Does anyone else not like Dublin?

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First time in Dublin over the weekend and didn't get the hype
Really expensive (2 drinks 25 euro )
Some places in the city centre quite smelly /dirty
Some people rude especially on busses
I was paying my fare and they just pushed past me to tap the pass
I just don't get the hype of it

But why would you go somewhere where you feel unsafe and threatened?

I know this doesn't happen to all English people and people have different experiences in Ireland.

But several English people have told me that they felt extremely threatened and unsafe in Ireland. That's their experience. And people don't want to feel unsafe and scared.

Would you want to go to a country where you feel hated for no reason?

Again I know it's not everyones experience, but it is definitely some English people"s experience in ireland. They feel threatened

Where did you feel the safest?

@Mooshamoo You are right

@Mooshamoo And I say this knowing full well not everyone likes Preston which is the most loveliest place

I just don't think I would exclude an entire country and it's people based on one experience and hearsay from others. I had a horrible experience in Venice (who clearly had an issue with Brits) but wouldn't assume that everyone in the entire country felt that way, as I feel that's a massive generalisation. Totally up to you of course, you should do what you feel is right.

Acapulco, New Zealand, the Maldives, loads of places really. Never had the feeling of intimidation.

I lived in Ireland for 11 years. Never felt unsafe, threatened or hated. Quite the opposite - far more friendly, welcoming and safe than London.

Exactly why would you want to get a bus out of the city and an expensive taxi back in? Ridiculous.

Well, a minority of English people retain largely unconscious anti-Irish prejudices. I’d be asking myself what made your reaction so violent.

I say this as an Irish person who dealt with anti-Irishness periodically to varying degrees while living in different parts of England for 25 years — and which included physical intimidation from ex-soldiers who’d served in NI, professional discrimination, police discrimination, and lots of lower-level stuff (accent-mocking, accusations of being in the IRA, bafflement I’d gone to Oxford etc etc).

It still didn’t make me give up on an entire country. (Brexit did.)

That's a fairly extreme example of what a shithole Dublin is, really 😂
Could have happened anywhere.

Yeah it's sad , and I think it's such a waste of time when two neighbouring countries spend their time being cruel to each other. Its such a waste of years and of energy.

We should be supporting each other and moving forward together. It would be great for everyone , as we have to deal with each other a good bit. Peace. Anyway we will get there

Talking about Dublin. There are nice parts of Dublin I think. It's definitely worth looking around. There is a lot to see.

I went to Dublin solely for my first ever flight, the shortest one possible, and I thought it was rubbish. I'm not keen on all the happy clappy Irish jig guiness-y stuff anyway, so maybe it's just not for me. Apart from that, it was a city like anywhere else, I could have been in Newcastle. Wouldn't bother going back.

@OriginalBin You went to Oxford? 🥰🥰

@Rogerstreasures I really think you are taking it a bit far, some wierdos at a party in a city were openly hostile so you won't even consider visiting a whole country? Think of it in reverse, if I said I got intimidated by some guys on the London tube 5 years ago so I'm afraid to go to the Lake District now cos they all hate me?!

Those people at the party may well have been racist, but if everyone who experienced some form of racism decided everyone in that country was the same what state would the world be in. Every person i know has an uncle / grandparent etc who will tell stories of racism they experienced in the UK as an Irish Catholic, not hostile vibes but actual full on racism both socially and institutionally. I'm talking 30 yrs ago or more. Yet despite this almost everyone accepts that those days are gone and the people of Britain are no longer like this, generally we have very good relations. Possibly you met the exceptions and I know they exist sadly. But by making the assumption all Irish people are racist against you, you are no different to those you complain about.

Honestly, I don’t think that poster’s experience proves anything other than that some guests at one party were unfriendly, even though no one actually said or did anything unpleasant. Yes, maybe that poster encountered a suburban Dublin cell of fanatically anti-British neo-provos, but other explanations are available. So many Mners appear to regard other school parents talking to their friends in the playground as some kind of ‘bullying’ or ‘exclusion’, I’ve started to discount half of this stuff.

@LemonDrizzleDessert, I did. Fair scattering of Irish people there at the time.

They probably didn't bring a bag of cans to the party.

Well, that’s social suicide right there.😀

There is extreme hatred towards English people in Ireland

No matter how much I point out to Irish people that hating all English people doesn't make any sense, and that the people born in England today have nothing to do with what their ancestors did , it doesn't seem to get through to them . There is a real deep dark scary hatred in Ireland towards English people.

This just isn't true in the Republic of Ireland today @Mooshamoo.

No doubt there is anti-English sentiment sometimes, especially at matches etc, and we were very annoyed by Brexit and the lack of consideration shown - and of course a small minority of people are always going to be nasty xenophobic pricks. But the level of extreme widespread hatred you describe? No, not true.

And I know you'll come back and say I haven't experienced it so how can I know, but I can and do know how I personally feel towards English people and I'm aware of family and friends and societal attitudes too. And it's not the hatred you describe.

I’m English. Parents are Irish, as are cousins still over there etc. They hate the English. It is evident.

Do you have English friends? Just asking out of interest

I’m from the North and am quite old and so I remember Dublin when it was a glorious escape for a weekend in the late 80’s and 90’’s. Now it’s just a pretty ordinary city, much akin to Belfast but lots of boarded up shops etc whilst people ( students) are sleeping in their cars because of the housing crisis.
My dcs are in Galway. Not great either but my word the wild Atlantic way😮

Several neighbours are English, I'm friendly with them. Also friends with/socialised with several English work colleagues ( in a past job in Ireland). My best friends are still the people I was at school with, they're Irish.

Actually we took a few bottles of duty free spirits with us. The animosity came mostly from a dozen or so young men that were sat out in the garden.

This sounds so completely bizarre there has to be more to it.