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Is Mumsnet racist, sexist, ableist, homophones, islamophobic, transphobic, misogynist, anti-semitic, ageist, childish?

137 replies

ShowerMusings · 09/06/2023 17:45

I see people constantly complaining on different corners of mn how terrible it is and I can't figure out why they can't make threads upon threads making their cases known. I also wonder why people stay where they hate. Makes me wonder if complaining just feels good?

I know I've left mumsnet many times once I couldn't handle it and after a few months or years, I've come back with fresh eyes and peace of mind till the next time it gets too much again.

So my questions are:
● If you're having an awful time on mumsnet, what's stopping you from taking a break?

● Is mumsnet really that bad? Is it really more racist, sexist, anti-semitic, ableist, ageist, childist, misogynist, homophobic, islamophobic, transphobic, etc than it was a year or more ago or have they improved?

● Are mumsnet moderators really not trying? If not, what more can they do to improve?

These are genuine questions and I'd like to know the problems and solutions from anyone who wishes to contribute. We all could benefit from it.
Thanks.

(And no, I'm not permanently on anyone's side. I simply say what I see).

OP posts:
Summerslimtime · 09/06/2023 17:57

I'm definitely a homophone.

Applecoresweet · 09/06/2023 17:59

It's a forum. People are always arguing. Posters don't all hold the same views hence the debates. It is not one homogenous group.

FuckNuggets · 09/06/2023 18:00

Summerslimtime · 09/06/2023 17:57

I'm definitely a homophone.

Grin
AutumnCrow · 09/06/2023 18:01

I was a homophone before she was ^^

PiffleIsTakingThePiss · 09/06/2023 18:01

I'm also a homophone but honestly I'm working so hard not to be Grin

PicnicBunny · 09/06/2023 18:02

To label me is to negate me. What’s with all these labels?

MichelleScarn · 09/06/2023 18:02

AutumnCrow · 09/06/2023 18:01

I was a homophone before she was ^^

Aye, I know that... 😉

JamSandle · 09/06/2023 18:03

A lot of people churn out -ism or -phobic when someone dares challenge or debate.

titchy · 09/06/2023 18:05

I'm a homophone and so's my wife Wink

Paperlate · 09/06/2023 18:06

Some people on MN are. Just like everywhere else on the internet.

IglesiasPiggl · 09/06/2023 18:12

Some people forget that MN is a huge forum and it's not the same people speaking on every thread.

hihohi · 09/06/2023 18:32

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hihohi · 09/06/2023 18:32

Someone's been reading reddit MN Trolls.

ShowerMusings · 09/06/2023 18:33

Summerslimtime · 09/06/2023 17:57

I'm definitely a homophone.

😁 Damn autocorrect. Just seen 'childish' too, instead of childist.

OP posts:
ShowerMusings · 09/06/2023 18:34

PicnicBunny · 09/06/2023 18:02

To label me is to negate me. What’s with all these labels?

It's what I'm trying to find out too.

OP posts:
ShowerMusings · 09/06/2023 18:36

JamSandle · 09/06/2023 18:03

A lot of people churn out -ism or -phobic when someone dares challenge or debate.

I agree.

Also for those (not) asking, I included all the labels because I'm not trying to single one out but these are all what many different posters have said about mn, so here's the chance.

OP posts:
maslinpan · 09/06/2023 18:39

I'm here because I'm childish.

ShowerMusings · 09/06/2023 18:40

The questions still stand.

Do you think mumsnet is (insert any of the labels or all of them)? If so, what can be done about it?

Do you think the moderators aren't doing enough? If so, what can they do to be enough?

OP posts:
AutumnCrow · 09/06/2023 18:40

maslinpan · 09/06/2023 18:39

I'm here because I'm childish.

Stupid boy

AutumnCrow · 09/06/2023 18:43

ShowerMusings · 09/06/2023 18:40

The questions still stand.

Do you think mumsnet is (insert any of the labels or all of them)? If so, what can be done about it?

Do you think the moderators aren't doing enough? If so, what can they do to be enough?

Well I would say ask Justine, Lily, Hope, Becky, but then it would sound like the Baby names board.

gamerchick · 09/06/2023 18:43

Mumsnet doesn't have moderators OP.

Random789 · 09/06/2023 18:45

lolol 'homophone'. People who always use phones that are the same sex as them? And 'childist'? What even is that? Discrimination between people on the grounds of whether or not they are a child?
If MN is worse than it used to be in respect of respecting identities, it is probably because the relevant identities, and the criteria for 'respecting' them, have proliferated. Please can we go back to everyone having the same human rights and duties, instead of pushing little identity-specific rights ghettos for every discriminated-against category?

TeenDivided · 09/06/2023 18:55

I think obviously there will be some posters that are <whatever>ist.

I think some 'ists' are more obvious than others.
if you are in a minority group that gets discriminated against you will be more finely tuned to see the 'ist' behaviour.
Sometimes the behaviour will be there, and sometimes it won't be.

e.g. Are posters posting negatively against Philip Schofield because he is gay or because of what he has done / tried to cover up?
e.g. Do some posters dislike Meghan primarily because she is mixed race, or is it because of how they perceive her behaviour and it has been perceived as negative independent of race.

The difficulty is knowing the intent behind individual posters if they aren't explicit.

Then on the transphobia front. Some people view women wanting single sex spaces to stay single sex as asserting feminism. Others view not accepting transwomen as actual women as transphobia whatever the circumstances.

Riapia · 09/06/2023 18:56

Not all of us.
We are a very select group.
😉😁😁

Nothingisblackandwhite · 09/06/2023 18:58

It is all you say and more and the reading we stay it’s the same reason you look at a car crash despite knowing it’s horrific . You just want to know how truly awful those around you really are behind a screen .
I have to say the part that makes me intrigued is why is there so many people who are not mums ( or in a maternal position ) on a forum for mums . It’s mind blowing .