The NHS is collapsing - what can we do?

[FedUpWithTheNHS]

First of all, I am not interested to do more bashing on GPs, NHS, nurses and whatnot. I sincerely do not think the issue is with them. So let's leave it at that.

But I have been trying to get some support for myself and struggle to get anywhere.
I have family members who have been waiting months, turning into years for severe issues and they are left in pain and scared.
I read threads on here (the one on sepsis, cancer scare etc...) and it's more of the same.

The system is collapsing but there isn't a private sector to pick up the pieces. I had to wait 4 mnths to see a cardiologist privately.... And now another 6 weeks to be able to have the prescription from my GP (At more than £100 per month, I just can't afford to get said prescription privately).
It very much feels like we are left to die, from no healthcare, tbh.

So far, I have written to my MP.
I am supporting groups working against the 'privatisation of the NHS'.
I'd vote Labour but tbh, just now, I can't say theyve filled me with confidence they will actually do what is needed. Which is increasing funding and ensuring doctors and nurses are staying in the UK and the NHS (at the very least)

What else can I, we, do?
I feel like we need to start shouting. LOUD. Very loud. But I am at loss as to what else I can do :((

There is horticultural therapy for depression. Very effective apparently!

Health does take time and effort. I don't think it's so clear when you are younger but in your 40s and 50s you see it pretty clearly. People get sick based on lifestyle at that point.

I'd imagine that pensioners have already made their contribution during their working age.

I'm talking about people that CAN work but just don't want to...not a 75 year old nanna.

So i suspect we also have a major social problem.

which is also impacting the NHS workforce. Low wages, high tax, high housing costs, stress. Why not take the job in Oz for a much better qol?

The point is that we are paying more fir tte current system than we used for less service.

Easy to say it costs too much when you’ve multiplied the cost by 2 or 3.
maybe the answer is to NOT go private to get more fir your money.l..

I'm talking about people that CAN work but just don't want to...not a 75 year old nanna.

If unemployment figures are low, that means most people who can work, do work though….

I just think we need to look at the whole picture in order to fix the NHS

I agree but social inequality, qe & asset price inflation, stagnant wages etc are not easy things to fix!

Of course it won't help everyone. But if collectively everyone managed their health well there would be less pressure on the entire system thus helping the type of people in your examples.

I realise it's not that simple but it would be a start

No, and I suspect whoever has the magic wand that will fix them will make themselves a billionaire off the back of it!

Labour's plans for the NHS.https://labour.org.uk/press/labour-to-deliver-10-year-plan-for-change-and-modernisation-of-the-nhs/

Buy your own paracetamol/hay fever tablets it's cheap at the supermarket.

Any visitor to the UK should have travel insurance.
Do you all realise that anyone can go to A&E from overseas and be treated.
It costs up to £500 per interpreter via telephone.

Stop doing vasectomies, sterilisations on the NHS.

It's up to the general public to help as the government whatever party is in charge don't care.

Be proactive in keeping healthy and active and pray not to get ill or have an accident.

Honestly we are fucked. Even if we had a competent set of politicians with a clear plan ( we don’t, either in government or opposition), it would take decades to solve this mess.

I’m aging and do have an underlying health condition. It is worrying what the future likely holds for me in our collapsed system.

Never thought I would say it, but, assuming you have decent health insurance, I actually now think the USA health care systems is better.

Vote Labour.

Prioritise our own physical and mental health. Take personal responsibility for it.

I agree . There has been more money pumped into the NHS .

see people complaining , quite rightly . But never concrete ideas .

reduce management ?
we all pay a lot more NI
make the jobs more flexible , more attractive ?
change management structure
back to cottage hospitals to stop bed blocking ?

etc etc ?

just saying I don’t have answers but I hardly ever see radical ideas .

So do I and i disagree completely! It's not collapsing. Struggling yes. But not collapsing!

Eat 10 pieces of fruit and veg per day, and cut out refined sugar. If everyone did that we'd have much less need for the NHS.

Apparently if people followed the 10 pieces of fruit/veg recommendation worldwide it would cut 7.8 million premature deaths per year from things like cancer and strokes.

https://www.foodnavigator.com/Article/2017/02/24/Eat-10-pieces-of-fruit-and-vegetables-a-day-to-live-longer-say-scientists#:~:text=Eating%2010%20portions%20(800%20g,deaths%20worldwide%2C%20according%20to%20researchers.

Fund the NHS to the same level per capita as France, or better still, Germany.

Give it time to recover, as it has spent years in disaster mode, lurching from crisis to crisis and it will take a while to stabilise it and turn it around.

I'd imagine that pensioners have already made their contribution during their working age.

They haven't which is one of the issues....

I'm talking about people that CAN work but just don't want to...not a 75 year old nanna.

Why are you assuming todays pensioners weren't yesterdays benefit scrounges? Plus plenty of them stopped working before 75...

I would laugh if someone suggested local clubs to me as a way to manage issues I’d been to a Dr about - and then decline the offer. I couldn’t imagine anything worse than the forced jollity at such a group

The state pension age is now 73 for millennials so 75 is not a doddery old nanna

So are they just going to put up NI a and pump money in ? Just interested as I have not heard them talk about an actual plan ?

Who pays more in your view?

Yes good start plus in wales they even have special diets prescribed even if they are high earners .

The point is that we are paying more fir tte current system than we used for less service.

We are but we already have more over 65s than under 15s. It's not sustainable to have years of state pension & free healthcare. We will keep paying more & getting less as we have a shrinking tax paying base.

Stop doing vasectomies, sterilisations on the NHS.

This seems a bit of a false economy.

Eat 10 pieces of fruit and veg per day,

That is a lot of fruit & veg for a 2.4 person household & 100% requires money & time to shop regularly for it, store it etc.