Encouraging children into nursing, care work, dentistry, teaching.

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With the lack of medical staff, dentists, carers, teachers and the like how many parents are actively encouraging their children into these careers?
Just curious.

All teachers enjoy part of their jobs, @Cazelet . We enjoy the bit with the children.

What we don't enjoy is the Ofsted bullshit, the shit management, the govt expectations and the ridiculous workload.

As a carer I will never ever encourage my dc into it!!! High responsibility, low pay, long hours etc

Both me and DC's father are band 6 nurses in community type roles. No nights, weekends or evenings. Potential for promotion into band 7 and 8 roles if really wanted. Also live rurally and the wage and benefits are hard to replicate in other sectors. The salaries aren't enormous, but there is an element of security which I value. So if my DC said they wanted to be a nurse I don't think I would discourage them, however I would talk very openly about the difference between our jobs and what it may be like to work on a general adult ward. I wouldn't encourage them to plan to enter any career that involves nights and weekends long-term. I realise my experience of nursing is probably very far-removed from the majority of nurses though sadly.
Mine currently want to be teacher and vet, but they are still young primary, so I expect it will change many times over...

Basically this, v well put @ComtesseDeSpair I don't even feel I could mentor a student just now feel so despondent!

Exactly this.

Also, the other careers listed by the OP are careers that I would actively discourage my children from pursuing. Dreadful pay and conditions.

@Cazelet I have teacher family & friends. They earn well, like their roles & get time off for doctors appointments & nativity. Of course if I say this I get accused of lying. It's very much dependent on culture of the head & SLT though.

This. I wouldn't encourage nursing or care work either due to lack of pay compared to workload. Also I imagine not at all family-friendly.

Oh and ultimately I’d like to either be a palliative or wound specialist nurse so it does offer lots of other routes into other things and other places

Tbh I find this too. Others seem more stressed even if pay is higher. But maybe mn is the place for sharing annoyance

Oh, I love teaching!

I don't love the bureaucracy; the arbitrary ofsted demands; the pointless paperwork which doesn't benefit the children in any way; the changing government goalposts; the complete lack of understanding of child development in those who set the curricula.

Oh and I don't love the verbal abuse or physical assaults especially when there are absolutely no sanctions for the children (or parents) who do it.

This is the saddest part of all really. Passionate professionals who have worked hard to get qualified who enjoy the actual job but hate the work because of all of the extra rubbish and demands- thinking of teachers and those in healthcare but expect it affects lots. It's sad (but understandable) that teachers who enjoy teaching are leaving in droves because of the conditions and pointless filler that takes them away from actually teaching.

I used to be a teacher, I wouldn't want my DC to teach in the UK

I didn't encourage or discourage dd into teaching.
However, despite seeing the really difficult times she's also seen the fabulous times too. To be fair it's all she's really wanted to do for many years now. She has gone into with her eyes wide open, having seen teachers do the job first hand, and having done regular, consistent work experience over several years.

Dd has just completed her primary education degree this last week.

She's heading to the US to work there for the summer in a few short weeks and then will return home to start looking for her first teaching job during the coming academic year. She's looking forward to it at the moment and really hope she manages to secure herself a supportive good school which keeps her feeling passionate and enthused about teaching.

Passionate professionals who have worked hard to get qualified who enjoy the actual job but hate the work because of all of the extra rubbish and demands- thinking of teachers and those in healthcare but expect it affects lots

There are very few jobs that don't come with extra rubbish & demands that get in the way of the actual job.

I can't think of any other (except social work) that attracts the same vitriol and disrespect as teaching does.

I've told DD she can do any job in the world apart from follow me into teaching!

I can relate to this.
I loved looking after patients and I really miss it since I retired. I also miss a lot of my immediate colleagues- I have worked in some fantastic teams.
But I don't miss being an NHS employee at all. I don't miss being asked to treat more and more ever sicker people without the resources to do so and under increasingly intense scrutiny. I don't miss being told which patients I am supposed to prioritise by managers with no clinical knowledge or having to resist pressure to do clinically inappropriate things because of cost etc. I don't miss spending all night in the hospital because I was too concerned about particular patients to leave, and sleeping on my office floor because our Trust no longer provides on call rooms. And then getting threatened with disciplinary action for sleeping in an unauthorised area. And so on.
My disenchantment had very little to do with pay. It's true that in real terms my salary was worth considerably less at the end of my Consultant career than it was half way through, but it was still plenty. It wasn't even the hours, as I am from the 100+ hours a week as a junior generation and I didn't hate my job then. No, it was being treated like a piece of worthless shit by my employer when I had slogged my guts out for them for most of adult life that led to me deciding enough was enough. And that's why I wouldn't encourage anyone into medicine.

I wouldn’t encourage my kids into caring. I did it and the wages are rubbish and the job very difficult. I’d actively discourage them and tell them they’d be better off doing shop work or similar which is same wages but much better lifestyle.

I wouldn’t actively encourage them into dentistry, teaching etc either. If I was really passionate about filling the gaps in what we need in this country then I feel it would be my responsibility to go out and do the training and hard work and fill those gaps, not tell my kids they have to be a dentist because there’s a national shortage.

@OldChinaJug I think my police friends would disagree!

does anyone respect estate agents, traffic wardens, bailiffs or GP receptionists!

Care work?

DD, fancy an massively underpaid, not very safe, physically difficult job where you deal with bodily fluids, heavy lifting and have to be a warm, kind, loving, compassionate person. Oh, and people will treat you like shit.

Yeah, no.

I’d add MPs they get loads of abuse (or worse)

Marketing gets it fair share of derision

I have to deal with bailiffs as part of my job and I do respect the ones I meet. Kind, calm and respectful. I suspect I am very lucky to have good ones.

I'm a teacher (23 years in) and still live bits of my job but I'd never encourage ds into it

I manage because I'm toughened to it, and I still live for ligtbulb moments but I've seen colleagues absolutely broken by the workload, constant criticism and the sheer weight of the needs of students in these difficult times.

It's not the job I trained for - and it's not worth the uni debt. Most NQTs leave way too soon to justify it