How many syllables in the word "world"?

[LaPerduta]

Inspired by another thread, I'm interested in words which are pronounced differently in different accents by native English speakers in the UK and Ireland.

I only realised recently that some people pronounce "none" the same as "non", rather than "nun".

In Scotland some people pronounce "pattern" as "pattron". Iron is "eye-ron" rather than "eye-un".

There must be many more...

Did you sing that Christmas carol "It was on a starry night"?

In Scotland it finishes "King of all the woruld". Love it!

Yeah it is the same as ‘on’. N-on.

Don't know that hymn.

I love how the Scottish say murder amongst others things.

1. 2 different tones. 2 different oral movements.

It's all just regional variations/rhotic v non-rhotic accents, etc. I am Scottish and I say one like 'wun' and none like 'nun'. I can make myself say it how an English person with a certain accent would say it, but obviously it doesn't sound authentic to the way I speak., it's like I am putting on an accent.

There's almost always no 'correct' way, so no point in declaring 'It's pronounced like X.' No, you pronounce it like that.

I think it was on something like Bargain Hunt with a Scottish presenter that I realised not everyone says "oven" as "uvvun"

I would say it is one syllable, but kind of drawn out!

I remember being very patronisingly asked to pronounce 'film' and, after I said it as 'film' with one syllable, the person was most disappointed and said he HATED it when people said 'fill-um'. I think he was hoping I would say 'fill-um' so he could point out how crap he thought it was. I'm in NI and loads of people say 'fill-um'. I just happen not to and don't care who does.

I went to college with a guy called Carl. He was English, we were all Scottish. He ended up being called Cal!

Two in my accent! Same as poem, film and coin 😁

I am also very confused by the one/none/nun thing...

Me too.

None = rhymes with run/done/gun/one

To the poster who says it to rhyme with non, do non/none sound exactly the same to you?

Now the rest I can get two syllables but "coin"?

@SoupDragon it's sort of like coy-yin 😁

I have a Scottish accent that would just make it one syllable.

How do you manage to pronounce the r without effectively making 2 syllables? I say "wurruld", the only way I could make it one syllable would be to roll the r rediculously long, as in "wurrrrrrrrlllld".

Hmmm... and what accent would that be in , just so I can sit here and try to say it to myself 😂 I'm kind of coming out Brummie but it's still only one syllable!

@SoupDragon West of Scotland. Try it in a sort of song-song voice with the emphasis on the first syllable: COY-n

I should add in my actual life I can say it with one syllable to make myself understood as I live down South, but that's how it sounds in my heads

(Don't even get me started on tortoises - might start another thread on that!)

Light bulb moment for me. I couldn’t understand why some people were writing none when they meant non and vice versa. As in none stop instead of nonstop as they’re pronounced differently to me. None same as nun.

Strangely, I do pronounce one the same as won though, not rhyming with nun. 🤷🏼‍♀️

Tortoises and scones... 😂

Oh god I had to turn Mr Tumble off when he was doing the Makaton sign for library.

You sign: lie-breeeee

No it's not a liebree!

Funnily enough, I've just written a professional development workshop for tomorrow afternoon on this very topic.

"world" has one syllable whether you have a rhotic accent or not. Adding /r/ doesn't change that. Syllables have a vowel sound. "world" has one vowel sound = world has one syllable. "poem" has 2 vowel sounds = "poem" has two syllables. "coin" has two vowel letters but only one sound- a diphthong= "coin" has one syllable.

Surely ‘none’ pronounced as ‘non’ is just a mistake though, not an accent thing?

Syllable elision.
See also: vegetable, chocolate etc.

Both are correct and reflected as such in phonetic dictionaries. (library with 3 syllables or with 2)

Try it in a sort of song-song voice with the emphasis on the first syllable: COY-n
I tried this and I sounded Welsh

@JaneJeffer I sound exactly like Lorraine Kelly when I try.

Wur-rum and carol made my southern English accent sound wonderfully Northern Irish!