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How many people actually 'hate' you?

66 replies

Quibble123 · 09/07/2023 14:48

I feel I have a disproportionate number of people who have cut me out of their lives, compared to most folk and I am trying to work out if I am the problem... I'm 41, have a very happy marriage, two kids, and good career. I've a small group of very good long-standing friendships. BUT I have several relationships in my life which have gone sour, including family such as my sil, where we are no longer on speaking terms. I spend a lot of time analysing and thinking about these relationships and have sought to repair them but often at a miss of what really went wrong. I was recently diagnosed with ASD and ADHD which I wonder if is part of it - may be I am just good at this stuff. I've never been good at small talk or people pleasing. I am fiercely loyal but also very honest - if someone asks me my opinion, I give it honestly, only realising after that most of the time people don't want your actual opinion. I know people find me hard work at parties etc as I am not good a frivolity and struggle with really busy places, but I love spending time with friends one to one or in a really small group on walks etc. I also know I can be intense and then quiet for months and really trying to address this. Two good friends in past 10 years have ghosted me - there was no real fight or disagreement, just suddenly they stopped contacting or replying. These two didn't know each other and the ghosting was completely separate, and it has really hurt me over the years, especially one of them who was bridesmaid at my wedding and I at hers. With her our lives drifted apart when we had children and her and her husband didn't want children - not a problem just life priorities and what we did changed so we saw each other less - then it just stopped in covid. I've tried following up after but always very short or cool replies, so ended up just leaving it. I have a troubled relationship with my sister - from my perspective because I think she is very manipulative of my parents, and a non-existence relationship with sil. Sil has a history of ghosting people and her and I had a falling out over an issue which I still stand by so I am not so sad about that relationship... but in short I suppose I am asking do others muddle through life always getting on with everyone or is it common to have these complex or ended/dead relationships. I wish friendships were like partner relationships, when they ended, you both agreed and it was final... the rest just complicates it all!

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UsingChangeofName · 09/07/2023 19:27

Agree @ShinyAppleDreamingOfTheSea .

What a strange outlook @PretendUsername

Soopermum1 · 09/07/2023 19:48

Only exH. Of that I'm sure

dottieautie · 09/07/2023 19:56

Fellow autistic here and I didn’t realise being “hated” or seriously disliked by ex-friends wasn’t common. Conversely I know far more people who really do like me and check in with me or send me lovely cards and letters and flowers etc.

It’s only recently I’ve started at looking at why I’d have so many friends turn on me so dramatically while others love me and I realised (I’m marmite) the one who dislike me are generally all quite troubled people themselves who use people for ego boosts and validation or as free therapy. There is not a lot I could have done to stop them flouncing off once I displeased them by not bending over backwards to be their friend. The lovely people don’t have these expectations of me.

I’ll never be BFFs with anyone (my partner is enough for me) but I like having a verity of people to communicate with who aren’t attention seekers or seriously fucked up. I take partial responsibility for not recognising the red flags from the beginning but I’m getting better at its

i think NT recognise the flags much earlier in life and relationships

BabyStopCryin · 09/07/2023 19:59

Very few I’d say but I let only very few people into my life (introvert and very shy). However my ‘revenge’ list is rather long (mostly people who have gone out of their way to wrong a loved one)

pompomdaisy · 09/07/2023 20:01

I'm thinking of ending my relationship with you too op.

Can you please write in paragraphs!

Quibble123 · 09/07/2023 20:05

dottieautie · 09/07/2023 19:56

Fellow autistic here and I didn’t realise being “hated” or seriously disliked by ex-friends wasn’t common. Conversely I know far more people who really do like me and check in with me or send me lovely cards and letters and flowers etc.

It’s only recently I’ve started at looking at why I’d have so many friends turn on me so dramatically while others love me and I realised (I’m marmite) the one who dislike me are generally all quite troubled people themselves who use people for ego boosts and validation or as free therapy. There is not a lot I could have done to stop them flouncing off once I displeased them by not bending over backwards to be their friend. The lovely people don’t have these expectations of me.

I’ll never be BFFs with anyone (my partner is enough for me) but I like having a verity of people to communicate with who aren’t attention seekers or seriously fucked up. I take partial responsibility for not recognising the red flags from the beginning but I’m getting better at its

i think NT recognise the flags much earlier in life and relationships

Thanks for this, really resonates. I'm a marmite person I think and the relationships I have are strong and very long lasting. Need to focus on these.

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AuntieJune · 09/07/2023 20:05

I don't think you can say that ghosting always means you've done something wrong or even that the person dislikes you. They are choosing to stop investing time and effort in the relationship. Could be down to something you've done, could be because they have something going on in their own life.

Maybe you could make sure the people who matter to you now understand that you feel sometimes you've done something wrong in a relationship and been ghosted, so you can ask them to tell you if you ever offend or upset them.

But really I wouldn't assume that it's all about you and what you've done. Friendships just come and go through life. Modern communication tech makes it possible to stay in touch even when people move house etc, but it still takes a lot of effort to maintain lots of relationships. Once upon a time friends would have moved, you'd lose their address and that was it. Now social media, mobiles etc keeps us in touch forever.

kraftyKitten · 10/07/2023 17:58

I'm sure there are people who don't like me but hey ! Can't be liked by everyone. I'm independent so I don't really care as long as they leave me alone .

Gruffling · 10/07/2023 18:04

PrinceHaz · 09/07/2023 15:32

It’s the autism. They will have assumed bad intentions when there were none.

This.

You'll have missed out an expected social convention or offended them with an overly direct message or taken too long to respond to their text message...NTs really, really care about how fast you respond to their text messages!

lemmein · 10/07/2023 18:27

My DHs family hate me.

The feelings mutual though and I'm glad we've all finally got to a point where we don't even pretend anymore. I stay out of their way and them mine.

Besides them, I don't know, nor care - nobody has ever 'cut me off' that I give a shit about 🤷🏻‍♀️

Tadashi · 10/07/2023 18:33

None...that I know of.

I've had friendships drift though and don't really speak to one side of my family as we just aren't close and I don't see the point 😬. But I certainly don't hate any of them.

Like someone already said though, I work in a secondary school and teenagers claim to hate at least one of their teachers ime. I'm not a teacher but even still, I'm sure some of them might decide they hate me! Goes with the territory

Yoyooo · 10/07/2023 18:34

My mum

Quibble123 · 10/07/2023 19:39

Gruffling · 10/07/2023 18:04

This.

You'll have missed out an expected social convention or offended them with an overly direct message or taken too long to respond to their text message...NTs really, really care about how fast you respond to their text messages!

I suspect you're right here. I work in a sector in which being direct and focusing on detail actually works in my favour, but find this rarely carries through to real life scenarios! And I am terrible at remembering to respond to texts!! 😆

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liondreams · 10/07/2023 19:42

i've had a few friendships break up over the years, due to difficult circumstances on both sides... at the time I would have had stronger feelings against them but I wouldn't say I ever "hated" them as such. And now despite feeling like I wouldn't want to hang out with them again, I don't hold any hate for anyone. I would hope they are grown up enough not to hate me either!

Vitriolinsanity · 10/07/2023 20:56

At least one. He works for me and hasn't spoken to me for 6 weeks since I politely asked him not to do something. What's really pissing him off is that I genuinely don't care, he has form for this sort of nonsense and I'm done pandering.

The energy it's causing him though is extraordinary to watch. Can a person die of sulking?

BabyStopCryin · 12/07/2023 10:37

6 weeks has to be some sort of world record. How embarrassing for him.

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