Medical things you didn’t know?

[Emptychairdoasolo]

Just watching a medical drama and wondered what happens if you die on the operating table? Do they just sew you back up without repairing anything inside?

but also had me thinking what other medical things didn’t you know until you maybe experienced them or learned?

All this opening window stuff ..and people arguing it’s not scientific

imho, nursing is about care. And I assume for a lot of nurses that doesn’t stop when one of their patients dies - most of us will never have the uncomfortable “privilege” of laying out a body. The NHS put a stop to that by and large over last 75 years too.

I think most of us would find it hard to think of our loved ones as “just a body” in the moments and hours after death, it takes time to superstate in our minds that the human part of us has left the body , the “quick” , “the soul“ or just the pulse and brain activivty depending g on your beliefs. It is not an instant thing- nor, for a lot of nurses, or other emergency works or doctors is it if they’ve just spent time with that patient

Rituals are part of our way to come to terms with letting go of the living breathing person and separating that from the corpse in front of us. It doesn’t really matter what the ritual is, mostly, it is the ritual, the set of standard actions done with respect, that makes you feel like you’ve done the best you can and done the “right” thing by that person before they are let go.

so, please stop with the why are we paying nurses to do this, it’s not scientific, it belongs in Victorian age …we need rituals psychologically to help US come to terms and process a death.

Redheads do make their own vitamin D. Everyone does. But you need sunshine on bare skin for it to happen. Redheads are known as vitamin D super producers because we can produce a lot in a short space of time. It helps with bone development/density which is why red headed women were less likely to die in childbirth back when that was a common thing - they were more likely to have a properly formed pelvis that didn't break during delivery, and not have rickets.

@bonfirebash I should have added - there are also studies that seem to suggest that redheads react differently to pain relief and tend to need more, and I was also told by a gynaecologist that in his experience red headed women tended to bleed/haemorrhage more. He said no proper data to back it up but he'd heard the same from other docs.

@HaveYouHeardOfARoadAtlas Thank you for this. We were offered to walk our babies down ourselves but I didn't feel capable of doing it so we let the porters take them.
A few years ago in the Trust I worked for a staff member complained on the intranet that she was upset by seeing a couple walking their baby down the corridor to mortuary. Thankfully people were pretty quick to defend the couple's choice to do this and recognised their distress would be far greater than hers.

I once went to a talk by our medical implants development team
as one guy put it “ it’s amazing how much space there is in there (abdomen) to shove all sorts of stuff in”
😳🤷🏼‍♀️🤣🤣

@MadamPickle I must be shite at it
Even with being outside all summer with horses I was massively deficient

This is like Charles Bonnet syndrome.
people who’ve lost their site quite often get visual hallucinations for some months or years after- they see people, often little people but can be very disturbing and distressing
my dad got it- saw insect on floor, people coming and sitting in his hous3 and refusing to go away (the people don’t talk - only visual hallucination) .
trouble was he kept calling 999 to get the police out, or banging on neighbours doors to ask them for help
not great 😳😭

I know someone who worked with patients after brain surgery as a student. Several of them complained of abdominal pain and she couldn't work out the link until she found out they stored the loose part of skull they had removed in their abdomen to keep it in good enough condition to put back later.

Hmm, but ALL mental illness pets can be argued as physiological in origin
we know most mental illnesses like schizophrenia are caused by chemical imbalances and that impact on the transmission of information through the neurons . So what causes the chemical imbalances ? That’ll be some sort physiological issue- we know genes are sometimes involved, but not everyone with genetic predisposition to psychotic illness, or many other illness is preordained to get it- there are other “environmental “ factors (lifestyle, trauma etc) that turn on the genes.
most researchers think all illness , apart from hypochondria, are physiological. We just don’t know enough about what goes on in the black box of the brain to pin down the physiological pathway, so treat them as psychiatric disorders - basically treating the symptoms we see in those chemical imbalances with drugs, or helping people manage the symptoms with therapies.

I hope, in 50 and 100 years, people will go 🤦‍♀️about our lack of knowledge an£ understanding in the physiological pathways of mental illnesses

Cool 🤯
not for patient with the tummy issue though

Maybe us redheads need so.much sunscreen not to burn we block out the vitamin D.

A lot of me jiggles - I thought thst ps he use I could do with loosing a few pounds 😳

@Emptychairdoasolo yep. My mum just had heart valve surgery and was given the option for mechanical valves or pig heart valves. My cousin had similar surgery and now has the pig heart valves.

Sorry, I wasn’t very clear. In a fully
medical setting I think it’s an amazing adaptation of something of natural
origin that has so many different uses. However I personally think that cosmetic use of it is just strange. If someone had said we had to have covid vaccines in our face then there would have been uproar (including from me probably), but people are happy to have multiple injections of this toxin into their faces for purely cosmetic reasons, under sometimes less than stringent supervision.

I’m glad it works for you and your bladder issue - like o said I think it’s an amazing development, for the right reasons.

When my dear old Dad died and we went in to see the body, the window was closed so I opened it to 'let the soul out' knowing full well it had no scientific grounding. It still made us feel better though.

@titchy

Unfortunately I know someone who did.

https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/16840

@Appleofmyeye2023 I doubt they do. It's stored in a bowl. There is no room in the abdomen. And the patient would have a wound to show for it if they did.

Yes, I agree that a lot of illnesses are physiological. I had dreadful anxiety and insomnia after my head injury, and of course all my GP wanted to do was prescribe psychotropic meds.

She was thinking in terms of the psychological aspect of the illnesses, as opposed to thinking about the root causes of it i.e. it was pretty much caused by inflammation in my brain from the concussion, which of course in turn affected my brain chemistry etc. I read something about how depression is also potentially caused by inflammation at the root of it all, so it doesn't surprise me that my post concussion syndrome symptoms were similar.

We have a lot to learn about how "the body keeps score".

I am amazed at all these nurses opening the windows to let souls out. It sounds distinctly...unmedical and a bit woo. I mean, it's nice to show respect and everything but it does seem quite odd in this day and age.

@agent765 or piss themselves...... just saying always helps to be ready for every eventuality.
Mine is that chronic jaw clenching can and does
Change the shape of your jaw
Cause migraine
Cause neck and shoulder pain
Cause tinnitus.

Also, an epilepsy drug is used to treat migraine. I have no idea how or why but very glad of it. It took several weeks to get used to, I couldn't hold a thought in my head.

Same - all 4 where impacted - he removed 1 as I had an abscess beneath it - felt like he'd kneed my chest - he tried to remove it whole, this involved him leaning one arm heavily on my mid chest - then he actually sawed it in two - still struggled - I was so sore afterwards (and got dry socket!)

had the other 3 removed in hospital!

When you have an ovary removed, you still have a regular period cycle.
The other ovary makes up for it.
Gutted.

When they do a post mortem, they peel your face off your skull, really.

I you think the "chemical imbalance" theory has rigorous scientific evidence to support its application in depression, I think you need to watch:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001n39z

The Antidepressant StoryPanorama
Panorama examines whether the current generation of antidepressant drugs have lived up to their promises, following patients who have suffered serious side effects.

My Sister was a redhead and when she had an op they struggled to put her under. When she had cancer, pain relief just did not work unless they doubled the dose, same with sleeping tablets.