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Is retirement all it's cracked up to be?

280 replies

madroid · 04/06/2023 13:08

If you have actually retired, are you enjoying it?

All things being equal, without, for example, health problems are you actually enjoying your free time? What do you do? What does your day look like?

I imagine there's a 'honeymoon' period where you relish not having to get up to go to work, catch up with all sorts of things... but then what? What have you got into?

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polkadotdalmation · 05/06/2023 13:02

My uncle retired years ago at 55. He's had cycling holidays, cycling club, golfing clubs and holidays and has traveled the world extensively. It's been a bit curtailed lately as his wife developed dementia. So I'm glad he had that time to enjoy life.

Motheranddaughter · 05/06/2023 13:09

A few of my friends are talking about retiring early but I have to say I really don’t fancy it
The people I know who have retired seem to have aged 10 years,and make such a song and dance about the simplest things
I do love my work,and my life as it is ,which probably helps

givemushypeasachance · 05/06/2023 13:18

What I find amazing from reading this thread is how many retired people are caring for or mention visiting elderly parents. It highlights how people retiring in their 50s and 60s may still be living on into their 80s and 90s - having been retired for thirty or forty years!

I am currently in my thirties, public sector job, don't own a house and little prospect of doing so any time soon, retirement seems like a baffling and impossible concept to me full stop. By the time I'm in my sixties or seventies, more of the population will be "of pension age" than not, and how will that work...

Whatliesbeneath707 · 05/06/2023 13:23

I think this comes down to how sociable you were in the working years. My mum & dad have both retired and they are busy seeing friends separately, but they do things together also (mini breaks, gym classes, walks etc). My MIL & FIL are the opposite. Both retired, neither had any plans to do much. MIL didn't have many friends to do things with and sadly both are now stuck at home with a raft of medical conditions that has affected their physical & mental health. Out of the 2 sets of parents, my in laws were much better off financially, but will end up spending their hard earned cash on care home fees. It's really sad to see.

Mollyplop999 · 05/06/2023 13:27

I've been retired 5 years and I love it. My husband retired 4 years ago. We are never bored but we have lots to keep us busy. We don't have money for foreign holidays (not that I've ever been) but we have 3 ponies that keep me busy. I like that we see each other more, but definitely don't spend all our time together.

YukoandHiro · 05/06/2023 13:37

givemushypeasachance · 05/06/2023 13:18

What I find amazing from reading this thread is how many retired people are caring for or mention visiting elderly parents. It highlights how people retiring in their 50s and 60s may still be living on into their 80s and 90s - having been retired for thirty or forty years!

I am currently in my thirties, public sector job, don't own a house and little prospect of doing so any time soon, retirement seems like a baffling and impossible concept to me full stop. By the time I'm in my sixties or seventies, more of the population will be "of pension age" than not, and how will that work...

It won't. I'm 40 and fully expect to be retiring at 70 earliest, maybe later.

YukoandHiro · 05/06/2023 13:38

Giggorata · 05/06/2023 12:57

I was also surprised to see how much less I spent.
Obviously there was no commute to work, with less fuel and vehicle wear and tear costs, less need for clothes and shoes, no purchases of lunches, contributions to birthdays, sponsored this and that, fewer hairdresser visits.
Winter fuel and going out went up a bit, but overall, I spent less.

Being able to pay off the mortgage and being debt free was also a big part of my retirement preparation. That and making sure I had enough books and music and things for winter hibernation.

DH goes out less than I do but does most of the shopping, goes down to the allotment and to the village pub, so I don't feel we're crowding each other and I get my much needed alone time.
In a way, lockdown was a sort of dress rehearsal for retirement and certainly influenced my decision not to return to the office.

I felt like this on mat leave: expected to be skint but ended up making savings as spent on nothing except heating and food bills.

HatchetJob · 05/06/2023 13:43

I think what you need is some kind of structure otherwise the days would just run together I’m sure.

My MIL talked about retiring non stop for 20 years. She then retired and did nothing. Absolutely nothing. She still went food shopping at 4pm on a Saturday, like when she worked. She talked about being busy but in reality she was having naps and watching tv all day. I know my FIL was bored rigid as well, but he had a hobby and did all the day to day chores/shopping. It turned her into a more unpleasant woman than she was already as she had so much time on her hands.

