Help, kids ill on holiday, can't work out what to do

[Poolbugs]

DCs aged 14 and 16 spent the night being violently ill. The 14yo was sharing with 18yo who had to go to reception to get new bedding (we were busy with the 16yo).

The rest off us are fine, the only thing we can think it could be is the hotel pool as only these two used it (and last time they were both parallel ill like this was when they caught a stomach bug from a river).

We're due to leave here tomorrow to drive to another European country to meet friends and share a house for a week, obv we can't move until Saturday. So my plan was to speak to the hotel manager today and say they have to house us for an extra night until they're safe to go out and about. And need to speak to the holiday rental and say that my friend will pick up the keys and we'll follow a day later.

Am I missing anything and does anyone know what the French rules are re staying home after a stomach bug and can point me to them? Or should we do something else? I've had one hour max sleep and ama bit broken

You don’t have to do anything and the hotel certainly doesn’t. It’s kind to wait a bit before going to your friends and the Dc may appreciate not sitting in a car but it really depends whether you’re willing to pay another night and there’s space

If you can’t stay at the hotel then probably best to warn your friends as they could delay goon for a night or two if they want to.

If caught from the pool, it would not be a virus but a bacteria (I think?) so they won't be shedding virus.
However, I think more likely stomach bug virus, the rest of you could start with it soon.
They don't have to let you stay, we're not in Covid times anymore but they probably will if they are not fully booked.

God, you're full of sympathy . Ignore this post, Op How awful. Tough on you, and them. I hope they feel better soon.

Also could be sun/heat stroke. Were they out in it for a long time ?

I think you’d be a much better friend if you do as you suggest and stay put rather than arrive in a shared rental with violent stomach bugs! How are the kids going to travel if they’re that violently ill?

I would just go anyway! Assume you may need to stop a little more often and take supplies in the car. Surely once you get to the accommodation it doesn't matter if it's shared they can just stay in their room until they feel better?

Ask the hotel if you can pay to stay another night.

Otherwise buy some cheap towels, plastic bags, Imodium and travel sickness tablets and hope for the best in your journey.

You sound like you've been up with babies!

They are not babies.
Give them a bag and get in the car.

Btw if you do suspect a bug especially one picked up
in the pool or food poisoning absolutely do not give them Imodium!

Oh no what bad timing 😞
I agree that if you’re worried about DH getting it and he’s the only driver it might be best to move on as planned and keep the ill kids to a separate bedroom/bathroom in the holiday house? Fingers crossed it’s not contagious

I think you need to prioritize driving issue. We were in a similar situation once and we actually left our hotel straight away while DH was able to drive. We were driving home so a bit different but I was glad we did it as he became very unwell next day and was unwell for the whole week.

Hope your kids recover soon and no one else will get it.
I was very sick on our holiday last year on the second day, was down for more then 24 hours then was absolutely fine for the rest of the week. DD and DH were fine.

Agree that a contingency plan for driving would be good. My DH once got really sick about 1/4 of the way though a big journey on holiday. But we were using his friend’s car. His friend was amazingly kind to take time out his day to go through the palaver of ringing up his insurers, adding me, paying the extra etc. I wish we’d done it before we left.

You'll have to leave the hotel unless they have any availability for you to pay for extra nights.

I would explain to the friends sharing the house what the situation is and just all keep separate. It's not a given that you will pass it on to them if you all are vigilant about hygiene and keep the kids to their rooms as much as possible. Assuming there is more than one bathroom with this amount of people, allocate one to the ill people.

Hope everyone's better soon.

IMPORTANT INFORMATION:
Hand sanitiser doesn’t kill norovirus, so if it might be noro make sure you wash you use soap and hot water to wash hands (and a solution of bleach on everything else) every time you need to. Unfortunately I didn’t know this and used it to clean door handles taps etc when on kid started violently vomiting at 3am we went on our first mid Covid holiday so the other kid caught it.

You need to speak to the hotel. Its more likely to be a viral gastroenteritis like norovirus picked up from a hard surface or from food preparation. The hotel will have a process in place as it would be very common where they will increase cleaning of communal areas and your room will need a deep scrub when you leave. You can't really make a plan until you speak to the hotel because they may have a procedure to follow to minimise spread or they may be completely fully booked so can't keep you an wextra day.

Everyone has a different attitude to infection control and I understand this is a particularly inconvenient bug because you are away but the 48 post vomit advice is there for a reason. If I was your friend I would be really p'd off with you if you showed up with half the family with a sickness bug. Last month a someone I know took her kid to church because he hadn't puked in 12 hours. Obviously a child wasn't aware of strict hand hygiene and within that week 8 families got norovirus. One wasn't able to go to Disneyland that they had been saving for 2 years to go to and my Gran was hospitalised with it.

And poor them, and you. I do hope they recover quickly and can enjoy some of the end of your holiday x

If I was your friends, I wouldn't be at all keen to stay in the same holiday house as your vomiting kids. Last time we had the vomits, we all got it and it lasted a week for each of us. Horrendous. I'd try to stay at least another night at the hotel, and see if I could stock up on vomit bags, disposable gloves and bleach wipes. Good luck op.

They are 14 and 16. Are you quite sure this isn't a hangover?

Oh my sympathies, we have had this twice and of course always happens when going on holiday. First time, we were flying back to my home country (2hr flight) and I got sick in the Airport and threw up on the flight, not nice. Then of course giving it to my brother and his family!!

Next time, we were driving to France and my oldest son got it first in the night before going, then I got it, then youngest son and in France my husband. But luckily it was a quick one so like one night of horrible sickness and then loss of apetite for a couple of days.

I would also just go and hope for the best. Good luck

I think you need to ask the hotel if they have any rooms for tonight (you can’t prove it was the pool so they are under no obligation). If not I’d book a hotel in the direction of the new place and take some sick bags.

Kids do tend to get over sick bugs quickly but I wouldn’t be happy if I was the other family and they were still infectious so give it at least one more night and see how they are.

How are they this morning?

Hi , can you explain this please so I know for future reference? Does it keep the bug in the body for longer ?

This is what I came to say. I’d bet money on their having got hold of some alcohol, and overdone it. In which case they will be fine, if very grumpy, today.

Yes, exactly this.