Missing Titanic submarine

[Twinklesgolden]

How horrifying that a submarine carrying 5 people has gone missing. Apparently there’s only 96 hours of air on the submarine when it sets off.

The people on board must be terrified!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-65953872.amp

Is this tongue in cheek?

I can’t tell if sarcasm or not

Apparently the Deep Sea Challenger is on display at the LA Natural History Museum,

https://robbreport.com/motors/marine/james-cameron-deepsea-challenger-exhibition-1234786293/

Maybe they need to get hold of it!

Are you being sarcastic?

It's a horrible situation for those 5 people but there are dreadful.things going on around the world affecting far more people

It’s confusing right.

Well?

Probably bolted to deal with the pressures down there, when you have such pressures it's not just as simple as opening a door.

Whether sarcasm or not, there are enough millions of people on this planet to deal with many dreadful situations simultaneously. It's not like we can only do one thing at a time.

@CrunchyCarrot That was my thought too, but apparently it was damaged in a fire.

“While on a flatbed truck on Interstate 95 in Connecticut, the truck caught fire, resulting in damage to the submersible. The likely cause of the fire was from the truck's brake failure which ignited its rear tires. Connecticut fire officials speculated that it was a total loss to the Deepsea Challenger; however, the actual extent of the damage was not reported. The submersible was transported back to Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution after the fire.[44] As of February 2016,it had been moved to California for repairs.”

It will have been repaired for display purposes - not sure I’d want to test those repairs at 4000m underwater!!!

But surely you couldn't do that with pressure on the door from the outside anyway?

My DH thinks the most obvious explanation is that it imploded from the pressure - everyone would have died instantly so at least they wouldn't have suffered.

It will have been repaired for display purposes - not sure I’d want to test those repairs at 4000m underwater!!!

Uhhh yeah, it would be a huge risk. Might lead to two subs lost, not just one.

I genuinely and sincerely hope they are found safe and well, I would never wish harm or think they deserve this horrificness, but the arrogance to be told before embarking that there are these huge risks and to carry on just to fulfil a morbid interest is...interesting.

There didn't seem this global interest in the tragedy in Greece, if anyone ever needs reminding- your value as a human will always be deemed higher if you are rich.

Maybe it has to do with the direction the bolts are facing

As they are receiving huge pressure from outside

Maybe - but the ping signal wasn't lost near the bottom, the sub was only halfway or even less than that going down. So something happened partway through the descent. Could still be pressure or maybe an electrical fire shorted out the power?

I can't get over someone taking their child on this "mission".

are you joking? What about the hundreds of poor souls entombed on that migrant boat off Greece, and the many many more who take such horrific risks to flee every day? Are/were they less important than five millionaires?

There are so many awful awful things happening in the world. This is one of them but it's not the most important I don't think.

In effect, that's what's happening.

The rescue/recovery is being led by the US Coast Guard, supported by their military and the Canadian Coast Guard and military, and various deep sea specialist companies, oceanographers etc

I don't think you appreciate the distance they are from shore (and how long it would take assets from elsewhere to even reach the likeliest search areas)

Nor how very limited are the options for what you can do if the vessel has not surfaced independently.

What would cause the lack of pings? Defer to the experts, but the possibilities include failure of the "pinger" (can resurface normally, but no-one knows where it is to retrieve - this is the best case option, because if spotted in time, it would be possible to survive), complete power failure (might make it - slowly - to the surface, reducing window to be spotted and retrieved), trapped (by getting to close to the wreck, or something like a ghost fishing net, some of which are huge), or catastrophic failure (pressure down there is immense and breach of the vessel would mean instant death by crushing)

Of course I’m joking.

I find it bizarre that this is the top thread on Mumsnet, and was plastered all over the worlds papers.

Lots of people think money makes them invincible, or that people will risk their lives to rescue you should something happen- in this case even billions of pounds can't make a search and rescue likely to be successful.

Not on the same scale but there's a natural area near where I live that's incredibly dangerous to scale. It's fenced off, there are plenty of warnings yet people actively go out of their way to explore because they want to and because they assume others will risk their lives to save them should the need arise.

I am very conflicted about this . While on the one hand I am horrified at the thought of the passengers trapped in that tiny space, all well aware that the clock is ticking and that the likelihood of their rescue diminishes by the minute, I am also also aware of the extraordinary resources being poured into their rescue, the concern voiced over them as individuals, their lives and achievements being recognised. And I and can’t help comparing it with the situation in the med last week when well over 500 people, many of them children , also died at sea in equally horrendous circumstances. A tragedy which by all accounts could have had a completely different outcome had even a small effort been made to rescue them.

Their names known only to god.

No one knows for sure. The three main possibilities are:

It suffered a power failure and is sat on the sea bed 4 km down with little possibility of rescue.
It suffered a power failure and is slowly returning to the surface and hopefully they will find it in time.
It suffered a failure or damage to the pressure housing which resulted in an implosion killing everyone on board.

Either way their chances do not look good.

I would never do this as it seems so unsafe and what a tragedy. But I would be interested to view the titanic and see what was left, the parts of history and artifacts left behind.

I think it's more nuanced than that. Neither the Thai footballers nor the Chilean miners were rich, but they gripped the world headlines for days. The unusual always gets more attention, especially if it plays to atavistic fears

I appreciate that philanthropists fund all sorts of endeavours, but I don't think sending human beings 4k under the sea to look at a shipwreck can be dressed up as some sort of altruistic research mission. They wanted to do something not many other people have done and perhaps some are particularly interested in the Titanic.

Adventurers like to adventure. If you border on recklessness then no, I don't think endless resources should be ploughed into rescuing you, regardless of your income. Waivers are signed. The risks are known. I think the ticket price should include a rescue fund. I can't imagine this sort of venture is easily insurable.

Horrendous as it is, it's a completely unnecessary and avoidable scenario they find themselves in.