SwedishEdith · 05/06/2023 13:43

Whatevergetsyouthroughthenight · 05/06/2023 09:38

I always wanted to retire early and achieved it - I started winding down with part time work before hand for a few years and cultivated friendships old and new and hobbies old and new.

I wouldn’t want to go back to work, I have sufficient social life and hobbies that I do enjoy (and money to do it with) and I don’t miss work at all, but will admit to feeling a lack of purpose and have found that this stage of life can be filled with grief and loss and it all feels a bit pointless as it’s not going to end well for any of us!

My DH died, my DPs died and as my old friends reached retirement age many decided to up sticks and start a new life elsewhere a long way away geographically with their spouse. Yes, I can visit but I certainly won’t see them so frequently.

Not sure what the answer is yet to my existential crisis!

Yes, this is what I worry it will really be like. I don't have family all over the country to visit. I have a lovely garden but I'm not yearning to do more with it. I'm not interested in sport or the gym but feel I'd need to do something to fill the time and because it's good for me. I'm not overly interested in volunteering - would feel like work. I don't want to hang around with retired people.

Suddenlysummer · 05/06/2023 14:15

Retirement for me is lovely, because I feel free from time restraints. I'm a carer for my husband. Because of his health problems our life is severely restricted. No more holidays, not even whole days out. But I get time to enjoy the company of the man I absolutely adore.

BanditsOnTheHorizon · 05/06/2023 14:30

My Dad has a better social life than me and my dh put together. He's always off to spa days, days away, quiz nights, afternoon teas, days out etc. he also helps a lot of the more elderly in his village, he will shop for them, take them to hospital appointments, in return he gets his dinners cooked and cakes baked.

I think a lot has to do with your outlook and personality. If you're sociable and outgoing then it's easier. Money also helps, if you've got a decent pension then you can afford the outings, days out etc, I imagine if you're skint it could be very lonely

Giggorata · 05/06/2023 14:33

SwedishEdith · 05/06/2023 13:43

Yes, this is what I worry it will really be like. I don't have family all over the country to visit. I have a lovely garden but I'm not yearning to do more with it. I'm not interested in sport or the gym but feel I'd need to do something to fill the time and because it's good for me. I'm not overly interested in volunteering - would feel like work. I don't want to hang around with retired people.

SwedishEdith, have you considered (or even heard of) the Independent Visitor Scheme?
This is a scheme run by Local Authorities for children and young people in care who don't have contact with family for whatever reason and who don't have anyone outside the system and who isn't paid to be with them.
It is the opposite of hanging around with retired people!

Volunteers are matched with a child in care and go through an interview and vetting process (In my authority, a panel from our Children in Care Council also interviewed them)
They are asked to make a minimum commitment, generally a year, and take the child out maybe once a month, fortnightly in some authorities.
They aren't expected to go somewhere that is a massive treat more than occasionally, most of the time it is low key, dog walks, parks, hobbies, playground, beach sort of things, because the focus is on befriending.
There is a small allowance for mileage, drinks, ice creams, etc.
Independent Visitors have regular contacts with the scheme organisers, who will advise on any arising issues.

Anyone else considering volunteering in their retirement, this is a brilliant scheme that isn't too demanding time wise and would really make a difference to a child.

Crikeyalmighty · 05/06/2023 14:59

@Giggorata thank you for this- I would love to do this- looking into it now

BeaBachinasec · 05/06/2023 17:25

But I get time to enjoy the company of the man I absolutely adore

That's lovely ♡

SummerSimmer · 05/06/2023 17:42

*Do you miss a sense of purpose?

Do you ever feel it's a selfish life? I think I'd struggle with the putting myself first always after a lifetime of being conditioned to put my family first*
The answer is no to these questions, I feel liberated to finally put myself first.

fussychica · 05/06/2023 17:46

Retired at 46 when we'd paid off our mortgage. Sold our house and moved abroad with 10 year old DS in tow, buying a small doer upper and living off the the interest and some capital from the sale of the UK house. Spent our time renovating it alongside being drawn back in to bits and bobs of work for the first few years. Moved to a bigger doer upper and renovated that. Had a very active social life. Came back to UK for various reasons after a decade but still travel around Europe for about a third of the year, sometimes seeking out the sun, it was more but Brexit made things more difficult.

