Can social services access a parents medical records ?

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Is this possible or do they just write and ask a gp specific questions ?

Im just wondering as I have inaccurate information on mine that could cause issues and I’m just hoping they can’t access my full medical records anyway as I haven’t been able to get the wrong info removed yet

With consent yes

In court proceedings if ordered by the court even if parents dont consent.

If you're currently working with social services you can just tell them what your health issues/medical needs/interventions etc are and if its relevant explain that you've had some difficulty with the GP not recording correct information about x,y,z,, whatever it is

Yes with consent; they send a letter asking about safeguarding and some GPs pretty much send all the medical information and some will review and just send what might be applicable based on someone having a DC

They won’t believe me (nobody does) and then it makes me look like a liar/in denial .

Years and years ago something happened that I only found out last year - my name and dob was given when attending a and e for a MH issue and it’s on my notes - I can’t resolve it - I’ve tried everything and I don’t want SS to think it’s an indication of my MH status as it didn’t happen to me

This is quite a serious issue. Why can it not be resolved?

I’ve had multiple meeting with the practice manager, put a complaint in and contacted the ICO

The bottom line is - someone presented at an and E a very long time ago - it’s been fed back to the previous gp and then added to MY notes. I’ve actually posted about it before on here a few months back under a different name. I just get told ‘it’s your details - it was you ‘ I don’t feel like there’s anything I can do I’ve even been told not to be so hard on myself that it’s nothing to be ashamed of but I didn’t do anything

I’m also astounded that it seems to be a one off - there appears to be no follow up as it would have alerted me ? But nothing so an an and E admission? Patched up? Recorded on my notes and then just left and I didn’t realise or know for 15 years ! It only came up as if applied for insurance and I was astounded

Who wont believe you?

What I meant was, if I go out and meet a family and start an assessment of needs, and I take your information about your needs as the parent, yoru circumstances and health, I would ask you about that, I wouldnt necessarily need/require/ask for your actual medical records

obviously if you are in care proceedings and its ordered that the medical disclosures are needed thats a different matter and you'd need to contact your practice manager to correct the information

If its many years ago, I assume you're talking about a suicide attempt or something like psychosis, even if someone thought it did happen its not likely to be significant now

How did it come about that someone gave your details when presenting at A+E?

And I would never have known about it but for the fact I applied for insurance . It’s just worrying me now as we have to have a SS assessment as part of the EHCP process for one of the dc and I wasn’t sure how much they look into things ?

It was my sister, with the help of DM. I think going by the last that she wanted dsis to not have it on her records ? For whatever reason they gave my details ? Dsis self harmed , I never have. I even asked the GP to give me an appt and they could inspect the areas as I haven’t even got a blemish there

No your records are not needed for that

And even if they were, and even if it were something as serious as a suicide attempt or MH breakdown its not relevant to your child's SEN needs

However now having read your updates, I can see this is something that still needs resolving, its dangerous to have something as 'your' medical history which actually isnt

Is there a way to make it public and make more of a fuss, might be counterproductive however...

The insurance thing is a worry because they could accuse you of not disclosing things in your records, which of course you wouldnt have because they're not your details

It was about 15 years ago so that’s another issue . It was only by chance I found out . I’d seen the form and it detailed things that shouldn’t be on my records but it was so detailed and obviously I knew the history with dsis.
Dsis and Dm will not talk to me about it - I wanted to get a recording or screenshot of messages admitting it but they have ignored all attempts

Why would your mum want your sister to not have it on her records but for you to have it on yours instead?
Why would you think the SS investigation for an EHCP would have anything to do with your medical records?
Nothing here makes sense.

I don’t know how to resolve it unless I have proof of an admission and they are not saying one word if I bring it up to try and get proof they won’t even speak

Are you able to get the practice manager to agree at least to put a note on the system to say you dispute this entry?

This is terrible. Its impersonation, not sure if that is a crime or not if its not to steal money. Probably isnt.

I don’t know the EHCP process ? I was told part of it is by social services ?

As for the reason DM would want that - dais was the ‘golden child’ and ‘perfect’ and there have been multiple attempts to sabotage my reputation this just seems like another

SS don't assess you rotinely for a EHCP they are just contacted to ask if they hold any information about your child/have family involvement. If not that section will just be blank.

I’ve had a letter added to my notes where I’ve stated this is not my medical history and what I think happened but in all honestly I want it properly removed and I’m going to try again with the ICO but I just keep being told my details were given. I’ve said to them it wasn’t me but I have zero proof and if I hadn’t applied for life insurance I’d never have known.

You obviously dont work with dysfunctional and toxic families!

We work with people who present to hospital and have given different details, not like this, or they take an unsafe adult with them and that person pretends to be a parent or uncle or aunt or whatever, giving all the wrong details

And people who dont understand what social services do wouldnt understand how assessments take place

By the way OP its not social services that open EHCP assessments, unless your children are open on CHIN plans or CP plans as well?

Ok well that’s good I just wasn’t sure I thought as I’d heard the ehcp process was long that it would involve more

No I put in a request for the ehcp but I was told social services do part of it ? I’m finding the whole process quite confusing

The length of time is mainly just waiting tbh.

It’s reassuring at least this won’t be an issue then I was getting really worried as it’s all at the top of my notes as i keep complaining and trying to get it resolved

Social care will be asked for details of interventions/support needed to fill out the social care part of it, but if the children are not open to social care that bit wont be contributed to in the same way as when children are already open for CHIN/CP/CIC

Thanks for your assumption, I'm actually FROM a dysfunctional and toxic family and work with them every day with 11 years of practice behind me.

What I see on a semi-regular basis is people claiming their brother or sister (often a non-existent twin) did something when really it was them that did it and they don't want to deal with the perceived judgement of having done the thing in question. People claiming everyone in their family is against them and has set them up when the opposite is true and everyone wants to support them but the person with the MH problems has built it up in their minds that they have no support when they just needed to reach out. I guess you've never come across anyone like that? Give it time unless they're pulling the wool over your eyes.

I was trying to establish which is the case because it's actually more likely in my line of work that they did the thing and don't want to admit it than that they were genuinely set up by everyone and anyone around them and it obviously affects what help is available and what is accepted, especially when paranoia is involved. I obviously don't know that's the case here hence asking pertinent questions to try and work out which way this was before offering any advice that could potentially point someone in the wrong direction.