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Would this be frowned upon regarding a job application?

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rosewasthevillain · 23/07/2023 11:38

So I’m trying to get a new in a well known company and whilst I work in the role they are advertising I work in a different sector. I’m more corporate and that’s retail so it’s working against me.

I’ve found one of their recruiters on LinkedIn and I feel like messaging her my cv and just saying is it worth me applying for jobs at X? Worded better obviously.

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MNetcurtains · 23/07/2023 11:49

I wouldn't, personally. Might come across as a bit stalker-ish. Just submit your application. What's the worst that could happen?

rosewasthevillain · 23/07/2023 12:08

MNetcurtains · 23/07/2023 11:49

I wouldn't, personally. Might come across as a bit stalker-ish. Just submit your application. What's the worst that could happen?

So it’s a criminal offence to use LinkedIn and search for recruiters in that firm? Ok.

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sandybeaches74 · 23/07/2023 12:10

I would send her message. Explain that you very motivated to move into that sector and that you have relevant experience, ask for a conversation rather than send your CV at first. If you can get her to like you then that is half the battle... good luck!

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Hannahsbananas · 23/07/2023 12:11

rosewasthevillain · 23/07/2023 12:08

So it’s a criminal offence to use LinkedIn and search for recruiters in that firm? Ok.

What a ridiculous response 😂
Why not just submit your CV like everyone else and see what happens?
Why do you have to have it’s “worth” rubber stamped in advance?

mynameiscalypso · 23/07/2023 12:13

I don't know it's that big a deal especially if you're not sure whether you fit the brief. One of my team did exactly that - reached out to the hiring manager to discuss the role and her experience. She got the job.

3BSHKATS · 23/07/2023 12:15

I would always reach out to the Recruiter, advertising the role for any snippets of information that they might be able to win part as to whether or not, your CV might be suitable. If they don’t reply, you’ve lost nothing. It’s not like they’ve got the memory capacity to make a note. And if you come across really friendly, and you click with the Recruiter, then you might be head and shoulders above the other applicants.

Gazelda · 23/07/2023 12:18

Your response to @MNetcurtains was a bit snappy and unnecessary.

But back to your question, personally I'd approach it from the opposite way, rather than highlighting your lack of experience in that sector, I'd emphasise your relevant skills and your eagerness to move sectors because you find it more interesting/see it as more dynamic/have been following the company for a while and like their ethos etc.

Beignet · 23/07/2023 12:19

Definitely not. Contact the recruiter via their professional contact email (on the job advert) and ask for an informal discussion regarding the role.

rosewasthevillain · 23/07/2023 13:01

Hannahsbananas · 23/07/2023 12:11

What a ridiculous response 😂
Why not just submit your CV like everyone else and see what happens?
Why do you have to have it’s “worth” rubber stamped in advance?

It isn’t at all. But I spoke with a recruitment agency who recruits for their higher roles and he said without the exact experience it’s hard for me to move over so he suggested it’s best if I reach out to the companies directly. It therefore seemed more logical to say - this is me and what I do so is it worth me applying or would lack of experience count me out completely.

Seeing as I’ve had four rejections this week and I’m in a job where my mental health is so bad because of it I was suicidal during December and could barely even get out of bed.

I’m trying to be productive and make my life better rather than get a stamped approval it’s to find out where I’m going wrong by talking to a human rather than an automation online. I’m single and have no one else to support me with paying bills so it’s not like I can just quit my job and be free.

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upsidedownandturnaround · 23/07/2023 13:03

MNetcurtains · 23/07/2023 11:49

I wouldn't, personally. Might come across as a bit stalker-ish. Just submit your application. What's the worst that could happen?

Good advice. I agree.

OP, you are completely ridiculous!

AcesBaseballbat · 23/07/2023 13:03

It's fine because it's a recruiter, that's the whole reason recruiters are on LinkedIn.

If you'd tracked her down on Facebook or something it would be different. But it's LinkedIn. That's literally the entire point of LinkedIn. She'll most likely get tons of messages every day though, so she might not see or respond to it.

Thistooshallpsss · 23/07/2023 13:10

I’m sorry your job is making you feel so bad op and I wish you every good luck in moving sectors. No advice as I am retired now but I bet you will smash any new job good luck!

