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What do you want from a teashop?

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littleteapotandcake · 01/09/2023 15:55

I'm at the very early stages of looking at taking over a teashop in a small seaside town. I would interested in finding out what you like or don't like when you visit or any advice from anyone who has done/is running a teashop now. TIA

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TroysMammy · 06/09/2023 07:49

A variety of tea and I don't mean English Breakfast, Earl Grey, lemon tea, mint tea and fruit tea like you get everywhere. Something different like loose leaf Rwandan, Kenyan, Darjeeling, Russian, Caravan, Keemun for example but you can get some in teabag form.

In proper cups and saucers with a teapot. You can get small teapots with infusers inside which would make emptying easier for loose leaf.

I had an English Breakfast tea in a beautifully decorated cafe only the tea was presented a bag in a perspex mug and I was charged £3 for that. The cafe didn't last long.

justasking111 · 06/09/2023 07:52

@littleteapotandcake go to Betty's, they've got it right. Photograph their menus. Go through their website. Make notes on what they do that you could adapt.

Check out your local competitors. Whose busiest in your area.

Women decide where tea rooms are concerned so please nice loos.

TroysMammy · 06/09/2023 07:52

Butter you can spread not solid pats you struggle to get on toast, teacakes and scones.

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bruffin · 06/09/2023 07:54

TroysMammy · 06/09/2023 07:49

A variety of tea and I don't mean English Breakfast, Earl Grey, lemon tea, mint tea and fruit tea like you get everywhere. Something different like loose leaf Rwandan, Kenyan, Darjeeling, Russian, Caravan, Keemun for example but you can get some in teabag form.

In proper cups and saucers with a teapot. You can get small teapots with infusers inside which would make emptying easier for loose leaf.

I had an English Breakfast tea in a beautifully decorated cafe only the tea was presented a bag in a perspex mug and I was charged £3 for that. The cafe didn't last long.

https://www.nisbets.co.uk/forlife-stump-teapot-blue-400ml/cx586?vatToggle=incvat&cm_mmc=PLA--19650569940--144325576445--CX586&cm_mmca1=go_19650569940_144325576445_647502151651_aud-971915563639%3Apla-2007586083062_c&kpid=go_cmp-19650569940_adg-144325576445_ad-647502151651_aud-971915563639%3Apla-2007586083062_dev-c_ext-_prd-CX586_sig-CjwKCAjwo9unBhBTEiwAipC11-1RVq3Bvo5qtZQVzLSpOSLAYSKeP22c84C3Q1vCPwFOIZtIhsCw4RoCancQAvD_BwE&gclid=CjwKCAjwo9unBhBTEiwAipC11-1RVq3Bvo5qtZQVzLSpOSLAYSKeP22c84C3Q1vCPwFOIZtIhsCw4RoCancQAvD_BwE
These are really good, they use them in places like the Tate, we have had one for years and DH can get a very large mug out of it or 2 normal cups

Doingmybest12 · 06/09/2023 07:54

Not sure if this has been mentioned, well trained staff who know not to pick up cups and mugs from the top. And if you allow dogs for staff not to be fussing the dogs in between serving. These are pet peaves of mine.

Doingmybest12 · 06/09/2023 07:57

It's an odd thing perfectly happy with a tea bag in a mug at home or when visiting friends but if it comes like that in a tea shop , I feel totally let down.

justasking111 · 06/09/2023 07:58

"PEGGY PORSCHEN BELGRAVIA, London - Belgravia - Updated 2023 Restaurant Reviews, Menu & Prices - Tripadvisor" https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Restaurant_Review-g186338-d3573166-Reviews-Peggy_Porschen_Belgravia-London_England.html

