Meet the Other Phone. Protection built in.

Meet the Other Phone.
Protection built in.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Chat

Join the discussion and chat with other Mumsnetters about everyday life, relationships and parenting.

Is there sympathy for consultants striking?

495 replies

LadyTemperance · 28/06/2023 10:08

Just as the thread title says, do you feel sympathy for the consultant doctors pay demands. I understand their pay has not gone up for many years meaning they have had a cut in real terms. That being said a quick google tells me they start on 88k and have regular pay rises not based on performance.
They are hardly on the bread line are they?

OP posts:
Thread gallery
15
MissyB1 · 28/06/2023 17:04

GCalltheway · 28/06/2023 16:58

Yes and younger doctors must be patient. You are earning a decent salary whilst you cut your teeth. Maybe you feel entitled to sports cars and second home’s immediately the day you graduate but it doesn’t work that way, sorry.

Or they can take their skills elsewhere where they will be more valued. I would!

Queenofthenight123 · 28/06/2023 17:05

HealthyBBQ · 28/06/2023 16:47

Yes.
Because people are more than happy that their solicitor charges £300 per hour, but not someone on call overnight to save their life.
Or £100 an hour for their plumber.

The government did a weird work over on the public thinking everyone in the NHS is a charity volunteer and should work overtime for free and be shafted constantly

That's not true though is it? Everyone I've ever met thinks legal fees are ridiculous and not in line with the actual work provided.

Same goes for price-gouging plumbers. No-one I've ever met complains about paying for work done but do get fucked off with what is charged in terms of labour, call out charges etc.

This is why these threads degenerate into ridiculousness because posters make nonsensical comparisons which aren't in any way comparable.

And completely ignore the number of posters who have intimate knowledge of consultants who are living very good lifestyles on their very good pay and really are not suffering under poor working conditions and stressed to the max but working under very good conditions.

The NHS is a diverse workforce.Some consultants may be having a shit time. Many are not and are not supporting strike action.

StormShadow · 28/06/2023 17:08

GCalltheway · 28/06/2023 16:58

Yes and younger doctors must be patient. You are earning a decent salary whilst you cut your teeth. Maybe you feel entitled to sports cars and second home’s immediately the day you graduate but it doesn’t work that way, sorry.

Well no, they mustn't be. Other options are available. That's rather the problem.

Interested in this thread?

Then you might like threads about this subject:

nameschangg · 28/06/2023 17:19

Because people are more than happy that their solicitor charges £300 per hour, but not someone on call overnight to save their life. Or £100 an hour for their plumber.

I've never met anyone who thought lawyers deserved their fees or plumbers! I can guarantee no one would have sympathy if they were striking!

GCalltheway · 28/06/2023 17:20

I think I mostly feel disappointed.

I know a lot of medics and friends, and spent a long time in hospital for different reasons as a young person. The one thing that always stood them apart was their principled stance, integrity and deep wisdom.

At no point would they muddy their hands in
this action; so it feels like the new crop are now no different to your average hedge fund manager. The grasping and greed is exactly the same. So I guess the one reason they are held in such high esteem is slowly being eroded away.

user746016 · 28/06/2023 17:21

Do people actually think solicitors keep that £300 an hour. They really don’t.

Notonthestairs · 28/06/2023 17:29

BMA balloted all Consultant members. Turn out was 71%.

Of those that responded 86% agreed with industrial action.
Quite persuasive numbers.

OnToTheNextOneOntoTheNextOne · 28/06/2023 17:32

Yes, I support them fully.

They could easily earn much more and have a better lifestyle emigrating to another country.

Lapland123 · 28/06/2023 17:32

GCalltheway · 28/06/2023 16:49

Anyway this is all a short term problem as AI will replace most jobs in medicine. It’s not so far away. My friend has been involved with AI surgery and 3d tech.

GCalltheway appears to be an ignorant troll. He/ she is also very healthy and will never need medical care.

otherwise he/ she wouldn’t say such extraordinarily stupid things.

GCalltheway · 28/06/2023 17:34

Lapland123 · 28/06/2023 17:32

GCalltheway appears to be an ignorant troll. He/ she is also very healthy and will never need medical care.

otherwise he/ she wouldn’t say such extraordinarily stupid things.

