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Can you tell where someone is from from how they write on MN?

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Theystoleourrecipe · 02/09/2023 08:41

I've noticed that when going through posts, I'll read something and think, 'oh this person is from x, just by the words and phrases they use. I'll sometimes be able to localise this to a more specific region. I never look at usernames when I'm reading unless something really stands out to me, so I generally don't have any prior knowledge of the poster influencing me. Of course I can't be 100% sure but I would put a bet on being right, most of the time.

Do you ever recognise a particular region through how a poster writes? Are you conscious of how you write, making sure not to use colloquialisms unique to your area or do you not think about it, or do it anyway?

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ShoesoftheWorld · 02/09/2023 09:59

feralunderclass · 02/09/2023 09:57

What does outwith mean?

Outside of. I think more in abstract contexts like 'I can't help you with this, it's outwith my specialism'. Maybe a Scot can tell us whether you'd also say something like 'She lives in a house outwith the city centre'?

I love it and frequently curse its obscurity outwith Scotland because I would love to use it more.

BIWI · 02/09/2023 10:00

HeyYouWithTheSadFace · 02/09/2023 09:48

When people say 'we had to go hospital' - instead of 'we had to go to the hospital.'

It appears to be a dialect thing but I'm not sure where from. Maybe Yorkshire?

And yes, on the baby name board, when people are saying how to pronounce names. Some of them blow my mind! 😂 But it's just down to regional accents.

I don't think it's a Yorkshire thing - or at least it wasn't when I was growing up there! The first time I came across that was here, in Sarf Lunnen.

marshmallowfinder · 02/09/2023 10:00

Billiebollie · 02/09/2023 09:04

Do you?
I'm Irish and have never heard anyone say brought for bought - although as a pp said I suppose it could be regional.
But for what it's worth I've lived in Ireland all my life and have only seen people say brought for bought on MN.

But brought the kids to the beach is totally correct. It's not brought being used incorrectly, such as wankery like "I brought a house."

JenniferBarkley · 02/09/2023 10:01

ShoesoftheWorld · 02/09/2023 09:59

Outside of. I think more in abstract contexts like 'I can't help you with this, it's outwith my specialism'. Maybe a Scot can tell us whether you'd also say something like 'She lives in a house outwith the city centre'?

I love it and frequently curse its obscurity outwith Scotland because I would love to use it more.

Use it! Spread it far and wide.

Shayisgreat · 02/09/2023 10:02

JenniferBarkley · 02/09/2023 09:58

Anyone raising kids from a different region? I'm from Dublin but my kids are growing up in NI and those few miles can make quite the difference at times. Potty training a Northern Irish child involves saying the sentence "do you need a wee wee-wee" with a straight face. And when I brought (Wink) my two year old to a tile shop she was definitely puzzled at the lack of towels Grin

I'm Irish, living in se England, husband grew up in the Midlands and in-laws are Indian.

My DS has a very interesting mix of words. The funniest is he called the TV a Tweewee.

ShoesoftheWorld · 02/09/2023 10:03

JenniferBarkley · 02/09/2023 10:01

Use it! Spread it far and wide.

I did actually sneak it into something I was writing yesterday (I fully expect the person I'm sending it to, who is an international English speaker, to send me a puzzled comment back).

Ineedwinenow · 02/09/2023 10:03

TheLongGloriesOfTheWinterMoon · 02/09/2023 09:52

❤️❤️❤️
My daughter is at university in Bath and one boy on her course eats cobs (as indeed do we, despite not having lived there for years 😂) I've told her to marry him immediately.

You’re a wonderful mother! Parenting done right just there Grin

marshmallowfinder · 02/09/2023 10:04

Shayisgreat · 02/09/2023 09:16

I always know someone is English if they write "I was sat/stood there"

It's appalling English. Remember it's not something many English people would dream of saying, so don't tar them all with the same brush.

BIWI · 02/09/2023 10:05

It isn't 'appalling' at all! There's absolutely nothing wrong with regional dialects.

Whataretheodds · 02/09/2023 10:05

feralunderclass · 02/09/2023 09:13

I think though linguistically 'brought' is fine in that example? It's from the verb 'to bring' and equivalent to the verb 'to take'?

For me (not Irish), 'I brought the kids to the beach' would make sense if they were telling me while at the beach.
Once no longer at the beach I'd expect someone to say 'I took the kids to the beach' because the beach is somewhere else.

CurlewKate · 02/09/2023 10:05

I remember being baffled by being told to "uplift"my grant cheque at a Scottish university. Of course now the puzzling thing there is the concept of a "grant cheque".......

