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If it was proven that there is no afterlife

234 replies

magicalkitty · 13/08/2023 21:17

No heaven, no reincarnation, no seeing our loved ones again...
Would it make you live life or see things any differently?

I think a lot of everyday life things may suddenly seem very meaningless. A lot of us like to believe there is something else to come, even if not religious.

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fullbloom87 · 14/08/2023 01:16

@WantingToEducate

My daughter gets tonic clonic seizures nocturnally and partial during the day.
Maybe their experience is 'spiritual' maybe the electrical activity 'taps' them into the higher 'realm' or something.
Or maybe it's an entirely different thing all together.
But it certainly doesn't prove there's no afterlife. Like others have said there is so much we don't know and are still discovering.

TheYadaYada · 14/08/2023 01:17

Surely the ‘nothing after death’ is already proven?

Lightningspeed · 14/08/2023 01:18

You should publish. The best scientists in the world can't fully explain consciousness. Well done you.

fullbloom87 · 14/08/2023 01:18

@XDownwiththissortofthingX

See that's where you're going wrong in life. A true academic excels by researching the topics he knows the least about.

Threenow · 14/08/2023 01:19

I like to think that people are reunited after death, but I don't know, none of us do, we can't. However, if it was proven that there was no afterlife it wouldn't make the slightest difference to how I live my life now. I live my life for me, and not for people who are no longer here, and I'm not expecting some wonderful life awaiting me once I've gone. We get one shot at life, and it's in the here and now.

fullbloom87 · 14/08/2023 01:19

@TheYadaYada

Has it? Show me the proof

WantingToEducate · 14/08/2023 01:19

fullbloom87 · 14/08/2023 01:16

@WantingToEducate

My daughter gets tonic clonic seizures nocturnally and partial during the day.
Maybe their experience is 'spiritual' maybe the electrical activity 'taps' them into the higher 'realm' or something.
Or maybe it's an entirely different thing all together.
But it certainly doesn't prove there's no afterlife. Like others have said there is so much we don't know and are still discovering.

I don’t recall ever saying that seizure experiences prove there is no afterlife?

It was an example where sensations related to out of body experiences, or feeling close to God, or seeing Heaven etc can simply be a result of neurological dysfunction and not always a NDE.

Anyhow, I’m off to bed.

Not that I’ll be able to sleep with all this going around in my mind…. 😂

continentallentil · 14/08/2023 01:20

fullbloom87 · 14/08/2023 01:05

@continentallentil

I don't 'wish' for anything. I'm just interested in it. If you're more interested in love island or instagram then go you, but trying to convince people who have researched these things is futile.

I’m not sure where Love Island comes into it, but I am sure that thousands of scientists are not studying whether the oxygen starvation that happens to the brain during death is in fact proof of an afterlife. Your bring interest in it, does not mean it is a real area of research.

TheYadaYada · 14/08/2023 01:21

fullbloom87 · 14/08/2023 01:19

@TheYadaYada

Has it? Show me the proof

The proof is that there has never been any evidence whatsoever of an afterlife.

Annaishere · 14/08/2023 01:21

Same I was going to sleep and now my mind is buzzing about non local particles and the meaning of life

fullbloom87 · 14/08/2023 01:23

@WantingToEducate

But the point I made is that perhaps this neurological 'dysfunction'. Is their conscious bypassing the part of the brain that keeps us tapped into this conscience here on earth.
They call the pineal gland the third eye.

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 14/08/2023 01:23

fullbloom87 · 14/08/2023 01:12

@XDownwiththissortofthingX

My grandmother wasn't religious. She was a very matter of fact women who believed in nothing and was more interested in her hair and nails then anything else.

I'm not sure what the relevance of that is?

There's nothing about claiming to have experienced something supernatural that would mandate the person being a religious adherent.

If you claim you experienced something that you interpreted as the beginning of a journey to the afterlife, all that suggests is that you are open to the possibility of there being an afterlife, surely?

fullbloom87 · 14/08/2023 01:24

@continentallentil

I bet you're interesting to chat to in real life 🙄

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 14/08/2023 01:26

fullbloom87 · 14/08/2023 01:18

@XDownwiththissortofthingX

See that's where you're going wrong in life. A true academic excels by researching the topics he knows the least about.

