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So we're being evicted AGAIN!

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OnandOnItGoes · 01/05/2023 22:48

3rd rented property in 7 years. Been here for 4 years. Had to leave the last two properties as landlord selling, now we're in the same situation again.

Rent always paid on time and properties always very well looked after so it's not that we're bad tenants, just the never ending game we're stuck in.

We left within the notice period of last 2 properties but can't with this one as rents are £500+ for similar properties and much smaller worse properties with no parking/horrible areas are £200-300 a month more and we simply can't afford it or find one which we are successful for as they seem to only want 'professionals' in high paying jobs.

Council have been no help and have said as both DH and I work, we need to find another rented property. I can only work part time in a low paying admin job due to caring responsibilities as need to be on hand for disabled DC for school drop/pick up and after school as no after school care (teens). We have no family support.

Also worried about being put in temp accommodation as around here it seems to be adapted office blocks with lots of anti social issues. Also as we work I understand we'll have to pay a lot for it!

Section 21 expires on 15th May and I'm aware Landlord will start court process for possession as he's very keen to get us out and get it sold. I assume he'll use the accelerated procedure as he's a professional landlord with lots of properties and is selling most of them I believe.

Does anyone know how long we may have before bailiffs? We're in the South East. I've already looked into storage facilities so we can empty the house but we have no family to stay with so not sure where we'll go from there.

Of course we will continue looking for a property and continue paying rent but any advice on timeline will be helpful if anyone has been through the process recently?

The stress is unbearable and much worse this time due to the current rental market!

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VegetablesFightingToReclaimTheAubergieneEmoji · 06/05/2023 09:25

Parsley1234 · 06/05/2023 08:58

@VegetablesFightingToReclaimTheAubergieneEmoji I can see this but not all landlords are created equal I’ve been in rented same place 12 years same rent my tenants are all over 8/10 years minimum rent increases but it’s not sustainable any more my one mortgage gone from £350 to £1600 it’s not good

Your just proving the point.
I agree with you on a business level.
on a personal level your going to rip the rug from that persons life by selling.
thats why it’s not compatible

Parsley1234 · 06/05/2023 09:37

@VegetablesFightingToReclaimTheAubergieneEmoji wrong again two tenants are buying possibly three my properties at a discount and the fourth I will wait until he leaves I will then buy what I’ve lived in for 12 years for a discount - so much chippiness on this thread. Business is about seeing an opportunity and cracking on some of my endeavours have failed some not it’s swings and roundabouts

VegetablesFightingToReclaimTheAubergieneEmoji · 06/05/2023 10:15

Parsley1234 · 06/05/2023 09:37

@VegetablesFightingToReclaimTheAubergieneEmoji wrong again two tenants are buying possibly three my properties at a discount and the fourth I will wait until he leaves I will then buy what I’ve lived in for 12 years for a discount - so much chippiness on this thread. Business is about seeing an opportunity and cracking on some of my endeavours have failed some not it’s swings and roundabouts

That’s great they are able to do that.

i am not being snippy about this, I do see both sides. I also see both sides are not compatible with each other.

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Parsley1234 · 06/05/2023 10:17

@VegetablesFightingToReclaimTheAubergieneEmoji both sides are completely incompatible but instead of fighting on the right and wrongs which absolves the government from doing the right thing

VegetablesFightingToReclaimTheAubergieneEmoji · 06/05/2023 10:19

Parsley1234 · 06/05/2023 10:17

@VegetablesFightingToReclaimTheAubergieneEmoji both sides are completely incompatible but instead of fighting on the right and wrongs which absolves the government from doing the right thing

I’ve written to my Mp. Written to the prime minister, written to the chancellor. Joined every group going.

even pointed out the elephant in the room of the massive universal credit bill when generation rent “retire”. Who is picking up that massive housing bill? There won’t be property to sell for care home fees either. There’s a massive gap coming

Straggletag · 06/05/2023 10:21

Bloopsie · 06/05/2023 06:50

How many people have 250k,more or less sitting in their back pocket?

