Did everyone else know this but me? Weather temperatures

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I just found out that the temperatures given in the weather forecast are the temperatures in the shade!

No wonder I was constantly overdressed and boggled that "oh this is warm for 19 degrees".

What else don't I know?!

That's only partially true though. It isn't "the temperature in the shade". Temperatures are properly taken in something called a Stevenson Screen, which is a box with slatted sides, which puts thermometer in a shady spot (so that radiation from the sun doesn't heat the thermometer) but which also allows for the free movement of air around it, so that air circulation mediates the temperature. It is more accurate to say that the temperature recorded is a median temperature - somewhere in the middle of "cool in the shade" and "hot in the sun". That is why some weather forecasts predict a "real feel" temperature as well, with the "real feel" being what it will likely feel like if you are outside in the open.

Yes, I did know. There are local variations in temperatures for all sorts of reasons, with greater variations on sunnier days. If you have a thick stone patio on the side of your house that's shady in the morning, it can be substantially cooler than the forecast temperature.

Disappointed OP that this was not covered in the school you went to.

I hope you know to stand on the right of an escalator, and that crackers when dropped land butter (or margarine) side down. The weather is better when children are at school usually, 99% of men look awful in shorts, and no one owns a cat it owns you.

Woah, I had no idea!

This is the reason I bought 2 thermometers to put in my garden last year to read the temperature in the sun and the shade

Actually I should carry one around in my bag when I go outside just to see what the real temp actually is. Not that I haven't got enough crap in there already

@LlynTegid stand on the right on an escalator? The opposite to roads?!

I'm thoroughly enjoying all of the posters snidely expressing surprise and bafflement that not everyone knows this.

I did know but I can guarantee that there are things others consider common knowledge that I don't know. And the same applies to the superior posters on this thread. NOBODY KNOWS EVERYTHING, get over yourselves.

Yes i knew this, its the same abroad, temperature is taken in the shade in the morning.

Yes you stand on the right so everyone who wants to can walk down the escalator on the left hand side.

You'd only really know this as a commuter and you learn pretty quickly

Yes, I did know this!

I didn't know, that siblings will not have the same DNA results, if they do a My Heritage or Ancestry test. I just presumed if I did one, that my sister wouldn't need to. But that's not the case!

Shame to find that a thread which began with the promise of being interesting quickly turned into a bunch of people belittling each other

@LlynTegid that does ring a bell actually. And dogs must be carried (thanks Paddington)

So all the people scoffing at other posters saying avoid taking your dog out in the heat are wrong, as 23 degrees in a house is not the same as 23 degrees outside unless you are always in the shade

Exactly. It's the temperature of the air, not of other conditions like sun, rain or window. I also thought this was common knowledge.

I do quite like the "feels like" temperatures many sites use now, especially in winter.

Buuuut… it has always been that way. So when the weather forecast says 20 degrees I know what that usually feels like in the sun regardless of the reading being taken in the shade.

@SimonsCow yes but I was always thinking 20 degrees Is comfortable room temperature then go outside and be boiling. Repeatedly! Overdressed. I don't learn apparently!

I’ve always known it was taking the air temperature in the shade but never really thought it through - I assumed the air temperature in the sun was higher. But from what people are saying, the air temperature in the sun is the same and it’s only solid objects like people and thermometers that are heated by the infrared radiation from the sun?

news to me i learnt something new i did not know that .

Mine is in a box - a white ventilated box and placed in the shade of the ground. That’s where it should be for accurate readings

I've always known this, my parents would always say on holiday it's X degrees in the shade, typical brits on hol obsessing about the weather. It also doesn't take into account the breeze, its just air temp so it can feel hotter or colder than is forecast. I guess it isn't clear unless someone explains it.

Yes it's the same

I learnt this at school..!

The air can be warmed by the sun - there are areas of warmer and cooler air that is caused to rise and fall and create different weather for example.

Yes, I knew this. But there's no telling people. This is why we have whole threads full of posters telling people to toughen up with cold indoor temperatures because they are wearing shorts and t-shirts when it's 18c outdoors 🙄🙄