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It’s an A&E one…

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LawyeredUp · 29/06/2023 23:10

I genuinely never thought I’d start one of these threads, but here I am!

I don’t think it needs a trip to A&E, but could do with the reassurance.

DS is 2 (27 months). He was picked up from nursery by his nanny and got the bus home. Unfortunately the bus was packed so when getting off, she went forwards with the pushchair rather than backwards. And the pushchair fell off the bus with DS in it.

He cried for a couple of hours and couldn’t put any weight on his legs. Once I got home, he calmed down with me after around half an hour, but was still upset at times. He started to cheer up a bit, and I gave him some calpol, after which he was back to himself.

Except he can’t put weight on his legs. He can move them and as we were playing whilst he was lying down, he was happily and easily kicking them around (calpol would have kicked in). I’ve bent them both in different angles and there’s no issue, but he’s not standing. I think his legs are simply sore, as surely it would be obvious if it was a break right?

No obvious head injury (told there were no marks on him right after) and once he calmed down and the calpol kicked in, he had food. He’s still up now (I’ve wanted to keep an eye on him) and for all intents and purposes, he’s himself, apart from not being able to stand properly. It’s a big pushchair and he was buckled in, but I think the shock together with hurting his legs was hugely distressing for him and also he needed his mum, hence why he was upset for so long.

I don’t think it needs A&E, as I’m not too worried about his legs. Maybe see how he is in the morning?

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LemonPeonies · 30/06/2023 08:45

I would have taken him to A and E straight away, as a nurse I usually read these kind of threads and think nah that doesn't need A and E, waste of time. But in a child or adult crying in pain for that length of time and unable to weight bare would really concern me. I agree if you leave it too long and there's trauma they will be in their rights to raise safeguarding concerns.

radfordrunner · 30/06/2023 09:02

I'm afraid I side with @Caramellois and @Songbird74. You need to get him seen OP, to leave him in pain (when you have, presumably, zero medical knowledge) is shocking. I hope he's OK and makes a speedy recovery but please don't think that because you take him lots for his asthmatic wheeze, then he doesn't need to go for this. He has had, what I assume was, a fall from quite a height. Head injuries / broken bones, internal injuries may not be obvious to the untrained eye.

Kiwiandstrawberries · 30/06/2023 09:05

Are you atAE ? How is your little boy now?

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Iamgoingtohell · 30/06/2023 09:05

If you haven’t already, please go to A&E. My son fractured his leg dancing at a wedding. Fell funny. We didn’t take him til the morning because we thought he’d be okay.

Nanaof1 · 30/06/2023 09:11

Caramellois · 30/06/2023 07:33

Your child has had an accident and can't walk or weight bear but you don't think this is something requiring urgent medical attention? Without any medical training, you've been moving their legs about in some kind of primitive "broken bone tests". Does something strike you as very odd about this approach. If it doesn't, you must have a very low IQ, lawyer or not.

I agree. I wouldn't walk into a courtroom and assume I can defend someone from a murder charge, just because I know some words. So, a non-medically trained person, acting like they are a cross between an orthopedist and a neurologist is annoying. Medically trained people would know better than to be moving legs, pelvis and hips around and know to go to A&E when a baby cannot bear weight, cried for a long time and there was no "information on how it exactly happened and position of the baby etc."

MenoRageisReal · 30/06/2023 09:18

MotherofaToad · 30/06/2023 07:36

He needs to go to a&e. Your nanny also needs sacking for allowing a child to cry for a couple of hours after an accident and not seeking medical help. You might not know when to seek help, but this is what she is trained to know and what you are paying her for. Accidents happen but the way that she has handled this has been appalling.

I agree. Aren't professional nannies supposed to be first aid trained? Or at least have the gumption to get help, rather than leaving a child in obvious distress. I wonder if she was hoping he'd stop crying so she would not have to tell you what happened, that she dropped the pushchair.

Kingsparkle · 30/06/2023 09:20

MenoRageisReal · 30/06/2023 09:18

I agree. Aren't professional nannies supposed to be first aid trained? Or at least have the gumption to get help, rather than leaving a child in obvious distress. I wonder if she was hoping he'd stop crying so she would not have to tell you what happened, that she dropped the pushchair.

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I hadn’t thought about the nanny before because like another poster I read it as nanny (as in grandmother). I am starting to wonder if nanny = au pair…

elliejjtiny · 30/06/2023 09:21

It's a hard one. I find that if you go to a and e for something that turns out to be fine then you get made to feel like an idiot but if you leave it you get judged. Now it's office hours can you ring your HV and ask for advice?