Check out

justasking111 · 06/09/2023 08:01

"BARKER TEA HOUSE, Cardiff - Updated 2023 Restaurant Reviews, Photos & Phone Number - Tripadvisor" https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Restaurant_Review-g186460-d6369790-Reviews-Barker_Tea_House-Cardiff_South_Wales_Wales.html

justasking111 · 06/09/2023 08:03

"UPSTAIRS AT ANNAS, Conwy - Updated 2023 Restaurant Reviews, Menu & Prices - Tripadvisor" https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Restaurant_Review-g186437-d21121377-Reviews-Upstairs_At_Annas-Conwy_Conwy_County_North_Wales_Wales.html

bruffin · 06/09/2023 08:09

https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Restaurant_Review-g186460-d5577965-Reviews-Honeybee_House_Tearoom-Cardiff_South_Wales_Wales.html#photos;aggregationId=101&albumid=101&filter=7&ff=105303554
The Honeybee Tearoom on the edge of Cardiff seem to have got it right. We went for breakfast when we went for DD graduation and it was really lovely

Our normal goto locally is a coffee place rather than a tearoom, it is an independent roastery and always a very busy, Allows dogs , also makes a nice tea for DH , has a free workspace area upstairs as well, displays by local artists. They also have expanded to other local towns across Herts. They tend to do wholemeal cakes, and cannolis and Pastei de Nata to die for.

https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Restaurant_Review-g186305-d13392184-Reviews-Hertford_Coffee_Lab-Hertford_Hertfordshire_England.html#photos;aggregationId=101&albumid=101&filter=7&ff=301903961

These are two very different type of tearooms but we liked them equally

GLORIAGloriarse · 06/09/2023 08:49

Homemade cakes, flavoursome, quality ingredients, not over sweet massive cupcake style with loads of buttercream. Nothing in sachets, old mismatched china, if you're doing savoury food/ sandwiches then veggie options please such as cheese or egg, not just vegan (this goes for all food outlets), hot enough water, maybe some interesting varieties of tea such as pu'er or oolong.

littleteapotandcake · 06/09/2023 11:40

*justasking111
Thank you for your suggestions. I seem to be spending all my days on Trip Advisor.
I just need to decide whether the premises are what I want, I know the location is perfect.

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inloveandmarried · 06/09/2023 12:01

I'm so very fussy with tea shops. Fabrics work to absorb noise, not so practical but good with acoustics. Even cushions on comfy chairs do the job.

I like really good tea. This starts with a warmed pot and freshly boiled water. So many places use water from a coffee machine which makes a wet teabag not tea!
Also don't put a tea bag on the side for the customer to add.
They then have to wait 4 minutes to pour it and the water temperature drops and won't make tea (see above). Serve the tea with a decent jug of milk and rustic sugar cubes in a dish.

Not many people know how to make tea these days.

Another thing that's much appreciated is some low GI with high protein options for those struggling with high blood sugar. Even a bag of nuts ticks this box.

I like very fresh, moist cakes. Scones should be made in the morning and binned at tea time. Never freeze and defrost a scone to serve to a customer, it's an abomination. They are fast and cheap to make and delicious fresh.

If you offer cream teas make them traditional. Too many coffee shops mess with perfection. Fresh scone, clotted cream, strawberry preserve. Cucumber sandwiches made with proper butter, salt & pepper and crust cut off. Exceptionally fresh bread. Smoked salmon and cream cheese, roast beef and mustard, all with crusts off.
And a selection of beautiful traditional tiny cakes.

I've had some abominations called a cream tea. Sadly they reminded me more of the Vicar of Dibley than the Ritz.

justasking111 · 06/09/2023 12:02

littleteapotandcake · 06/09/2023 11:40

*justasking111
Thank you for your suggestions. I seem to be spending all my days on Trip Advisor.
I just need to decide whether the premises are what I want, I know the location is perfect.

I'd make it yours once you settle in. You don't have to rush into a revamp immediately. Set some money aside monthly and enjoy the planning. Colour scheme, furniture, furnishings. Hard floors and no drapes make a place very noisy. Get reps in for china etc if you want a cohesive look. Carpets go for contract quality, they get hammered. Depending on location is how lucrative your business will be. BUT if it's seasonal. Don't forget your locals. They'll see the through the dead months.

You can have hard floors in the dog area. ESP if you get a lot of walkers.