Never bored. I do a Zumba class twice a week, go walking, NT, days out, shopping, reading. Last week we nipped off to Amsterdam for 2 days as we had tickets for the Vermeer exhibition and next week we're off to Pembrokeshire. In September we'll do our usual 8 weeks away in France and Spain.
We are both very lucky to be in generally good health and enjoy each others company. Financially it wasn't straightforward as we have never been well off but we always felt our time together as a family was more important than possessions. Now receiving state pension, albeit six year later than expected.

I love not working and wouldn't go back if you paid me😆

Mimilamore · 05/06/2023 18:06

I bloody love it, bad night's sleep.. no matter go back to bed when I want, no forcing myself into work tired . Don't feel like peopling? Great go for a solitary walk. Need to do life admin/ sort house out, spend the whole day doing it at my pace. Free to go somewhere off peak, yes I am thank you! Fancy a day just sitting on the beach? Here I come. Want to stay up late? No prob, get up when I want to. Do all tedious things off peak with no queuing, that's me. Poorly child, oh yes, I can give my utmost attention! Nobody to answer to/ ask permission from... I never lived to work, now I can enjoy my house and garden rather than slave away to pay for it and never be in it. Thoroughly recommend!

Abracadabra12345 · 05/06/2023 18:06

@theresnolimits

Sounds great but as the husbands I know wouldn't do any of those things even prior to retirement, I can safely say we move in different circles 😁

SwedishEdith · 05/06/2023 18:25

Thank you @Giggorata - that does sound worthwhile.

BarrelOfOtters · 05/06/2023 18:49

Planning on dropping a day a week to prepare. More worried that dh might retire same time as me. I could do with a couple of years first on my own…

AllllTheSmallThings · 05/06/2023 19:09

givemushypeasachance · 05/06/2023 13:18

What I find amazing from reading this thread is how many retired people are caring for or mention visiting elderly parents. It highlights how people retiring in their 50s and 60s may still be living on into their 80s and 90s - having been retired for thirty or forty years!

I am currently in my thirties, public sector job, don't own a house and little prospect of doing so any time soon, retirement seems like a baffling and impossible concept to me full stop. By the time I'm in my sixties or seventies, more of the population will be "of pension age" than not, and how will that work...

We'll have to have saved a lot of money. Especially those of us who are single so will need to live off one pension income.

UsingChangeofName · 05/06/2023 19:16

I've also seen too many people age a decade in a year as a result of retiring- work keeps you young, or at least having daily tasks and social interactions do. Pottering around the garden is nice but is the fast track to decline.

I think this very much depends on your profession.
Whenever I've seen colleagues that have retired, they look a decade younger within a year, once all the stress of work is gone.

anythinginapinch · 05/06/2023 19:17

I retired six years ago at 52. I'm bored now. I have a good income, health. And this feeling of limbo. I do love a great deal about my life but fundamentally I lack a sense of achievement, of using my brain, and I miss the sense of joint endeavour and camaraderie that comes from working with (nice) colleagues.

I lack the motivation and desire to travel alone. I find days and days pass and I've achieved naff all: so I've planted some plants, dug the allotment a bit, made a pot (I do pottery), chatted to a few friends, but so what? I look at my neighbours with a young family and feel envious of their busy full lives and the "unexpected" that happens in families.

The most "unexpected" thing in my life is when the cat misses the edge of his litter tray.

atthebottomofthehill · 05/06/2023 19:18

I cant envisage the wonderful retirements of the boomers around me. How on earth will I have the money to fund the lunches, holidays, hobbies? No chance. We'll all be broke!

TreeLine23 · 05/06/2023 19:31

My DH is retiring next year aged 59. I can't afford to, so will carry on working but luckily I really love my job.

He will be off wandering the countryside and getting even more eccentric than he is now. 🙄

One of his friends retired a few years ago & is always off out and about (birdwatcher) but his poor wife is not a well person & it doesn't quite sit right with me that he buggers off all day, leaving her at home on her own. 🤨