So because the wannabe Landlord hasn’t got £250k to fund their purchase, the tenants should pay for it instead?! Yet the tenants have the money to pay for a mortgage but might not have say £25k for the deposit. Do you see the irony at all?

Straggletag · 06/05/2023 10:24

Dibblydoodahdah · 06/05/2023 00:42

@Straggletag housing associations have loans on their property portfolios. So do other corporate landlords. In fact, Councils borrow money for capital projects including housing.

And housing associations are safe and secure and don’t charge astronomical rent.

Straggletag · 06/05/2023 10:25

VegetablesFightingToReclaimTheAubergieneEmoji · 06/05/2023 08:45

And that’s the issue.
it is an incompatible cross over.
homes are where y ou raise your children, where you bring them home from the hospital, where they have parties, where you should feel safe a sanctuary. Not concern that you could be evicted with two months notice. That you can send your kids to the same school, that they get to follow their friends into secondary. Where they can decorate their rooms as stroppy teenagers. Where you can have pets, plant flowers and see them grow, where you can fill the walls with pictures.
Not have every single decision in your life effectively owned by someone else. From what size trampoline you get.
“well this fits in this garden, but might not the next”
to if you can offer long term volunteering to the brownies
”contracts up for renewal in a few months, I’ve a feeling we are moving”

it’s all consuming when you rent as it’s an unstable home yet someone else’s spreadsheet.

Exactly this.

Parsley1234 · 06/05/2023 10:28

@VegetablesFightingToReclaimTheAubergieneEmoji youre right a massive issue coming - what does your mp say ?

VegetablesFightingToReclaimTheAubergieneEmoji · 06/05/2023 10:33

Parsley1234 · 06/05/2023 10:28

@VegetablesFightingToReclaimTheAubergieneEmoji youre right a massive issue coming - what does your mp say ?

“We are providing help for first time buyers”

it’s a hard one isn’t it. Landlords have picked up the slack of a lack of council housing. And they can’t let the housing market crash (they should have in 2008).

I think the answer is more council houses built. Start from that and the rest will hopefully fall in place.

VegetablesFightingToReclaimTheAubergieneEmoji · 06/05/2023 10:39

The government legislating landlords out without a plan to get people houses is an issue. The drip drip of housing isn’t going to reduce house prices but it is causing issues of those renters having nowhere to go and the council waiting lists getting longer.

Parsley1234 · 06/05/2023 10:41

@VegetablesFightingToReclaimTheAubergieneEmoji this - legislation with no back up jeez such bullshit

VegetablesFightingToReclaimTheAubergieneEmoji · 06/05/2023 10:50

Parsley1234 · 06/05/2023 10:41

@VegetablesFightingToReclaimTheAubergieneEmoji this - legislation with no back up jeez such bullshit

Completely ill thought out and poorly executed.
it is like they don’t want to fix it, but pretend they are

Dibblydoodahdah · 06/05/2023 11:02

@Straggletag private rents are not astronomical. They reflect what it costs to purchase a property on the open market. Social housing is subsidised, that’s the difference. Your anger is directed towards the wrong people. You should be lobbying your MP rather than being abusive towards people on here, many of whom are just trying to make their retirements more secure now that final pension salaries are long gone in the private sector.

VegetablesFightingToReclaimTheAubergieneEmoji · 06/05/2023 11:16

Dibblydoodahdah · 06/05/2023 11:02

@Straggletag private rents are not astronomical. They reflect what it costs to purchase a property on the open market. Social housing is subsidised, that’s the difference. Your anger is directed towards the wrong people. You should be lobbying your MP rather than being abusive towards people on here, many of whom are just trying to make their retirements more secure now that final pension salaries are long gone in the private sector.

It’s not an open market. It’s multiple families fighting over one property that means their youngest is in the catchment for the same school as their siblings. Or their eldest can transition with their friends to secondary.
people pay whatever it takes to make those things happen. For instance our rent is 75% of our income

Straggletag · 06/05/2023 11:28

Dibblydoodahdah · 06/05/2023 11:02

@Straggletag private rents are not astronomical. They reflect what it costs to purchase a property on the open market. Social housing is subsidised, that’s the difference. Your anger is directed towards the wrong people. You should be lobbying your MP rather than being abusive towards people on here, many of whom are just trying to make their retirements more secure now that final pension salaries are long gone in the private sector.

