Meet the Other Phone. Only the apps you allow.

Meet the Other Phone.
Only the apps you allow.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Chat

Join the discussion and chat with other Mumsnetters about everyday life, relationships and parenting.

Small(ish) lottery win - Do I keep it since they didn’t pay?

449 replies

swimmingforCB · 05/05/2023 20:02

We’ve had a family syndicate going for 6 months or so now. Few £10 wins etc but nothing big.

For the past 2 weeks, nobody has bothered paying in. They kept saying they’d do it next week, and then next week came and they said they’d do it that week. But everyone forgot again!

I won on Tuesday. Nothing OTT but a sizeable sum

If I keep it to myself, it’ll change my life. If I share it between the 4 of us, it’ll pay for a fancy holiday and that’s it.

What do I do? 😬

OP posts:
MrsElijahMikaelson1 · 05/05/2023 22:40

There was no syndicate. They didn’t pay and you bought yourself a lucky dip you won on 🤷‍♀️

id keep quiet and save it for a while. Has anyone paid/said anything for this weeks? Am assuming no. I’d let this group just drop-it isn’t a syndicate your just family occasionally buying tickets together. They can’t win if they don’t pay.

neilyoungismyhero · 05/05/2023 22:43

Itsagnomelife · 05/05/2023 21:47

Where?
she said it was over 10k, can’t see where she said £20k

It's been said about 3 times now!

PaperwhiteTheGhost · 05/05/2023 22:45

You paid, you played, you won.

Their loss for not paying up.

Enjoy your winnings 🙂

Itsagnomelife · 05/05/2023 22:49

neilyoungismyhero · 05/05/2023 22:43

It's been said about 3 times now!

Yes it has, but not once by the op!

BatildaB · 05/05/2023 22:52

When they got behind on paying in before did they then catch up? If so then the understanding is clearly that the syndicate is running still. Did you accept arrears from them before? Or did you say oh no, I just bought a losing ticket for myself as you hadn’t paid by the date. If you took any arrears before then you’ve been acting on different principles than the ones you’re espousing now.

MrsMikeDrop · 05/05/2023 22:53

Thegoodbadandugly · 05/05/2023 22:36

It's absolutely nothing to do with being dishonest, they did not pay for their tickets so therefore did not play.

Of course it does. Unless they were the rules upfront, which they obviously weren't. It's fair to assume that they were going to pay or it wouldn't be a syndicate. Don't try and spin it any other way.

JandalsAlways · 05/05/2023 22:55

@swimmingforCB did you buy a more expensive ticket as it was for a syndicate and you were assuming that they were going to pay? That's the crux of it right there. Is it safe to assume you put more in because of this, therefore your winnings were also more proportionately?

Thegoodbadandugly · 05/05/2023 22:58

MrsMikeDrop · 05/05/2023 22:53

Of course it does. Unless they were the rules upfront, which they obviously weren't. It's fair to assume that they were going to pay or it wouldn't be a syndicate. Don't try and spin it any other way.

But they have not paid what part are you missing?

JagerbombsUnite · 05/05/2023 23:02

MrsMikeDrop · 05/05/2023 22:53

Of course it does. Unless they were the rules upfront, which they obviously weren't. It's fair to assume that they were going to pay or it wouldn't be a syndicate. Don't try and spin it any other way.

We don't know that. OP said they forgot once before. She didn't say whether they paid up after being reminded or just resumed the next week.
This time they haven't paid for 2 weeks. With bank transfers etc there's no excuse in 2023 to be late with payments.

mouse26 · 05/05/2023 23:03

I'd ask them to pay what they owe, without telling them about the win. If they pay up, split it, if they don't, keep it.

Aweebitpainful · 05/05/2023 23:03

They didn’t pay… I’d say nothing and not make it obvious either!

PToosher · 05/05/2023 23:05

How would it work out if the OP decided not to buy a ticket because no-one paid in and then there was a win on the shared numbers?

Would the OP be expected to stump up the 'lost winnings'?

No. Because no bugger had paid in so they aren't entitled to anything.

Lostoldusername · 05/05/2023 23:06

So you paid for the ticket with your own money? They hadn't put in? So the win wouldn't have even happened if you had also not paid.....
Keep it I say! There would be no win to be shared had you not paid for the ticket out of your own money.

Genie321 · 05/05/2023 23:06

If they didn't pay for that particular draw, they get nothing.

Enjoy.

Katie1992x · 05/05/2023 23:07

HikingforScenery · 05/05/2023 22:30

Interesting religion your H has there.

No to playing the lottery but yes to being selfish and keeping the wins.

Of course you should share it, OP.

I was curious about what religion he is because of this. Would genuinely love to know - not being sarcastic or anything. I spoke to my Muslim husband about this thread, laughing about it. He doesn’t gamble on religious grounds but charity and sharing ones wealth is one of the pillars of Islam which would have made him share. I’m sure many (especially in this thread 😂) would argue this isn’t charity though.

KitKatLove · 05/05/2023 23:07

Treat others as you wish to be treated. Message them all for backdated subs with a deadline and then split the winnings.

babyproblems · 05/05/2023 23:08

Do they know you’ve won??? I would keep v v v v quiet!!! They didn’t play after all. You could invest it and if you make any money then give them a bit. But only if you’re feeling v v nice. You’re not obliged! X

Aweebitpainful · 05/05/2023 23:10

I’m going to amend what I said:

if you played with syndicate money left over from other wins then you should split it.

if you paid out of your own money… then it’s yours as far as I’m concerned. Especially as you’ve said you’ve already asked them several times for their contributions.

Ellie56 · 05/05/2023 23:12

Get this thread pulled and pay off some of your mortgage or similar, so you are not obviously splashing the cash.

Bellagio40 · 05/05/2023 23:13

It’s not a syndicate if you are the only one paying for the ticket. Keep it.

Cornchip · 05/05/2023 23:13

I’d keep it and never tell them you won. I’d quietly slip out of the syndicate in a few weeks time as well. Let the whole thing be forgotten about and die away.

Hold off on any large purchases until you have an excuse to where the money’s came from (bonus at work or something).

It’s a shame to lie but if you tell them the truth at least one person is going to give you a huge amount of shit over not sharing, and the whole thing will end up blowing up.

You’d be better keeping it to yourself entirely.

MammyZ · 05/05/2023 23:16

I wouldn’t even consider not sharing in this situation. But I recognise that’s cos I’m lucky enough to have a family where we all love and respect eachother enough that I know if it were the other way round they’d do the same - i.e. share!

determinedtomakethiswork · 05/05/2023 23:19

Okay, you have had your win and the chance of another win is very very very slim. I would say to them that I wasn't going to carry on doing the lottery because nobody paid. That's all I would say. I would keep absolutely quiet about the winnings. Then, in a little while, a few months, I might treat my sister to something like a food shop or something to wear or her children's uniforms, and just say I had had a bonus at work.

Guavafish1 · 05/05/2023 23:28

Keep

YourUserNameMustBeAtLeast3Characters · 05/05/2023 23:29

There was one that went to court when someone hadn’t paid up for the syndicate. The one who didn’t pay didn’t get any winnings. But this wasn’t between family.

So I would have said you keep it, but it’s family and it’s only a couple of weeks they’ve not paid. So I think I’d split it to avoid the worry of the fall-out I’d they ever found out.