Crinkle77 · 23/07/2023 13:12

I wouldn't to be honest. On the job ad is there a contact email address if you want to discuss the role? If so I would contact them that way. I have had responsibility for recruitment and if someone contacted me to ask if it was worth applying I wouldn't say no. Its not up to me to decide that. The applicant has to look at the job description and decide they can meet the criteria. That contact would have no bearing on whether we recruited them or not as applications and interviews are scored.

custardlover · 23/07/2023 13:12

I hate it when people contact me about roles I am recruiting for and ask for a chat / review if their skill set in advance - makes me think they are looking for an easy path or that they're too good to go through the process like everyone else. It really puts me off them.

3BSHKATS · 23/07/2023 13:25

custardlover · 23/07/2023 13:12

I hate it when people contact me about roles I am recruiting for and ask for a chat / review if their skill set in advance - makes me think they are looking for an easy path or that they're too good to go through the process like everyone else. It really puts me off them.

Are you actually serious? What’s your fill rate currently?

DontEatCrisps · 23/07/2023 13:31

When you say recruiter do you mean a recruitment agent or someone in HR at the employer?

If the former, I'd feel relaxed about contacting them either via Linked In or email. If the latter, I'd only use the email address given in the job ad (which may well be a general one) - I wouldn't go via Linked In or use an email address I'd found elsewhere.

custardlover · 23/07/2023 13:40

I'm dead serious! I work for a popular company and get at least 100 applicants for every role - the whole unsolicited 'can I have a chat?' really gets on my nerves. If I did that for everyone I would literally spend every minute doing it.

3BSHKATS · 23/07/2023 13:40

custardlover · 23/07/2023 13:40

I'm dead serious! I work for a popular company and get at least 100 applicants for every role - the whole unsolicited 'can I have a chat?' really gets on my nerves. If I did that for everyone I would literally spend every minute doing it.

Gosh lucky you.

OnTheRunWithMannyMontana · 23/07/2023 13:45

I'm not sure why you are asking this question because it's obvious from your responses to people so far that you have decided this is the best course of action.

FWIW (not that you will listen) the last time I recruited I had a direct email from someone saying they didn't think it was worth filling in the proper application process and could I just look at their C.V. Put me off straight away.

Doggymummar · 23/07/2023 13:52

Some miserable recruiters on her OP. When I was in internal recruitment someone messaging me directly would make them stand out head and shoulders above other people who just send their CV. I have got all my jobs for the past DECADE from reaching out on LinkedIn. I wouldn't contact someone I'm not connected with, but if you are connected with someone in the company I would definitely use that connection. Most jobs these days go to people in our networks and never get advertised. Good luck

Bearpawk · 23/07/2023 13:57

That's what LinkedIn is for. Go for it.

LlynTegid · 23/07/2023 13:59

Conversation request perhaps, not CV.

3BSHKATS · 23/07/2023 14:05

Doggymummar · 23/07/2023 13:52

Some miserable recruiters on her OP. When I was in internal recruitment someone messaging me directly would make them stand out head and shoulders above other people who just send their CV. I have got all my jobs for the past DECADE from reaching out on LinkedIn. I wouldn't contact someone I'm not connected with, but if you are connected with someone in the company I would definitely use that connection. Most jobs these days go to people in our networks and never get advertised. Good luck

100% this, I’ve even connected with people and left it a week before messaging them, so they don’t feel pounced upon, but you are in the network. I find it quite risky to Recruiter outside of the network. I much prefer it if it’s a connection of a connection.

Elphame · 23/07/2023 14:09

I'd have had no problem having "a chat" from someone who contacted me via my linked-in profile. It's a professional networking site. They would still have to go through the formal process and I wouldn't want a CV sent to me on spec.

At least someone doing that is going to stand out from the dozens who have only applied because the Job Centre requires them to apply for x jobs a week, even if totally inappropriate. They were the real timewasters although I appreciate that is the fault of the system not the applicant.

drpet49 · 23/07/2023 14:14

rosewasthevillain · 23/07/2023 12:08

So it’s a criminal offence to use LinkedIn and search for recruiters in that firm? Ok.

What a shitty response. Good luck getting a job OP, looks like you need it.

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