - it is achievable.

LameBorzoi · 13/09/2023 10:48

Good luck OP!

loseridiot · 13/09/2023 13:45

Thanks a lot again.

The OU doesn't seem to be the best education provider from the comments on here and that's a pity as I can see the appeal.

Not on Facebook or social media due to not wanting to be found by ex-family, but great suggestion thanks and sorry your experience was so difficult. That must have been isolating. Thank goodness you found others and well done!

I posted on the student forum and tried to look for student buddies but the forum was very quiet and no interest.

It was Level 3. Passed Level 2. Didn't do Level 1 Psychology as it's an open degree. Was on track to complete in five years instead of 6 as did 90 credits for two years comprising of languages and the study of languages and culture. Just did Level 2 and 3 for Psychology.

Well done on getting a masters! No to drafts or tutor checking work prior. They don't even give feedback for EMA's. It was a hour support session over Teams with a different tutor after being offered a resit, as it was a case of whoever was available to give hints and tips.

Thanks so much to everybody and hope anybody reading this considering studying is helped.

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