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Summa23 · 2023-08-23T19:51:14+00:00

Ds is a policeman. He has to work 2 days 7am-4pm then 2-11pm for 2 days. Then 4 days of 10pm till 7pm. Plus any over time that happens. He then get 2 days off. Day 1 is spent kind of sleeping. Due to the over night working. 2nd day of. Then back to work . For 7am. Body clock is awful.

MrsSkylerWhite · 23/08/2023 22:45

I worked in a merchant bank then for an MP. 7 am-7pm most days with the first, even longer hours with the second 🤷‍♀️
Doesn't sound too bad, especially when he can presumably retire after 30 years service with a decent pension.

CrappyBarbara · 23/08/2023 22:46

Summa23 · 23/08/2023 21:07

I'm not asking Anything . Should I be ?

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Traditionally that’s how it works, yes.

user1471464218 · 23/08/2023 22:49

I do shifts and that sounds awful. Even more so if it's a repeating pattern and not just a one off. 48 hrs coming off nights to change to earlies doesn't leave much time for real life!

Tulipvase · 23/08/2023 22:50

MrsSkylerWhite · 23/08/2023 22:45

I worked in a merchant bank then for an MP. 7 am-7pm most days with the first, even longer hours with the second 🤷‍♀️
Doesn't sound too bad, especially when he can presumably retire after 30 years service with a decent pension.

Do you really think the potential threat level was the same? It isn’t just about hours worked.

MeYouAndEllaToo · 23/08/2023 22:50

Tulipvase · 23/08/2023 22:38

I’m glad you would say that. I stand by my thoughts though that the police are more hard done by than similar professions.

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If you choose a career you know what you’re getting in to. I’m not talking about being hard done by. The OP’s son has chosen a career, they knew what shifts were expected. It’s in the terms and conditions of employment. If the OPs son feels ‘hard done by’ there’s plenty other careers to choose from. I would never comment on my children’s career choices, she’s over invested in her adult children’s lives.

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Summa23 · 23/08/2023 22:50

CrappyBarbara · 23/08/2023 22:46

Traditionally that’s how it works, yes.

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No that's not true. I can post on mn I don't have to ask a question. Is it in the rules? If it is I apologise

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Tulipvase · 23/08/2023 22:52

MeYouAndEllaToo · 23/08/2023 22:50

If you choose a career you know what you’re getting in to. I’m not talking about being hard done by. The OP’s son has chosen a career, they knew what shifts were expected. It’s in the terms and conditions of employment. If the OPs son feels ‘hard done by’ there’s plenty other careers to choose from. I would never comment on my children’s career choices, she’s over invested in her adult children’s lives.

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Yes you do. Pay as well as working hours.

Roo84 · 23/08/2023 22:54

Nickynacky, no they are a day shift. Ours are 2 earlies, 2 lates. 2 nights, 4 off with one training day on the last rest day every 10 weeks. So you effectively loose a rest day that set.

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Summa23 · 23/08/2023 22:54

MeYouAndEllaToo · 23/08/2023 22:50

If you choose a career you know what you’re getting in to. I’m not talking about being hard done by. The OP’s son has chosen a career, they knew what shifts were expected. It’s in the terms and conditions of employment. If the OPs son feels ‘hard done by’ there’s plenty other careers to choose from. I would never comment on my children’s career choices, she’s over invested in her adult children’s lives.

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Over invested. Because I said I felt bad for him. I would rather show an interest and that I care about him rather than be cold .

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Nicknacky · 23/08/2023 22:56

Roo84 · 23/08/2023 22:54

Nickynacky, no they are a day shift. Ours are 2 earlies, 2 lates. 2 nights, 4 off with one training day on the last rest day every 10 weeks. So you effectively loose a rest day that set.

The op is saying he works “forced” shifts on a night shift. Regularly by the sound of it.

Joystir59 · 23/08/2023 22:57

Summa23 · 23/08/2023 21:19

There are (forced) worldwide days your not allowed to refuse. And over time could be because there was a kite arrest or something like that you can't just leave when the clock says 10pm for example

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What's a kite arrest?

MeYouAndEllaToo · 23/08/2023 22:58

Summa23 · 23/08/2023 22:54

Over invested. Because I said I felt bad for him. I would rather show an interest and that I care about him rather than be cold .

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He is an adult and has made his own career choice. Why feel bad for him? He may really enjoy his job.

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Summa23 · 23/08/2023 22:58

Joystir59 · 23/08/2023 22:57

What's a kite arrest?

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Late arrest sorry.

