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Can you tell where someone is from from how they write on MN?

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Theystoleourrecipe · 02/09/2023 08:41

I've noticed that when going through posts, I'll read something and think, 'oh this person is from x, just by the words and phrases they use. I'll sometimes be able to localise this to a more specific region. I never look at usernames when I'm reading unless something really stands out to me, so I generally don't have any prior knowledge of the poster influencing me. Of course I can't be 100% sure but I would put a bet on being right, most of the time.

Do you ever recognise a particular region through how a poster writes? Are you conscious of how you write, making sure not to use colloquialisms unique to your area or do you not think about it, or do it anyway?

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JenniferBarkley · 02/09/2023 09:32

JenniferBarkley · 02/09/2023 09:30

Nah, she's right to be annoyed.

These threads occur weekly, and always involve people (typically English) slagging off perfectly correct standard Irish or Scottish language. Many of us are hyper aware of it now and have no truck with posters correcting language that isn't incorrect.

Btw should've clarified that I'm not slagging off OP who has started an interesting thread with a curious tone which is a wonderful exception.

TheLongGloriesOfTheWinterMoon · 02/09/2023 09:32

JenniferBarkley · 02/09/2023 09:28

Fancy seeing you here Grin

I did open the thread thinking "oh! An interesting language thread that's not been started with the premise of "Chester draws/should of" mwahaha look at the thicko""

But our work might be cut out for us.

(Thank you btw for the interesting Irish-English comparison- I'm doing beginner's Irish on Duolingo 😂 but it'll be some years before I manage to say a word I expect!)

VisionsOfSplendour · 02/09/2023 09:32

feralunderclass · 02/09/2023 09:30

I follow someone on Facebook who frequently visits "hospickle". I remember posting about it and a few irrate posters claimed it's a very regional Mancunian pronunciation and accepted spelling of hospital!

Acceotable spelling if you're under the age of 5😂

LizzieAnt · 02/09/2023 09:33

VisionsOfSplendour · 02/09/2023 09:09

Yes, took is the correct word

Brought is also correct in Ireland though. Bring and take are used differently here. I think sometimes there's an assumption that people are making mistakes, when actually they're just using a different form of English as their standard.

Westfacing · 02/09/2023 09:35

feralunderclass · 02/09/2023 09:30

I follow someone on Facebook who frequently visits "hospickle". I remember posting about it and a few irrate posters claimed it's a very regional Mancunian pronunciation and accepted spelling of hospital!

Regional pronunciation is one thing but surely not an acceptable spelling, maybe they're being jokey, as in 'norty'?

toadasoda · 02/09/2023 09:35

Mycatisthebestever · 02/09/2023 09:32

I think "wee" is used by many who are not Scottish and lush is Welsh 😂

Yeah I would associate 'wee' as Northern Ireland but I think it's also common in the Irish border counties. I've definitely heard it from people from Donegal. I think its lovely.

Mycatisthebestever · 02/09/2023 09:35

and "t'internet"

EmmaPaella · 02/09/2023 09:36

Mycatisthebestever · 02/09/2023 09:32

I think "wee" is used by many who are not Scottish and lush is Welsh 😂

Welsh and South West.

feralunderclass · 02/09/2023 09:37

I love mumsnet. I learned about comparative adjectives from the housekeeping board, where someone asked about a recommendation for a tumble drier and a very helpful poster went to great lengths to point out it was a dryer and provided the rules.

CurlewKate · 02/09/2023 09:39

"Lush" is interesting. My nieces who grew up in Wales use it-so that does tie in with SW, I suppose.

EmmaPaella · 02/09/2023 09:39

feralunderclass · 02/09/2023 09:37

I love mumsnet. I learned about comparative adjectives from the housekeeping board, where someone asked about a recommendation for a tumble drier and a very helpful poster went to great lengths to point out it was a dryer and provided the rules.

Fabulous. I never knew that.

LizzieAnt · 02/09/2023 09:40

Sorry, posted before reading far enough to see your posts @TheLongGloriesOfTheWinterMoon and @JenniferBarkley. You had it covered😊

feralunderclass · 02/09/2023 09:40

Westfacing · 02/09/2023 09:35

Regional pronunciation is one thing but surely not an acceptable spelling, maybe they're being jokey, as in 'norty'?

