Why do people look down on council houses

[Easystuff]

Just that really why do others look down on council/social houses. I don't understand. There's no special treatment. It's not unusual, it's been about for many years. It's now pretty hard to get social housing. There are thousands of family waiting lists, being made homeless. Through no fault of their own. It's pretty awful out there.

I hear more jealousy towards people who have social housing than anything else. Social tenants that have security in a home they like have hit the jackpot really, so it’s understandable that people feel jealous of their fortune.

You've missed the point of the post you are quoting.

The poster is pointing out it isn't "free".

It's not free. It's a more affordable rent, admittedly, but council /housing association tenants still pay rent unless they are on certain benefits.

They aren't though they pay rent and they also have to work for it

Read the thread. 🤣

Yes, we paid off our mortgage within 7 years so were then in a better position financially. We also were able to sell and had more freedom of choice than a council tenant may.

Many council tenants don’t have a big choice in where they can live but many have a secure tenancy and are protected against huge rent rises.

Housing associations are a joke.

They blame tenants for their lack of repairs, and even kill of children and adults due to it.

I would say it's an order - home owner, HA renting followed by private renting.

It also depends on the area when 90k will get you a nice terrace, 140k buys a 3 bedroom semi and 270k get you a four bedroom detached, whilst 1.7m fry you a manner house. It means the only people living in social housing locally to us are benefit claimants which as a society is rightly discouraged.

Woah. That's amazing. My rent (now mortgage) was £1950 for similar house, to prove your point.

The hairdresser I briefly went to in Somerset (town with a long pier and not Clevedon) was beyond judgy and sneery about renters and anyone who hadn't had the leg up in life she'd had from firstly a rich daddy and then an older wealthy husband who'd bought her the salon as a nice little hobby job. Her constant sneering comments were the reason I found another hairdresser. She was also a rubbish hairdresser.

Round here it's because there is a big overlap with crime and antisocial behaviour, and a lot of the houses have rubbish outside, people parking on the grass verges etc. Not rocket science

What including the ones no one will employ due to their disability making them inconsistent employees?

Tbh my ex council house is probably bomb proof. No flimsy walls in this house.

However the estate is the worst place I've lived. No one cares, the council don't bother and there's no point in raising my head above the parapet and organising a neighbours group as I'll get a brick though my window. It's very depressing.

@blackrabbitwhiterabbit madness isn't it.

Stigma. Snobbiness about the people. Nothing to do with the housing.

I grew up in military housing. Now that is a shitshow!

Yes this. I grew up on a council estate and live near some now - so can speak from personal experience.

It was so obvious that's what you'd done. I'm exasperated for you!

Since when are council houses free

There’s a perception that someone is getting a property for cheaper than market rate. Or feeling hard done by by buying an ex council property that someone did well out of from right to buy.
Often associated with high levels of anti-social behaviour, and a stronger likelihood that people could move in who carry out anti-social behaviour even if it’s ok now.
Also associated with poverty: many people don’t like to feel poor even if they are.
It’s been stigmatised for many years - note the number of famous/successful people who mention it when talking about their upbringing.

I would love the security of social housing, we private rent and have been lucky to be in our current house for a while now but I know that could change at any time.
I don’t look down on social housing but I am aware of how horrendous some estates can be. I live not too far from where a very famous crime happened on an estate and the place is horrible. The crime should have been a trigger to improve areas like that but it wasn’t.

But people in private rent get help with rent to.

Nope. It is not linked at all to income.

@FlamMabel might be worth reporting your post and asking for it to be deleted. People will still be misunderstanding you 13 pages from now.

Well it’s because developers aren’t getting any profit when they develop affordable housing - they are doing it at cost. but they need to develop this housing under a so called section 106 obligation

so developers cut costs

As a generalisation, if you need social housing it means you cannot afford by any other means, which in turn, is likely because you are poor/living of benefits, possible as they cannot get a well paid enough job to support themselves , a lot of the time can stem from poor education and only able to work in minimal wage jobs. A lot of families this tends to follow on to the next generation and historically come from poor uneducated backgrounds etc.
all these families years ago lumped into these council estates and poverty and not living great lifestyles.
This isn’t everyone of course, some run into bad luck, but it’s why a lot of council estates end up run down and rough - it’s not exactly aspirational.

Are council houses free does anyone know?

That's the question no one seems to be willing to answer...