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NDN using our address on their P45 and Tax documents

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worriedandworries · 09/08/2023 13:42

I've just received a letter with my address on but when i've opened it, it was a p45 for my next door neighbour (who isnt meant to be able to work due to disabilties and get a whole host of benefits including housing benefits, pip and what ever else) but its got my address on it.

I'm guessing their doing this so that they don't have their housing benefit impacted in addition to losing whatever benefits they get due to working.

However i'm worried now what else are they putting in our address?!

What do I do? who do I speak to about this?

Do i need to report this somewhere as i'm worried about my house getting lots of debt linked to it?!

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worriedandworries · 09/08/2023 13:43

they're * (apologies for spelling issues)

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CherryMojito · 09/08/2023 13:44

I would start by looking online at HMRC.

MissDemelzaCarne · 09/08/2023 13:45

I’d send it back saying ‘not known at this address’.

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AmandaHoldensLips · 09/08/2023 13:46

Seal it up and put it back in the post marked WRONG ADDRESS or NOT AT THIS ADDRESS.

You could write on the back of the envelope THIS PERSON LIVES AT (correct address) PLEASE UPDATE YOUR RECORDS.

Yarnorama · 09/08/2023 13:47

Why did you open it and not just drop it round to them?

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worriedandworries · 09/08/2023 13:48

Yarnorama · 09/08/2023 13:47

Why did you open it and not just drop it round to them?

because its addressed to my address - it didnt have a name on the envelope.

i assumed it was a letter for me

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worriedandworries · 09/08/2023 13:51

do I need to speak to HMRC about it? is it fraud to avoid them having housing benefit impacted?

surely its linked to their national insurance number so shouldn't affect my credit or home etc.?

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BasiliskStare · 09/08/2023 13:52

I would send send it back saying "not at this address" return to sender as others have said.

BIWI · 09/08/2023 13:52

It must have had a name on it, surely?!

MissDemelzaCarne · 09/08/2023 13:53

How do you know for sure that it’s your NDN, unless their name is unique, presumably you don’t know their NI number

Reugny · 09/08/2023 13:53

worriedandworries · 09/08/2023 13:51

do I need to speak to HMRC about it? is it fraud to avoid them having housing benefit impacted?

surely its linked to their national insurance number so shouldn't affect my credit or home etc.?

No you don't need to speak to HMRC about it. They don't actually have the facilities for it.

Just pop it back in the envelope with and write something like "not known at this address" as PPs have said.

Do this for every single letter that you receive with the wrong name on it.

BarbaraofSeville · 09/08/2023 13:54

Debt is individual, so no need to worry about that.

You could just put it through their letterbox, seeing as you know who it's for. Employments and benefits are linked by NI numbers, and probably DoB so 'mistakenly' putting the wrong address on employment letters isn't going to throw anyone off the scent for long if they are claiming fraudulently.

Beamur · 09/08/2023 13:55

BasiliskStare · 09/08/2023 13:52

I would send send it back saying "not at this address" return to sender as others have said.

Do this.
With every item that's not for you.

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worriedandworries · 09/08/2023 13:55

BIWI · 09/08/2023 13:52

It must have had a name on it, surely?!

the p45 does - inside the envelope - the envelope doesn't, if it did i'd have just gave it to them

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worriedandworries · 09/08/2023 13:58

BarbaraofSeville · 09/08/2023 13:54

Debt is individual, so no need to worry about that.

You could just put it through their letterbox, seeing as you know who it's for. Employments and benefits are linked by NI numbers, and probably DoB so 'mistakenly' putting the wrong address on employment letters isn't going to throw anyone off the scent for long if they are claiming fraudulently.

That's all I need to know - thank you, i'll probably return to sender with a 'nobody with this name at this address' just so the company knows its a false address - if they want to sort it they can (i doubt they'd care but who knows).

I've had bailiffs come to my door once before for the previous owners of the house - it took me a long time to prove they don't live here anymore and lots of stress - i'm particularly sensitive to fraud and money issues as a result of it.

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Gilead · 09/08/2023 13:58

People on benefits are issued with P45s because some benefits are taxable. So it may be that they weren’t working and DWP have issued the document to the wrong address.

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worriedandworries · 09/08/2023 13:59

MissDemelzaCarne · 09/08/2023 13:53

How do you know for sure that it’s your NDN, unless their name is unique, presumably you don’t know their NI number

because its literally my next door neighbours name and birthdate - just with the address wrong by 1 number.

i dont think i need to know their NI number to be confident its for them?

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msbevvy · 09/08/2023 13:59

I don't see how giving your address would work as a fraud. Wouldn't his benefits all be linked to his NI number anyway?
It is more likely a clerical error with someone clicking on the wrong number in the drop-down box.

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worriedandworries · 09/08/2023 14:10

msbevvy · 09/08/2023 13:59

I don't see how giving your address would work as a fraud. Wouldn't his benefits all be linked to his NI number anyway?
It is more likely a clerical error with someone clicking on the wrong number in the drop-down box.

I'm completely unsure with how benefits are linked, I've been fortunate enough to never need to apply. I assumed fraud as they've recently told me they've completely unable to work due to their disabilities for multiple years, so its a surprise to see a p45.

With knowing their character and morals I wouldn't be too surprised if it was a false NI number in all honestly. But that's none of my business, and don't particularly care too much so long as it doesn't impact my house or my credit score as a result, they can do as they please.

I'll return to sender just in case it is a clerical error.

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coreas · 09/08/2023 14:18

Why don't you just give it to your neighbour?

'Oh, I got this an opened it by accident as no name was showing, they seem to have the wrong address for you'

Also people can get PIP and work and people can also get HB and work so before assuming your neighbour is committing fraud, perhaps know what you are talking about.

Ohthatsabitshit · 09/08/2023 14:23

Maybe he works from home but still receives UC and PIP, as so many disabled people do. I should think someone typed it in wrong.

TeaKitten · 09/08/2023 14:26

How do you no that the the address isn’t wrong be mistake? They might have selected the wrong one when putting the address in.

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worriedandworries · 09/08/2023 14:28

coreas · 09/08/2023 14:18

Why don't you just give it to your neighbour?

'Oh, I got this an opened it by accident as no name was showing, they seem to have the wrong address for you'

Also people can get PIP and work and people can also get HB and work so before assuming your neighbour is committing fraud, perhaps know what you are talking about.

The only reason I assumed fraud is because I was told by them that they cannot and have not been able to work for a long time due to their disabilities.

I did not assume this because they're claiming PIP - I have a number of family and friends who work and claim PIP/housing benefit at the same time because of their disabilities, I also have family who should not be working due to illness but have to due to not being approved the higher levels of PIP - I know how hard it is to get the benefits they deserve, hence why I was surprised and immediately went to fraud when I saw their p45.

Please don't make me into an ignorant person when I absolutely am not, I do know what i'm talking about, I just don't fully understand how they are tracked to households/people as i've never required them personally.

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worriedandworries · 09/08/2023 14:33

Ohthatsabitshit · 09/08/2023 14:23

Maybe he works from home but still receives UC and PIP, as so many disabled people do. I should think someone typed it in wrong.

I'm very aware of the company, its a manual company so wouldn't be suitable for WFH. However in all honestly its irrelevant and I have no interested in getting caught up in whether they're working is legal or not, it doesn't impact me in the slightest now I understand its linked to persons, not household addresses.

So long as any (if there is) debt isn't linked to my address I have no skin in the game, and will leave it at that.

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