Theonlyoneiknow · 30/06/2023 09:28

I also ready nanny like granny so could perhaps understand not being able to answer exactly what happened but if it's the other, then as others said it wasn't dealt with very well.

Hope all is okay OP>

Iloveburgerswaymorethanishould · 30/06/2023 09:35

Re-X-ray.
I had to take one of mine when I was pregnant once, they gave me this vest thing to put over my bump so I could go in with my daughter. As she was only about 2 at the time. Maybe they will do something similar. (It was about 22 years ago like, but just wanted to reassure you a little!)

Snowpatrolling · 30/06/2023 09:52

A break is not obvious no, my daughter was walking around on a broken leg for 2 days.
get him to a&e

truthhurts23 · 30/06/2023 10:04

The crying for hours is concerning to me, usually a child will cry for abit and then stop
you need to go to A&E to check him out , and fire that nanny because she sounds incompetent I’ve never heard of such a stupid accident before she wasn’t paying attention

MrsSkylerWhite · 30/06/2023 10:06

A and E, could be a spinal injury.

Definitelynotme2022 · 30/06/2023 10:21

How is ds today?

I do hope you've had him checked out at A&E.

My ds fell over, got up and rode off on his bike but was uncomfortable later in the evening. I only went to A&E as it was my Grandad's funeral the next day but he had a greenstick fracture. This where their bones aren't as hard as ours, so they can cope with movement etc. It wasn't obviously broken at all, he could still move it about but it just ached.

HateMyselfToo · 30/06/2023 10:23

Guessing you're at A&E now. Hope all is going well.

stayflufft · 30/06/2023 10:28

A&E now. My daughter couldn’t weight bear on one leg one morning and I booked an emergency GP appointment. I changed my mind and took her to A&E and on the way there the GP surgery rang and said take her to A&E. Weight bearing is an emergency issue.

blor · 30/06/2023 10:31

Agree with the above posters saying it's probably a toddlers fracture, they are very common. If so it's fine that you waited until the morning. Also would have thought they could give you a lead gown so you can go in for the X-ray

P0mbears · 30/06/2023 10:36

Hope all is ok OP

ConfessionsOfAMumDramaQueen · 30/06/2023 10:43

I imagine you've decided by now OP. However, one of mine fell and hurt her arm. Wouldn't move it. Took her to A&E, doctor offered her a sweet - reached out with the 'bad arm' and took it straight away! I'd try putting his favourite thing out of reach and see if he walks to it, if not A&E.

Mumofnarnia · 30/06/2023 10:44

LawyeredUp · 29/06/2023 23:38

It’s not reluctance, more that my gut has been telling me no need. We go to A&E a lot as DS suffers from a viral wheeze whenever he gets a cold, and my gut has always been right as to whether it’s an episode that needs the hospital or not, so I guess I’m used to listening to my gut about this stuff.

Re the accident, she said she didn’t have space to turn the pushchair around to get off backwards, so went forwards instead. Turned out the bus was actually quite far from the pavement, but don’t know how she lost hold of the pushchair.

Pregnancy was relevant because if he needs an X-ray, he will be absolutely distressed and traumatised to go into a room with strangers who will need to hold him down to get an X-ray.

I needed a wobble about what to do, which is what this thread has given me. He’s fallen asleep now, but will wake him up early to take him. I really appreciate the responses.

If he was crying for 2 hours and cannot put weight on his legs and calpol hasn’t eased off the pain enough to allow him to put weight on his legs then he NEEDS to go to A&E! You might think it could be nothing but you will never know unless you have him x-rayed! I work in a doctors surgery so this is what we would advise!

3luckystars · 30/06/2023 10:45

I would definitely go now, you must have been in shock and that’s why you didn’t last night. The nanny should have brought him really, especially with the X-ray situation but maybe she is fired by now?
The bus driver would maybe have filed a report about the incident too.

Tinysoxx · 30/06/2023 11:21

Hope little one is ok.

CCTV from the bus maybe useful to assess what happened if your nanny is unsure.

CC4712 · 30/06/2023 12:00

Any update OP?

Peach0123 · 30/06/2023 12:15

Poor baby, really hope he is okay and is at A&E now.
Once your back I would be contacting the bus company to ask for video/ if they can give you feedback from the driver on what happened (driver would most certainly remember an incident like this). The nanny would also be saked immediately for not taking him to hospital while crying for hours after an accident. Take care of yourself too OP.

uncomfortablydumb53 · 30/06/2023 12:20

I don't want to add to the pile on but as you have delayed seeking treatment this will be noted as a safeguarding concern
Obviously I hope DS is ok, but your Nanny needs sacking for neglecting your child's welfare and you need to realise how serious this may be for your DS