😂You are embarrassing yourself now

Lapland123 · 28/06/2023 17:34

Nope

GCalltheway · 28/06/2023 17:34

Notonthestairs · 28/06/2023 17:29

BMA balloted all Consultant members. Turn out was 71%.

Of those that responded 86% agreed with industrial action.
Quite persuasive numbers.

Really? I just see it as greed

Lapland123 · 28/06/2023 17:35

Yes consultants want their pay restored.
What is wrong with that?
Should never have been devalued as it has.

MyDecadent70sArmpits · 28/06/2023 17:37

Support my consultant colleagues 100%

GCalltheway · 28/06/2023 17:51

Lapland123 · 28/06/2023 17:35

Yes consultants want their pay restored.
What is wrong with that?
Should never have been devalued as it has.

With a starting salary of £88,000 and a range up to £120,000 I can not agree. We know that many work privately earning up to £180,000 or more.

In what world is this work in any way devalued?? Genuinely curious.

Queenofthenight123 · 28/06/2023 17:52

user746016 · 28/06/2023 17:21

Do people actually think solicitors keep that £300 an hour. They really don’t.

No. That's why these comparisons never work.

When I was managing the budget for my NHS team, the consultant cost £500 a day.

I know he wasn't taking that home. But he was clearly a high-earner.

GCalltheway · 28/06/2023 17:58

It’s grotesque to squeeze families already struggling with huge col bills, to refuse to treat the very people that pay you and then to blackmail them into agreeing a 35% rate increase when you are already wealthy and these poor people can’t afford to even feed their own children must less fund your second home/sports car, it just repulses me. At every level this is absolutely abhorrent.

Plunkplink · 28/06/2023 17:59

The difference between uk doctor pay and oversea pay. Adverts from Denmark and New Zealand for UK Doctors. Plus doctors are being poached by financial institutions as well.

Is there sympathy for consultants striking?
Is there sympathy for consultants striking?
Is there sympathy for consultants striking?
Is there sympathy for consultants striking?
Is there sympathy for consultants striking?
jamsandwich1 · 28/06/2023 18:41

@GCalltheway that’s an incredibly stupid argument you put forward. Why would doctors from overseas come and take a consultants job here when there are many other countries that value them properly? Doctors are leaving the NHS in droves? Like it or not, you need them they don’t need you.

jamsandwich1 · 28/06/2023 18:42

@Queenofthenight123 £500 a day doesn’t sound much at all for a consultant imo

WeAreBorg · 28/06/2023 19:16

@GCalltheway wanted to be a doctor but failed to get into medical school. She got the grades but was appalling at interview. Ironically she earns twice the salary of the average doctor now and in her spare time trolls them on the internet as she only does a 40 hour week.

Disclaimer: this may not be entirely factual

GCalltheway · 28/06/2023 19:24

WeAreBorg · 28/06/2023 19:16

@GCalltheway wanted to be a doctor but failed to get into medical school. She got the grades but was appalling at interview. Ironically she earns twice the salary of the average doctor now and in her spare time trolls them on the internet as she only does a 40 hour week.

Disclaimer: this may not be entirely factual

This post truly says everything about you.

GCalltheway · 28/06/2023 19:27

jamsandwich1 · 28/06/2023 18:41

@GCalltheway that’s an incredibly stupid argument you put forward. Why would doctors from overseas come and take a consultants job here when there are many other countries that value them properly? Doctors are leaving the NHS in droves? Like it or not, you need them they don’t need you.

I don’t need them, no, and quite frankly I would rather die in the street than be subjected to your patronising and insulting treatment. Or choose a private hospital that actually prioritises the patient.

You are doing yourself no favours btw. You are coming across as rude and ignorant.

FullTimeFurore · 28/06/2023 19:33

GCalltheway · 28/06/2023 19:27

I don’t need them, no, and quite frankly I would rather die in the street than be subjected to your patronising and insulting treatment. Or choose a private hospital that actually prioritises the patient.

You are doing yourself no favours btw. You are coming across as rude and ignorant.

And which consultants do you think are going to be working in your private hospitals you total clown? Not the nasty NHS ones? Do you think they have their own privately-generated consultants that they grow in house? Just stop embarrassing yourself.

Lapland123 · 28/06/2023 19:53

GCalltheway would choose a private hospital. But doesn’t want a consultant of any sort.

LOL

Swipe left for the next trending thread