I don't accept I'm 'going wrong in life', but whatever. Nor do I claim to be an 'academic'.

You brought up 'scientific studies' of NDE, so I assumed you had some sort of insight into them yourself. Apparently not though.

fullbloom87 · 14/08/2023 01:26

@XDownwiththissortofthingX

You linked the death bed visitor scenario to religious beliefs. So I told you that my grandmother was not religious.

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 14/08/2023 01:28

fullbloom87 · 14/08/2023 01:26

@XDownwiththissortofthingX

You linked the death bed visitor scenario to religious beliefs. So I told you that my grandmother was not religious.

No I did not 'link it to religious beliefs'. The opposite in fact.

Try reading that post again.

Lightningspeed · 14/08/2023 01:29

I think that very materialist people have just no imagination. They have never wondered why the protons and neutrons and electrons that make up a chair or a TV or a rock, in different configurations could make a cat or a person or an idea or a movie. They don't wonder about anything.

They can't cope with the fact we know the square root of fuck all about life.

fullbloom87 · 14/08/2023 01:30

@XDownwiththissortofthingX

Here's one for you www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2023.1048929

Conclusion is at the bottom

fullbloom87 · 14/08/2023 01:32

@Lightningspeed

I agree. It's a common denominator for closed minded people to be particularly interested in consumerism and appearances.

LordSalem · 14/08/2023 01:32

I’m wagering on that being the case. Just instant finish, no nothing (which is kind of okay with me because I associate it with sleep and I bloody love to sleep. Body relaxes, mind switched off it's all over.
I’m not religious at all but the thought of my babies and family members being there to meet me is a big hope. Body dead, yeah, but soul and other dimensions etc keeps hope alive. We'll all find out one way or another. Not one of us will be able to report back anyway.

Even if there was a hell, who'd know? Same thing with limbo for babies. They're just scare tactics when nothing could ever be proven anyway.

LordSalem · 14/08/2023 01:34

Luckydip1 · 13/08/2023 22:06

Life after death is the same as life before death, nothingness, no pain, no joy, no misery, no happiness. Our fantasies of life after death are just that, fantasies.

Do you mean life before birth? Otherwise that's a poor outlook on any given life.

Lightningspeed · 14/08/2023 01:40

fullbloom87 · 14/08/2023 01:32

@Lightningspeed

I agree. It's a common denominator for closed minded people to be particularly interested in consumerism and appearances.

So fucking true. Tbh I'm not even invested in an afterlife, I'd be really good with just blinking out of existence. Of all the theories the whole returning to oneness vibes with me tbh. The people being annoyed by anything other than materialistic bollocks just fail to see the whole absurdness of the human condition.

fullbloom87 · 14/08/2023 01:47

@Lightningspeed they do indeed. One poster was saying people believe in these things for comfort purposes but in my experience, it tends to be the more fearful that don't believe in anything. I think they're too scared to explore the fact that reality isn't as simple as they think and they would rather focus on what they can see. Either that or their brain just doesn't allow them to think that deeply.

andjustlikethat1 · 14/08/2023 02:22

NewYorkFirstTimer · 13/08/2023 21:20

I'd be devastated

Me too. I would be sad being on my best behaviour on all occasions. That's why I think the alien exposure in the next few years is going to make me be my true self.

TantalisingCantaloupe · 14/08/2023 02:39

The idea of an afterlife terrifies me; I don't think I believe in one, but in my worst moments I can do...

The offer of suicide, that when it is all finally too much, I can just go, is what gets me through each day and has for decades. I am not suicidal, I have no intention to die any time soon - but I have never, as long as I remember, failed to wish I had never existed. The idea of an infinite afterlife terifies me in a manner seemingly the same as the fear of only an 'earthly life' described by many here.

I live a life in which I do good; try to never hurt anyone wherever possible - and fix it as much as possible if I do; have a meaningful (badly paid) job. A just, well lived life. I would go utterly mad if I thought there was an eternity though. What I have is all I want. My loved dead are gone forever, held only in my (and other's) heart. One day, I will be the same. This gives me immense peace.

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