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productiveprocrastinator · 08/05/2023 18:56

Following on from another thread, and at the risk of getting slated...

Would love some thoughts from either professionals or people diagnosed with ADHD as adults. As the title suggests, I think I possibly have ADHD, for the below reasons. I work full time by the way, but the below issues do have a huge impact on my life, mental health etc. and have been present since early childhood.

The obvious one- terrible focus on things I find dull but periods of hyper focus when I get the idea in my head. E.g., try really hard to listen in meetings but inevitably realise suddenly that I have been daydreaming for 15 mins and have no idea what was said, find it really hard to start tasks even though I really want to be productive and get them done, make a lot of "5 more mins" deals with myself, the usual, probably quite normal stuff. This has been an issue since I was a child- I never once had a parents evening in my entire school career where the teacher didn't say "lovely student but never stops chatting in lessons".

Am really untidy, but hate mess and it really stresses me, and will then have periods where I suddenly decide to tidy and be up until 3am ripping a room apart to organise every inch (which then lasts about a week!!) Have been this way since I was a child.

Work in a job that has short deadlines, lots of last minute changes and huge variety in the day today and this suits me down to the ground luckily, so it hasn't stopped my career progression, but does cause me extra stress as I either do things the second they land on my plate (usually if they are quick tasks) or else forget about them completely and leave them until the minute after the last minute. I do always manage to get things done (99% anyway) and I actually think my colleagues would describe me as very organised and efficient, but it has taken years of honing those skills and I do feel that all of those skills go into work and therefore home is a shit show!

Have frequent periods of days or weeks of fatigue, anxiety and inability to force myself do basic tasks, followed by periods where I am relatively on it, make lists, set alarms, make myself do things like 20 mins of quick tidying and actually find it really effective so promise myself this is the new me, but it always starts to slip and the cycle continues.

Often zone out and stare into space, mid activity, mid conversation, mid sentence can forget words or what I was saying.

Struggle to do simple things, e.g. recently bought some supplements to try and help with brain fog, frequently see them on the counter and think "I must take those" and another, stronger part of my brain goes "I'll do it later" even though it would take literally 2 seconds and they are right there and I end up not taking them.

Am frequently late despite trying really hard to be on time, have always been bad for losing everything and forgetting things since I was in primary school.

I have developed a lot of strategies that help me hugely, like doing things in short bursts, lists, etc but it is so exhausting.

My question is- could it be ADHD? And if it is, is it even worth pursuing a diagnosis?

OP posts:
DuranNotSpandeau · 08/05/2023 23:50

@Notlostjustexploring thank you for your post, that's such a helpful way of explaining how the medication works for you.

productiveprocrastinator · 08/05/2023 23:50

@runlift teaching...not a popular opinion, but I quite like it 😬

OP posts:
Whyishewearingasombero · 08/05/2023 23:51

IhearyouClemFandango · 08/05/2023 22:11

Yup, this is me. I hold a.lot of regret, I could never understand how I could absolutely smash an interview for example but find it really hard to actually do the job.

I've been diagnosed but am waiting for a follow up to discuss medication. I'm keen because i do struggle day to day, even with things like personal care, will power, discipline etc. I would like to be a better grown up.

Even DH spots it in me now.

On the other hand, I'm pleased to know I'm not just a lazy fuck up, my brain sabotages me.

Oh, the issue of brilliant interviews and then feeling that I end up disappointing everyone at work. I over prepare and hyper focus for every interview and I have them every time - but inevitably feel such a fraud a year down the line.

I've recently started as a community fundraiser and it suits me completely - fast moving, creative, no two days the same. They think I'm wonderful - and I am! This is the first job I've had, armed with the understanding that I probably have inattentive ADHD. And I'm building in strategies to make sure I don't slip this time.

Whyishewearingasombero · 08/05/2023 23:55

I ace interviews every time, I meant to say. I know every time I will be offered the job.

FiloPasty · 08/05/2023 23:58

I’m too lazy to give a full answe but 100% yes but despite me going to the go multiple times, being put on a diagnosis pathway I’m 4 years on and still haven’t been assessed :( it’s Crap

productiveprocrastinator · 08/05/2023 23:59

@Notlostjustexploring that's really useful thank you. One tab open... to me right now that sounds not only unachievable, but actually quite scary. As does having quiet in my head!

It sounds stupid but I genuinely think I'd be unstoppable if I could actually focus. I've spent my whole life developing skills that mean I'm actually really efficient in a weird way, in that often I can do something that would take my colleague an hour in less half the time, purely because I've had to build those skills in order to counteract all of the time that I waste, so who knows what I could do if I actually used the time available to me!

Your comment on eating well and exercising also really resonates- I can't tell you how often I've started an over ambitious exercise regime or healthy eating plan and let it slide after a week. It feels like such a vicious circle because I know I would have more energy if I could stick to those things, but I don't have the energy to stick to them...

OP posts:
Maddy70 · 09/05/2023 00:03

I could have written your post. But I have resisted medication throughout life. I try to develop coping skills. One of which I'd recognising my faults and not hearing myself up over them.

