New UC rules to force both partners to work ??

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I can’t find anything online about this but have heard it’s being changed as previously there had to be a certain number of hours worked but this could be by just one partner but now it’s being changed to make both work even though the total household hours don’t change??

This seems very unfair and taking away choice for some families in difficult circumstances. I just can’t find the official guidance is anyone able to link to it ? Thanks

Yes, this.

I could prob get my twins into 30 hours of private nursery, but finding someone to take them to school of a morning, pick them up and then have them til say 6 isn't so easy

Private nurseries are usually open until 6pm or later.

Who actually wants to put young kids in a Nursery until past 6pm ? Seriously when would you see them ?

@PieInSpace then please dont use disabled people as a tool to beat others with when you dont care about them anyway.

They were also used as emotional blackmail to brow beat others into following Covid rules and restrictions by fucking users who couldnt give a damn the rest of the time. I obviously hit a nerve.

Would they take my year 1 child? Nope nor could I ask other school parents to take her to and from school hence all the time my work availability.

Twins and another older one here.
Even years ago our nursery was open 7am till 7pm. That’s why we moved near them.

How do you feel about Boris or is it only the sheep you care about?

@Babyroobs loads of people have their children in childcare until 6 and then others are quite happy to live off the tax that we pay and demand that we pay more.

Yes this is the responsibility that comes with parenting. Surely you should think of this before. Rather than other people picking up the bill. If people genuinely can't work because of illness, disability or temporarily fallen on hard times, then the system should be there for them. Otherwise work, and pay for yourself and your family.

Who actually wants to put young kids in a Nursery until past 6pm ? Seriously when would you see them ?

Errrr lots of people who don't claim benefits have to? Why should they have to work these long hours to earn enough to pay for their own families and the extortionate tax levels, and see even less of their own children as a result, so that other people who could work can be funded to stay at home? This is exactly the problem, people thinking work should be optional because it might be inconvenient for them or nicer for them not to bother and someone else can pick up the tab.

I am disabled and have two disabled children...

Would they take my year 1 child?

Of course they would. Maternity leave lasts a maximum of 12 months so most working mothers' children go to nursery at 9-12 months.

@HistoryFanatic my youngest started nursery at 9 months when my statutory maternity pay ran out. The nursery I used takes babies from three months although it’s rare for them to have babies that young. All my friends went back to work when our children were between 9 and 12 months old.

Because there aren't hundreds of term time jobs going begging.

Because DH quitting his job to work nights I Tesco so I can work days in Tesco isn't necessarily bringing in more than his full time inflexible job is.
And that's before we double our rent to move area to somewhere that MIGHT have wrap around care, or move to a really rough area in the hope there's more structured support.

So we're now earning less and paying out more. How is that helping you pay to support fewer families?

Of course we should all be doing what we can to support ourselves fully, we should all warm too much to get CB and invest well enough to never need state pension, but lots of us just have to do what we can at the time. Which included me working from 18 through Uni until DS came along when I was 33, and me going back part time / full time as soon as is viable. Which doesn't include living on 2 hours a sleep a night or uprooting my family to move miles from any support in the hope of wrap around child care.

It's a minority that sits on their butt's with no intention of every working

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Be a childminder then and bridge that gap, providing you with work and others with child care. Or move to an area where there's better childcare provision.

Then get a different job. I had to work crappy min wage jobs so that we didn't have to pay out for childcare. I've work in a care home, fast food places, restaurants, been a cleaner and worked in a hospital. All around DHs hours.

Well I have no doubt that getting both people to share responsibility to work is a gentle move towards getting both parents into work for more hours eventually. And that's a good thing.

I just can't help thinking it's sad how things have turned out. Some parents having to both work full time and having to put kids in Nurseries for ten hours a day, house prices risen so high that it has become essential for both parents to do this. I never had to put my kids in Nursery for any length of time twenty years ago as we both worked around each other, I did nights and weekends and evenings for years on end, but it was physically and mentally exhausting and sadly I don't remember much of my kids early years as I was so stressed. There must be a better balance.

It would be very interesting to see how many people would suddenly manage to work full time if they were suddenly no longer being kept by those of us that do.

I meant more how people think the taxpayer can't keep funding benefits. What's the future of welfare then?

It would.

Bring it on.

@PieInSpace Would you want a parent who has had only two hours sleep driving to work while people (including family members of yours) are crossing the road.

I think the biggest shock would be when people realise that excuses no longer mattered. When "I don't want to pick my kids up after 6," was met with a shrug instead of pandering.