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MrsSkylerWhite · 23/08/2023 22:59

Tulipvase · Today 22:50
MrsSkylerWhite · Today 22:45

I worked in a merchant bank then for an MP. 7 am-7pm most days with the first, even longer hours with the second 🤷‍♀️
Doesn't sound too bad, especially when he can presumably retire after 30 years service with a decent pension.
Do you really think the potential threat level was the same? It isn’t just about hours worked.”

In the second role, on many occasions yes, especially at constituency surgeries in London.

Presumably, OP’s son was aware of potential threat when he signed up as a police officer? Naively, as a 22 year old woman at the time, I hadn’t been.

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Summa23 · 23/08/2023 23:00

MeYouAndEllaToo · 23/08/2023 22:58

He is an adult and has made his own career choice. Why feel bad for him? He may really enjoy his job.

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He said hes struggling. Why feel bad for him? Its called empathy . I'm his mum. He's my son I'm allowed to

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florenceandthemac · 23/08/2023 23:00

Can't believe they have them working 24 hours. Just no need for it at all

xyz111 · 23/08/2023 23:00

Threenow · 23/08/2023 21:27

Surely he didn't think it was a 9 - 5 job? How can someone join the police without having some idea of the work hours?

He's not moaning though. His mum is.

TeenLifeMum · 23/08/2023 23:01

My mum used to worry because dh and I both worked in the same field and work hours were 8.30-5 but in reality we had deadlines and worked work until 10pm most nights. We changed jobs before having children but then pay and pension etc were rubbish so we were mad to do the hours in hindsight, even for the kudos of a media job.

TeenLifeMum · 23/08/2023 23:02

I meant to add, it’s fine for a mum to worry. Are there opportunities for promotion that would change the shift pattern in the future that he could aim for?

Tulipvase · 23/08/2023 23:03

MrsSkylerWhite · 23/08/2023 22:59

Tulipvase · Today 22:50
MrsSkylerWhite · Today 22:45

I worked in a merchant bank then for an MP. 7 am-7pm most days with the first, even longer hours with the second 🤷‍♀️
Doesn't sound too bad, especially when he can presumably retire after 30 years service with a decent pension.
Do you really think the potential threat level was the same? It isn’t just about hours worked.”

In the second role, on many occasions yes, especially at constituency surgeries in London.

Presumably, OP’s son was aware of potential threat when he signed up as a police officer? Naively, as a 22 year old woman at the time, I hadn’t been.

I’m tempted to ask what your pension was like?

MeYouAndEllaToo · 23/08/2023 23:03

Summa23 · 23/08/2023 22:54

Over invested. Because I said I felt bad for him. I would rather show an interest and that I care about him rather than be cold .

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Personally, I raised my children to be independent individuals and to make their own choices. You helicopter parent an adult all you want. He made a choice, he knew the terms and conditions of employment. Perhaps he’s really happy in his job and doing the shifts? This isn’t about you OP.

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Summa23 · 23/08/2023 23:03

MrsSkylerWhite · 23/08/2023 22:59

Tulipvase · Today 22:50
MrsSkylerWhite · Today 22:45

I worked in a merchant bank then for an MP. 7 am-7pm most days with the first, even longer hours with the second 🤷‍♀️
Doesn't sound too bad, especially when he can presumably retire after 30 years service with a decent pension.
Do you really think the potential threat level was the same? It isn’t just about hours worked.”

In the second role, on many occasions yes, especially at constituency surgeries in London.

Presumably, OP’s son was aware of potential threat when he signed up as a police officer? Naively, as a 22 year old woman at the time, I hadn’t been.

My son is still in training. He cant leave now as he will loose his qualification.

I'm not sure how clear the hours/shifts were made. It could well be that he thought he could manage but can't. I know he struggles with sleep.

Either way I can still feel bad for him

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Summa23 · 23/08/2023 23:06

MeYouAndEllaToo · 23/08/2023 23:03

Personally, I raised my children to be independent individuals and to make their own choices. You helicopter parent an adult all you want. He made a choice, he knew the terms and conditions of employment. Perhaps he’s really happy in his job and doing the shifts? This isn’t about you OP.

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Helicopter parent . Because I show some empathy and understanding towards my son. Your talking shit

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Justcallmebebes · 23/08/2023 23:09

fyn · 23/08/2023 22:20

Don’t let him join the army… you’d really feel sorry for him then!

This

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Summa23 · 23/08/2023 23:10

TeenLifeMum · 23/08/2023 23:02

I meant to add, it’s fine for a mum to worry. Are there opportunities for promotion that would change the shift pattern in the future that he could aim for?

Apprently it's not ok .

Hes still training so not yet. I'm really hoping he might turn a corner to be honest and start to feel better. As it could be a good job. He has another 18 months . Which is a while yet so he will see how he gos

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