No they were insisting it was an accepted regional thing. Similar to when a poster complained that everyone called her son Fear-door (Theodore) and posters were responding "but that is the way it's pronounced?".

CurlewKate · 02/09/2023 09:41

My Fil, who was from Tipperary used "grand" in so many ways. Including in accepting an apology "I'm so sorry I'm late!" "Ah, your're grand." I do miss him.

ShoesoftheWorld · 02/09/2023 09:42

Thank you @JenniferBarkley for the bring/take explanation! German uses 'bringen' in a very similar way - 'nehmen' (take) is only for taking something from someone/thing else or with a prefix for taking something along with you/away from somewhere ('mitnehmen', to take with - so you'll have a sentence like 'Ich bringe mein Kind in die Schule and nehme das Baby mit' - I'm taking my child to school and taking the baby with me').

The non-rhotic speakers are obvious on here - when they say, for example, that they pronounce 'bath' as' barth' (as opposed to typing something like 'baaahth') or contend that 'giraffe' does indeed rhyme with 'scarf' and Julia Donaldson was perfectly right, thank you. (I say this as a 'Standard' (ha) Southern English and as such non-rhotic speaker).

Other Irishisms (or what I think are Irishisms) I spot on occasion, aside from the ones already mentioned, are 'give out to someone' and asking what age someone is as opposed to how old they are.

Theystoleourrecipe · 02/09/2023 09:43

At the end of sentences:

So
Grand so.

Interested in the origins of the use of these words in the Irish context.

I'll go and get the car, so.

Tea or coffee? Tea? Grand, so.

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GoodWillDrafting · 02/09/2023 09:43

If someone asks “what age are you?” I assume they’re Irish. As an English person, I’d say “how old are you?”

JenniferBarkley · 02/09/2023 09:44

GoodWillDrafting · 02/09/2023 09:43

If someone asks “what age are you?” I assume they’re Irish. As an English person, I’d say “how old are you?”

Confused I never knew this was an Irish thing.

Theystoleourrecipe · 02/09/2023 09:45

I always say 'what age are you?' Rather than how old. Never realised it was an Irishism! 😎

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JenniferBarkley · 02/09/2023 09:45

EmmaPaella · 02/09/2023 09:39

Fabulous. I never knew that.

Me neither, I'm never sure which it is. Maybe I'll remember this time (doubtful).

ShoesoftheWorld · 02/09/2023 09:45

Ah, that's interesting - I assumed it was Irish because I've heard it from Irish people and never from speakers of other Englishes.

JenniferBarkley · 02/09/2023 09:46

JenniferBarkley · 02/09/2023 09:44

Confused I never knew this was an Irish thing.

Supposed to be Shock not Confused, it's really interesting

DownNative · 02/09/2023 09:46

VisionsOfSplendour · 02/09/2023 09:04

Scots are the only people who use the word outwith, thats a giveaway as soon as you see it

If people use bring/brought instead of take/took I know they might be Irish but mostly they don't know that it's wrong as there can't be that many Irish posters

No, they are NOT! I'm definitely not Scottish and grew up using it in Norn Iron. And I don't know any Scottish people who use it.

Northern Irish, but live in the Highlands. 🤷‍♂️

BitOutOfPractice · 02/09/2023 09:47

JenniferBarkley · 02/09/2023 09:30

Nah, she's right to be annoyed.

These threads occur weekly, and always involve people (typically English) slagging off perfectly correct standard Irish or Scottish language. Many of us are hyper aware of it now and have no truck with posters correcting language that isn't incorrect.

Just a slight adjustment to what you’re rightly saying there @JenniferBarkley

It’s not all English people with the corrections. It’s people from SE England. They love to correct us English plebs from the provinces too.

EmmaPaella · 02/09/2023 09:47

Theystoleourrecipe · 02/09/2023 09:43

At the end of sentences:

So
Grand so.

Interested in the origins of the use of these words in the Irish context.

I'll go and get the car, so.

Tea or coffee? Tea? Grand, so.

I used to live with some Irish girls and always thought that Irish expressions make conversation so much easier. ‘So’ being one of them. It beautifully ties up a sentence without the need for any faffing around.

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