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Did everyone else know this but me? Weather temperatures

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Lottle · 05/06/2023 09:15

I just found out that the temperatures given in the weather forecast are the temperatures in the shade!

No wonder I was constantly overdressed and boggled that "oh this is warm for 19 degrees".

What else don't I know?!

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RightWhereYouLeftMe · 05/06/2023 13:46

What I'd like to know, is why (on the bbc weather app) does the picture sometimes show rain at quite a low % chance, but not when it's a higher %.

Is it because, while at 17:00, there's a higher chance of rain, it won't rain for as long/be as heavy?
So the picture is saying "there's only a 10% chance of rain at 16:00, but if it happens, you'll know about it, whereas the rain at 17:00 is more likely but will be less actual rain"?
At 18:00 on that day, the picture is full sun, but a 35% chance of rain. I need answers!

Did everyone else know this but me? Weather temperatures
CharlottenBurger · 05/06/2023 13:58

Daftasabroom · 05/06/2023 13:33

Scattered showers no, not in 24hrs. I was thinking more 15 to 30 minutes, I'm a bit obsessive over the weather due to the sport I play.

I'm a bit obsessive about the weather, but I don't have any excuse! My American friend says it's the UK's nation obsession.

CharlottenBurger · 05/06/2023 14:01

national obsession

ChocChipHandbag · 05/06/2023 14:03

Google Stevenson screen OP. We learned this in school aged about 12.

Stevenson screen, anemometer, rain gauge.

Daftasabroom · 05/06/2023 14:05

Cut and paste but explains better than I can.

The probability of precipitation is predetermined and arrived at by the forecaster by multiplying two factors: Forecaster certainty that precipitation will form or move into the area X Areal coverage of precipitation that is expected

Using this, here are two examples giving the same statistical result:

(1) If the forecaster was 80% certain that rain would develop but only expected to cover 50% of the forecast area, then the forecast would read "a 40% chance of rain" for any given location.

(2) If the forecaster expected a widespread area of precipitation with 100% coverage to approach, but he/she was only 40% certain that it would reach the forecast area, this would, as well, result in a "40% chance of rain" at any given location in the forecast area.

Does that make sense?

VelvetUndergrounds · 05/06/2023 14:41

Seeline · 05/06/2023 09:40

Yes - dud you not do weather as part of geography at school.
We had a white box with louvred sides in the grounds at school as part of our weather station (Stevenson's Screen). The thermometers were kept inside it, out of the sun.

I always wondered what that white box was!

CharlottenBurger · 05/06/2023 15:20

ChocChipHandbag · 05/06/2023 14:03

Google Stevenson screen OP. We learned this in school aged about 12.

Stevenson screen, anemometer, rain gauge.

Thomas Stevenson, the father of author Robert Louis Stevenson. Not the railway engine bloke (George Stephenson with a ph).

ChocChipHandbag · 05/06/2023 15:23

They do look a bit like beehives @VelvetUndergrounds

PatchworkDonkey · 05/06/2023 15:25

Seeline · 05/06/2023 09:40

Yes - dud you not do weather as part of geography at school.
We had a white box with louvred sides in the grounds at school as part of our weather station (Stevenson's Screen). The thermometers were kept inside it, out of the sun.

We were taught weather as in how rain is created, types of clouds etc we didn't do anything about forecasting weather. I had geography upto age 14, I took history for GCSE instead, we couldn't do both.

Lottle · 05/06/2023 15:53

@RightWhereYouLeftMe yes! And it will say 18 degrees yet every hour individually is 17 or less!

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crossstitchingnana · 05/06/2023 19:17

EarlofShrewsbury · 05/06/2023 09:28

Did you know that the % given for rain isn't the % chance of rain but the percentage of the area forecast rain that will actually get rain.

If that makes sense.

I heard this recently but for me it's the same thing!

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