Private rents ARE astronomical due to the artificially-inflated-thanks-to-BTL house prices. This is exactly why BTL shouldn’t exist.
And what about the tenant’s retirement and pensions? Because while they’re paying for the Landlord’s mortgage/retirement fund they are also unable to save and unable to buy so they’re getting screwed from both ends. It’s pretty grotesque if you actually think about it.
Not to mention all the housing benefit that goes towards BTL mortgages via the tenants, yet owner occupiers can’t claim it.

Dibblydoodahdah · 06/05/2023 11:28

@VegetablesFightingToReclaimTheAubergieneEmoji you’ve misread my post. I referred to the cost of purchasing on the open market. This hatred for landlords is not making the situation better. It’s lead to less houses to rent. Lobbying your MP is a better use of your time.

VegetablesFightingToReclaimTheAubergieneEmoji · 06/05/2023 11:41

Dibblydoodahdah · 06/05/2023 11:28

@VegetablesFightingToReclaimTheAubergieneEmoji you’ve misread my post. I referred to the cost of purchasing on the open market. This hatred for landlords is not making the situation better. It’s lead to less houses to rent. Lobbying your MP is a better use of your time.

Go back a few posts. I have. I also don’t hate landlords. I just think the business vs home is incompatible. No one is wrong, yet the system is wrong.

Parsley1234 · 06/05/2023 11:58

The whole system is not fit for purpose and yes it’s a ticking time bomb there’s no appetite for change and labour are going to exacerbate a terrible situation again - it’s not a fight to the lowest common denominator

Thesharkradar · 06/05/2023 12:35

Parsley1234 · 06/05/2023 09:37

@VegetablesFightingToReclaimTheAubergieneEmoji wrong again two tenants are buying possibly three my properties at a discount and the fourth I will wait until he leaves I will then buy what I’ve lived in for 12 years for a discount - so much chippiness on this thread. Business is about seeing an opportunity and cracking on some of my endeavours have failed some not it’s swings and roundabouts

If you want to be an entrepreneur and you take a risk but it doesn't work out, you have to take it on the chin you knew what you were getting into and you knew all the risks fair enough.
But your failed business venture shouldn't mean that the housing market is so messed up that no one can afford a place to live!

Parsley1234 · 06/05/2023 12:37

@Thesharkradar whats failed about it ? I’ve been in this for 30 years

Swashbuckled · 06/05/2023 13:02

I have a small number of rental properties. I own them outright. When market rents went sky high, along with the increase in the cost of living, I wondered where other tenants would get the money from as wages weren’t increasing to match. As I own my properties, I’ve been in a position to keep rent exactly the same. I’ve actually kept my rents the same for 10 years.

I allow my tenants to have pets, hang pictures and decorate their homes according to their taste. Some have wallpapered, some painted; it’s up to them. I have told them that I want them to be able to feel it is their “home” and, from my perspective, this increases the likelihood of them becoming long-term tenants. I want long -term tenants. Everybody needs stability.

I regard myself as a socialist. I live in the North and there is a huge lack of rental properties now that landlords are selling up. My tenants won’t ever be in a position to buy. They all work.

Similar houses to mine are 30% higher rent pcm, and more. Mine are Victorian terraces. My financial position is stable. My tenants can make their current rents.

My properties are all a D rating. That is the max I can get them to. If the government do bring in the EPC minimum C rating, I will have to consider selling. There are exemptions, but I don’t know how these will work in practice. I do know that I cannot justify paying out several thousand on each property to prove that it will not change things.

I would say that 90% of rentals in my area are Victorian terraces. I predict many more landlords will sell just because of the stress yet another change in law brings. There will be no available rental properties for my tenants if I do this too.

Parsley1234 · 06/05/2023 13:13

@Swashbuckled this !

justasking111 · 06/05/2023 14:17

The bringing properties to a C grade is going to evict a lot of good tenants whose landlords have been fair

Parsley1234 · 06/05/2023 14:19

@justasking111 yep

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