You need to make lists and tick them off every day

VaulterTech · 09/05/2023 00:06

Thanks for starting this thread op, I’m another that could have written your post (again, apart from the chatting).

the interviews point is interesting too, I feel like I dazzle at interview but then disappoint day to day. Also really interested to hear about the medication benefits. If I just cracked on, I’d achieve so much! But I just can’t.

ToBeOrNotToBee · 09/05/2023 07:13

I genuinely could have written this word for word.

What are the next steps for diagnosis and treatment as a 33 year old because my work is suffering badly and my home life is a mess.

tadpolecity · 09/05/2023 07:34

DuranNotSpandeau · 08/05/2023 22:18

I too managed a 2:1 at uni but was told it should have been a first. I was so annoyingly close. I kept thinking if I had started stuff earlier instead of leaving it always to the last minute then I could have managed it.

Me too. My closest shave was running down the corridor to hand my dissertation in 3 minutes before the deadline...18 months in the making and I almost missed having it accepted.

Me too. Missed a first due to putting off work on a project to the last min then dropping marks. All other elements were way above the mark.
I'm too old to bother with diagnosis now but my life would have been very different if I'd known at age 12 like my DD

R41NB0W2022 · 09/05/2023 08:27

DorcasLanesOneWeakness · 08/05/2023 21:10

R41NBOWS, what do you expect to get from therapy? It makes it sound as if you believe ADHD is a mental health problem, as opposed to neurodivergence.
My DD was referred for assessment at the end of primary school (still waiting, two years later), so I'm watching with interest, wrt medication.
I put my own traits down to a decade + of sleep deprivation, intense parenthood and the onset of perimenopause...

@DorcasLanesOneWeakness
I’m mindful of us not hijacking the OP post, so I’m happy to chat in private messages after this if you need to.

I’m going to answer your question based on my assumption that I do have adhd.
No I don’t believe that adhd is a, ‘Mental health problem,’ but I do believe it negatively impacts my mental health.

My hope is that therapy will:

  • give me coping strategies to complete basic tasks easier
  • help to better understand myself and not think so negatively about myself if I can’t achieve something as easily as others
  • help to explain what happens in my head to my family so I’m not just considered ‘the late one’ or ‘messy one’
  • discuss the pros and cons of sharing a diagnosis with work and figuring out how they could support me
Righthandman · 09/05/2023 09:54

OP I think I probably have ADHD. (I also suspect I’m autistic so I suppose it might only be one or the other 🤷‍♀️ My DC are currently in various stages of the assessment processes for either or both.) I recognise a lot of what you’ve described in yourself, but I think I always assumed I was ‘coping’ and to be ‘diagnosable’ it would have to be much more extreme. Then I really crashed in 2020, like @Notlostjustexploring I do wonder, for how many of us who probably have ADHD and were ‘coping’ was covid the final straw?

For me, I just got my first but I couldn’t organise myself for my PhD and after I dropped out I coasted in jobs that were in proximity to academia but mostly didn’t even require a degree. I totally understand what you mean about being unstoppable if you could actually focus. I sometimes think I could run the country- well!- if I could maintain focus and determination more than 5% of the time.

The comments about conversations in your head as well. I didn’t know other people did that! But I have so many imaginary arguments, all soundtracked by, sometimes sung along to, ceebeebies theme tunes.

Im curious about the medication too. I’ve been through all the readily available antidepressants in my time and they all made me feel like a foggy lump- less anxious perhaps but still aware I was procrastinating or missing deadlines. Still not able to get up and get on. I don’t want that anymore. If I could feel less anxious, focus better and still have ideas, feel enthusiastic about things I think I’d be unrecognisable.

Radi0Wales · 09/05/2023 10:25

Oh everyone bloody has it. So bored of this now.

MaryBoggintonTrotterSmyke · 09/05/2023 11:20

Argh the imaginary conversations! I'm constantly arguing in my head, good to hear I'm not the only one...

Righthandman · 09/05/2023 11:36

@MaryBoggintonTrotterSmyke are the people you have imaginary arguments with also much, much meaner than anyone you’ve ever actually met? Or super nasty versions of people you know who are actually nice?

Sometimes I dream about imaginary arguments and they get unbelievably mean and out of control.

SortOfLikeAnOctopusOnlyMoreBlocky · 09/05/2023 12:34

Not diagnosed (or asked to be) but this sounds a lot like me. I used to cope just fine, but the constant demands of kids has driven me to the edge. I'm currently trying to learn to drive, and even in a bloody auto it's still so hard to focus on the road without missing things due to massively overthinking everything I see (that usually is not relevant).
Not sure whether to take the plunge and speak to a gp about it, but I can't just coast along happily underachieving like I did prekids.

blackheartsgirl · 09/05/2023 14:11

You’ve described me word for word! I was finally diagnosed at 38.. I am unfortunately unmedicated now as they clash withmy heart and blood pressure meds and as a result I’m struggling now.

ExhaustedPigwidgeon · 09/05/2023 14:18

Radi0Wales · 09/05/2023 10:25

Oh everyone bloody has it. So bored of this now.

