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Work coach pushing caring jobs - how do you decline

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Makingthebest · 01/05/2023 08:24

I’ve seen this a lot and I was wondering can they remove certain types of jobs and not force you to apply for certain roles if you can’t.

Caring is one job I absolutely would never be able to do. Can I specify that? Do I have to explain all the reasons why I can’t do it and do they accept that?

OP posts:
BetterBee · 01/05/2023 12:49

What about some sort of factory work. You wouldn’t have to be too close to people or speak often.

Toddlerteaplease · 01/05/2023 12:50

BessieSurtees · 01/05/2023 08:45

You need to ask your work coach to tailor your work commitment agreement around your disability.

As an aside, and I’m not meaning you OP, but it really pisses me off this attitude that anyone can do a care role job.

Hands up, who would want their vulnerable family members personal care looked after, often in their own home, by someone who is told they have to do it or be sanctioned but has absolutely no interest / empathy / integrity?

I was about to say the same thing. Caring really isn't for everyone. And forcing someone who is genuinely unsuited to it could cause huge damage.

2bazookas · 01/05/2023 13:09

Jobs you could do :

Cleaning homes and offices ( while employer is elsewhere)
Ironing at home
Gardening.
Personal shopping, fetching and carrying.

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Chasingadvice · 01/05/2023 13:21

Is there ANYTHING you feel able to do op?

Makingthebest · 01/05/2023 13:47

Chasingadvice · 01/05/2023 13:21

Is there ANYTHING you feel able to do op?

Cleaning if I can do it alone and it’s quiet

Maybe something from home if there’s something suitable

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Mabelface · 01/05/2023 15:34

Also, OP, come over to the neurodiverse mumsnetters board and ask the same question as we're more able to "get" how your brain works.

CoozudBoyuPuak · 01/05/2023 16:12

Autism is a huge spectrum and all of us have different things that we are great at as well as different things that are challenging.

Some autistic people have a great affinity with nature and animals. If that is you, you may be able to start up a pet-visiting business or gardening business.

Some autistic people have really sharp attention to detail, if that's you, you may be good at proofreading and editing.

If you enjoy the satisfaction of generating a well laundered and well ironed stack of clothes then you may consider starting a laundry business (don't if you wouldn't enjoy it, obviously!)

If you are great at tidying and organising things but won't panic in the face of chaos that hasn't yet been organised you could do domestic organisation and decluttering work.

handmademitlove · 01/05/2023 16:24

Autism by its nature impacts on both sensory issues and social communication - it is part of the diagnostic criteria. Perhaps have a look at some of the autism support charities for leaflets on autism and work and take them with you when you meet with the coach. You can then either explain (if you can) or give them a written explanation of how it affects you personally. So difficulty talking to people you don't know really well, or sensory issues with touch and personal space. Ask them to refer you for support in managing work with a disability and see how they can help. If you need help accessing this ( I note you don't really use computers much) perhaps ask at your local library for local support groups?

JenniferBooth · 01/05/2023 16:28

@BessieSurtees Have you seen the UC thread in Chat Loads of posters in there shot me down when i pointed out that the RISK of abuse of care home residents is much higher if you force people in to the job that dont want to be there

Which is why i would bet a penny to a pinch of shit is the reason that childcare isnt pushed as much. OK for the elderly to be possible collateral damage though. I

JenniferBooth · 01/05/2023 16:36

@Beseen22 Yes i said the same thing Care work is devalued and seen as the JCs default setting job. IMO care work should be taken OUT of the remit of Job Centres altogether

SistersNotCisters · 01/05/2023 16:45

As someone who works in a care home, despite how understaffed the whole caring business is, I wish job work coaches wouldn't try to force unsuitable people into it. It takes a certain type of person and even if they pass every check, just because they're upstanding citizens, it doesn't mean they would be able to care properly for elderly and disabled people. You know the workers who don't want to be there and it reflects in the substandard care they barely provide.

Mrsjayy · 01/05/2023 16:48

Makingthebest · 01/05/2023 08:24

I’ve seen this a lot and I was wondering can they remove certain types of jobs and not force you to apply for certain roles if you can’t.

Caring is one job I absolutely would never be able to do. Can I specify that? Do I have to explain all the reasons why I can’t do it and do they accept that?

I think a person has to want to be a carer and I don't like how it's pushed on people like that. I'd keep saying you are not suited to caring jobs and it wouldn't be fair on the clients either.

Mrsjayy · 01/05/2023 16:50

Friend of mine has been a care worker for decades and says the job centre sends people that don't want to be there and her company will employ anybody with good references obviously but people don't want to be there.

mrsnec · 01/05/2023 16:50

It's the default settings on the job search apps too. I had an 'instant match' on Indeed for care jobs.

I've got no experience in care, I've never expressed a desire to work in that sector.

It said I matched just because of my postcode!

JenniferBooth · 01/05/2023 16:51

@mrsnec that is ridiculous

Tumbleweed101 · 02/05/2023 06:34

Care work needs really good social skills, empathy, an ability to chat and good physical fitness. You also need to be able to deal with various body fluids, cook and clean. There is a lot of skill needed in the role and to do it well you need to want the best for those you are caring for. There are also unsociable hours that make it hard to fit around child care if you don’t have a partner. It certainly shouldn’t be pushed as a role anyone can do.

I suspect it is because it’s low pay for the work and there are always jobs available so seen as an easy option unless you’ve done it.

Gaffygoose · 23/12/2023 09:27

OP mentioned 'sanctions' for not applying/working in one or two posts earlier in the thread; can anyone elaborate on what was meant by that please?

RaininSummer · 23/12/2023 10:41

Gaffygoose · 23/12/2023 09:27

OP mentioned 'sanctions' for not applying/working in one or two posts earlier in the thread; can anyone elaborate on what was meant by that please?

Gaffy... People can lose benefit which is called a sanction if they do not meet their commitments. Assuming they are fit and able and free to work, they are expected to apply for and take suitable work they can do. It's a luxury to receive benefits while you contemplate what you might like to do as people need to get into work and keep looking for better things if not content with their job.

wizzywig · 23/12/2023 10:55

Exam invigilator?

Gaffygoose · 23/12/2023 11:36

There are so many aspects to UC, it's mind boggling; I dont think I want to make the switch!
Thanks for the info @RaininSummer

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