CaptainMyCaptain · 02/09/2023 10:06

marshmallowfinder · 02/09/2023 10:04

It's appalling English. Remember it's not something many English people would dream of saying, so don't tar them all with the same brush.

Agree. It should be 'I was standing'

BIWI · 02/09/2023 10:06

The other word that's always a giveaway is 'daps' or 'pumps', meaning 'plimsolls'.

We used the latter, in the North, which always confused me when I read all my Jane Austens and she talked about them wearing 'pumps'. I couldn't get the image of black or white gym shoes in combination with beautiful ball gowns, out of my head!

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 02/09/2023 10:06

Ditto to Mom = Midlands, if not US

Outwith - Scotland. Rare on MN though.

CurlewKate · 02/09/2023 10:07

For me "I brought the kids to school" would imply that I was still at the school.

Ineedwinenow · 02/09/2023 10:08

BitOutOfPractice · 02/09/2023 09:59

Well I’m from the best other part of the midlands (Black Country) and we clearly take our bread more seriously there because there’s a clear distinction between a crusty cob and a soft bap. What you heathens in the east call it is a mystery to me 😂

This type of shit is how the war of the roses started! Grin

In Derbyshire a cob is a cob, we don’t need two different words for one glorious piece of bakery goodness! Wink

feralunderclass · 02/09/2023 10:09

I've started hearing people say "here's me" to narrate what they said. Eg. He told me he wanted to end the relationship, and here's me, I want to end it too. No idea if it's a regional thing that has migrated or just a chester draws situation?
I had no idea "what age are you" is an Irish thing,I always use it. I did a TEFL course years back and couldn't understand why people didn't understand it.

CaptainMyCaptain · 02/09/2023 10:09

BIWI · 02/09/2023 10:05

It isn't 'appalling' at all! There's absolutely nothing wrong with regional dialects.

The person who mentioned 'I was stood' described it as English. It isn't Standard English although it could be described as a regional dialect..

GarlicGrace · 02/09/2023 10:10

I've only encountered this on MN - also Irish: Whenever, meaning when.

To me, whenever means:
~ every time: whenever I clean the windows, it rains
~ an almost impossible time: whenever did you do that?
~ a vaguely unspecified time: whenever you like (don't care)

Some Irish people say things like Whenever my father died, and it freaks me out slightly!

DownNative · 02/09/2023 10:11

Blossomandbee · 02/09/2023 09:30

Not unless it's something that stands out, like If I see 'aye' or 'wee' I think Scottish.
'Lush' I think south west.

Given the close historical links and travel between Northern Ireland & Scotland, the people in that region of the UK share many, many common things.

"Aye" & "wee" are two examples. We even have the baps with burnt tops in common which originated in Belfast in the 1840s!

Likewise, "lush" is south Wales and England's West Country.

I saw a bit of the argument about "brought" v "took". Its used similarly across the British Isles as in "I brought the kids to.....". England has far more language variation than anywhere else in these islands given its size. So it makes no sense to single out one particular region.

Personally, I use "I took the kids to..." and I'm not English. My schooling was in eastern Northern Ireland.

The point of the thread ISN'T whether language usage is correct or not. Its about asking if you can identify where a poster is from. 🤦‍♂️

Sgtmajormummy · 02/09/2023 10:11

I definitely hear Yorkshire when I read
“I went shop” because we reduce “to t’” to a glottal stop.
But mostly I read MN in a Victoria Wood voice.

BIWI · 02/09/2023 10:12

CaptainMyCaptain · 02/09/2023 10:09

The person who mentioned 'I was stood' described it as English. It isn't Standard English although it could be described as a regional dialect..

Which was my point! It was described as 'appalling' - which is definitely isn't.

Wallywobbles · 02/09/2023 10:12

Regional language is not "wrong". Any more than RP is "right".

watcherintherye · 02/09/2023 10:12

I live in a county verging on the South West, and people often say ‘somewhen’ instead of ‘sometime’, and ‘where’s it to?’ or ‘where’s that to?’ for ‘where is it?’, of a misplaced object, or an enquiry about where a place is.

JenniferBarkley · 02/09/2023 10:14

BIWI · 02/09/2023 10:06

The other word that's always a giveaway is 'daps' or 'pumps', meaning 'plimsolls'.

We used the latter, in the North, which always confused me when I read all my Jane Austens and she talked about them wearing 'pumps'. I couldn't get the image of black or white gym shoes in combination with beautiful ball gowns, out of my head!

Gutties here, which is still strange to me twenty years after first hearing it.