Your pointless and ableist contribution isn’t welcome.

blackheartsgirl · 09/05/2023 14:19

Radi0Wales · 09/05/2023 10:25

Oh everyone bloody has it. So bored of this now.

Do you have this yourself? Are you diagnosed? Have you ever felt suicidal or self harmed because you feel so crap, unable to cope, can’t concentrate, a failure at life etc. does it run in your family? Have you ever seen your teenage son harm himself, unable to concentrate, cry because he can’t shut his brain off, have anxiety, struggle with self harm? Have you ever seen your 12 year old dd struggle so much with life she can’t function, daydream, have low self esteem, anxiety and I mean really bad anxiety? No?

well I have and adhd has ripped our family apart and sent us ti the edge.

what a horrible comment

ExhaustedPigwidgeon · 09/05/2023 14:22

I’ve been diagnosed with adhd at 36. I could have written your op especially about the vitamins - they’re right there…just take one. Absolutely impossible to do.

I don’t really know why people have this idea that people who suspect adhd want a label - it’s horrible to live with and I wish every day that I was NT. I am surprised though there’s only been one ableist ignorant post normally adhd threads are a shit show.

currently unmedicated but waiting to start titration

blackheartsgirl · 09/05/2023 14:34

It’s the same crap we had in school 🏫 ant it. Lazy. Unmotivated. If he/she could just apply herself etc etc

my uncle (and my gran come to that) almost certainly had adhd. My Nan kept his school reports and he was born in 1952, every single one said the same thing as above

lazy, erratic, daydreams, excelled only in subject he liked, not reaching his full potential, my gran despaired and my grandad used the cane on him but nothing worked.

he left school and became a bookbinder but even then he was the same, he was chaotic, struggled with deadlines, had a I’ll do it later and never did philosophy. It affected his career, his mental health and finally caused. Indirectly, his death at 58. He was very unhappy, never settled, could never keep a relationship.

im so sick of the ignorance surrounding adhd, boils my blood

blackheartsgirl · 09/05/2023 14:35

Well that’s meant to be isn’t it on the top line lol. No idea where that emoji thing came from!

productiveprocrastinator · 09/05/2023 17:12

Radi0Wales · 09/05/2023 10:25

Oh everyone bloody has it. So bored of this now.

In fairness I though these kinds of comments would come much sooner 😂 this is kind of the issue though, the increased awareness has led a lot of people (especially girls and women who present very differently and therefore historically went under diagnosed) to start reflecting on their issues and relating to a lot of what they see, but the same increased awareness has led to this bandwagon idea which makes people like me incredibly reluctant to mention it to anyone in real life.

Can I ask why are you so irritated at people wondering if their problems could be due to ADHD? I'm always surprised by people being so annoyed by other people just looking for a way to improve their lives.

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Notlostjustexploring · 09/05/2023 18:43

I'm going to have to chip in with a reason for why "everyone seems to have it".

There are about 4 to 5 million women in the UK in their thirties. If you're in your thirties, and female, you probably would have been missed as a child.
ADHD prevalence in the population is somewhere between 2.5-5%.

That's over 100,000 women in the UK with undiagnosed ADHD. And that is only women in their 30's. It probably applies to a greater or lesser extent to everyone over 25, but I'm tired and can't be bothered doing those sums properly but it could be close on to a million people in the UK.

ADHD starts to really, really become a problem when your coping mechanisms and/or structure is taken away or no longer work, for example,
Starting university
Starting a job
Motherhood
Menopause

I don't know about everyone else, but 2020 trapped me in the one area, with small children and removed my support network and eliminated my good exercise habits (team sports), which in my non medical opinion is a fucking car crash for an ADHD dopamine deficient brain.

That's a lot of people all experiencing the same life event simultaneously, a lot of people who are no longer able to cope with their symptoms.

I'm not surprised there is an upsurge in people seeking diagnosis.

ToBeOrNotToBee · 09/05/2023 19:36

Notlostjustexploring · 09/05/2023 18:43

I'm going to have to chip in with a reason for why "everyone seems to have it".

There are about 4 to 5 million women in the UK in their thirties. If you're in your thirties, and female, you probably would have been missed as a child.
ADHD prevalence in the population is somewhere between 2.5-5%.

That's over 100,000 women in the UK with undiagnosed ADHD. And that is only women in their 30's. It probably applies to a greater or lesser extent to everyone over 25, but I'm tired and can't be bothered doing those sums properly but it could be close on to a million people in the UK.

ADHD starts to really, really become a problem when your coping mechanisms and/or structure is taken away or no longer work, for example,
Starting university
Starting a job
Motherhood
Menopause

I don't know about everyone else, but 2020 trapped me in the one area, with small children and removed my support network and eliminated my good exercise habits (team sports), which in my non medical opinion is a fucking car crash for an ADHD dopamine deficient brain.

That's a lot of people all experiencing the same life event simultaneously, a lot of people who are no longer able to cope with their symptoms.

I'm not surprised there is an upsurge in people seeking diagnosis.

Bloody well said!

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