ManchesterGirl2 · 06/09/2023 12:51

This thread is making me want cake.

littleteapotandcake · 06/09/2023 13:55

justasking111 · 06/09/2023 12:02

I'd make it yours once you settle in. You don't have to rush into a revamp immediately. Set some money aside monthly and enjoy the planning. Colour scheme, furniture, furnishings. Hard floors and no drapes make a place very noisy. Get reps in for china etc if you want a cohesive look. Carpets go for contract quality, they get hammered. Depending on location is how lucrative your business will be. BUT if it's seasonal. Don't forget your locals. They'll see the through the dead months.

You can have hard floors in the dog area. ESP if you get a lot of walkers.

Edited

Do you run a teashop yourself?
The one I'm looking at definitely needs an immediate revamp. They've done nothing to it for 15 years.

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justasking111 · 06/09/2023 15:19

littleteapotandcake · 06/09/2023 13:55

Do you run a teashop yourself?
The one I'm looking at definitely needs an immediate revamp. They've done nothing to it for 15 years.

We created a tea room from scratch. You're going into an existing business which is a plus. I'd hold off until after Christmas, do your Refurb January, February, . Personally I'd close down and hit it hard. You will need any workmen in place for those months. You maybe eligible for tourism grants so investigate now.

justasking111 · 06/09/2023 15:21

How many covers in your teashop @littleteapotandcake

MarkWithaC · 06/09/2023 16:01

EquallyDetermined · 05/09/2023 21:42

Loads of people go for coffee before work, I stopped at 7.45 today to pick up a coffee, lots of tables taken, dog-walkers outside, people inside reading and lots coming in for a takeaway coffee and croissant. This was a coffee not a teashop but maybe the same applies. The thread a few weeks ago had many cafe owners explaining why it simply isn't viable to stay open past about 3.30 pm, the trade just isn't there and you have to pay a second shift of staff. Especially if you have been up since before dawn baking handmade cakes etc. There are plenty of pubs where you can get a hot drink later in the afternoon. I can't imagine many want to eat cakes etc after about 3 as it would put them off their dinner.

I don't like going to pubs, the vibe is very different from the atmosphere in a tea shop, and they never have nice tea or coffee.
If you have dinner at 7.30–8pm like I do (and I'm sure I'm not alone), 4 or 5pm is a perfectly sensible time to have tea and cake.

snurtifier · 06/09/2023 16:07

Proper tea, made with leaves, in a pot, with a separate jug of hot water.

It never ceases to amaze me how many cafes will go to extraordinary lengths to make their super special coffee, whilst fobbing off tea drinkers with a tea bag in a mug of warm water.

Christmasbird · 06/09/2023 16:12

Little cakes on cake stands, teapots, bookcase with old classics and ladybird books for children

EquallyDetermined · 06/09/2023 16:42

MarkWithaC · 06/09/2023 16:01

I don't like going to pubs, the vibe is very different from the atmosphere in a tea shop, and they never have nice tea or coffee.
If you have dinner at 7.30–8pm like I do (and I'm sure I'm not alone), 4 or 5pm is a perfectly sensible time to have tea and cake.

I disagree, more and more pubs are catering to the daytime coffee and cake trade and are much more welcoming than they used to be. I admit the tea isn't great though. I also eat dinner at 7-8ish and a cake at 3 would definitely spoil my appetite but we are all different.

MarkWithaC · 06/09/2023 16:47

EquallyDetermined · 06/09/2023 16:42

I disagree, more and more pubs are catering to the daytime coffee and cake trade and are much more welcoming than they used to be. I admit the tea isn't great though. I also eat dinner at 7-8ish and a cake at 3 would definitely spoil my appetite but we are all different.

I didn't say pubs weren't welcoming, but they're still not somewhere I personally would enjoy sitting with tea and cake and maybe a book.

EquallyDetermined · 06/09/2023 16:50

Whereas I do it quite frequently

Borntobeamum · 06/09/2023 16:58

I used to go to a little cafe with the children I minded after school on a Friday.
the price of juice and toast was really reasonable and we all dug in with delight, choosing just butter or jam/honey/marmite.

The children have grown and some have children of their own but still have such happy memories of ‘toast at the cafe’.

Charging needs to be well thought out.
Don’t get pretentious.
Keep it simple and people will come.